Schiano is the only example you have? He is a 500% winning coach. Only reason he gets hyped is because of the one season they got highly ranked nationally and then fell of right away. He isn't doing a good job of rebuilding Rutgers this time around, at a much tougher competetion level too.
Should Frost be fired?
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Yeah I don't care about Frost haters or lovers.
I'm saying that it seems the program recognized a lengthy overhaul for the football program ahead of them and communicated as such when Frost was hired using words like "a long runway". That says to me more than 4 years regardless of what the haters or lovers would like to see.
If he gets fired it will be because he failed to turn it around especially if in fact he is given a long runway as communicated loud and clear.
However, Nebraska has had an AD change. So if the new AD decides to honor what was promised publicly before we'll all see.
I like that frost has admitted he’s a few difference maker players away from getting over the close loss hump. Sounds like he’s going to hit JC and portal to find them. Assume 1 is a QB and 1 is a pass rusher. At least he acknowledges there is a problem rather than being satisfied that we are so close in games.
who was it? identify your sources.
we got iowa and purdue fans saying fire frost
and supposed NU fans rollin saben in here next year
if NU players are out getting plastered, bad mouthing NU coaches to random folks..
we need to have a actual source. not just internet rumor from a person named chuck003
did you get it on video? was it dolemen?
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you silly goof. you can't ask for someone whose first 40% of their tenure was bad before turning it around, then get mad when their overall record isn't that great.
let's look at his overall record after the first 4 years, when he comfortably had his team built:
2005) 7-5
2006) 11-2
2007) 8-5
2008) 8-5
2009) 9-4
2010) 4-8
2011) 9-4
total: 56-33, winning % of 0.629. made a bowl game in 6 of 7 years, went 5-1 in them. in fact, he's only a few games away from becoming the winningest coach of all time at Rutgers.
nope, I presented you with evidence. you being too ignorant to accept it is not my problem.
is he Nick Saban (another guy who failed in the NFL lol)? no, but don't move the goalposts just cuz you're embarrassed. nobody who unironically says "fail" feels confident in what they just said, and it makes it hard to discern whether you're 13 or 73.
just call it how it is, there is no amount of evidence that will sway you, I'm fine with disagreeing. there are a plethora of coaches that struggled in their first 5 years of taking over a dumpster fire (I'm not going to pretend that finishing 6-6 is worlds different from 5-7, that's your fantasy land) then got things together to have success. I'm sure it took guys like Mark Mangino and Mark Stoops a good while. took Brian Kelly 6 years to start having the success Notre Dame expected, he then proceeded to go 4-8 the following year.
fell off right away? after his 11 win season, he had 4 seasons of 8+ wins and went 4-0 in bowl games. lol aren't you the guy who gets hot and bothered by Matt Campbell's 7 win seasons?
your opinion is too fickle to be taken seriously, so we can revisit this at a later time.
if I were responding to someone who didn't flip-flop on a near daily basis, I would point out that Schiano had more wins in a shortened COVID season with an injured QB room than his predecessor did in his last 2 seasons.
if you were really expecting them to beat Michigan (almost did), Michigan State, and Ohio State in year 2 of a rebuild at a talent disadvantaged program like Rutgers, I'm afraid you're putting yourself in the unfortunate position of arguing from a place of ignorance.
He's not a flip-flopper ... though it is understandable that literally everyone on the board thinks he is. He doesn't actually have any beliefs. He does have a talent though. He walks into a room and reads the room and like a well-schooled attention-***** he creates a thread that taps into the Zeitgeist of the moment. That moment will fade quickly but it doesn't matter, he'll get replies. 33% of those from people who take him seriously ... 33% from people who say they hate him but find a way to post in all his threads anyway (lol) ... and then 33% from himself.
It's a drug ... he's both a pusher, and an addict.