Should Frost be fired?
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That's probably the most significant factor. Peterson was guessing he could find a coach. That was cringe-worthy. Eichorsts search and criteria were truly bizarre. Moos had a layup.
I got a feeling Trev has this well in hand.
If he loses to Purdue, yes, and immediately after the OSU loss. If he beats Purdue, you give him a chance to go bowling by beating BOTH Wisconsin and Iowa. (He's never beaten either.)
But what if this isn’t actually anonymous?? What if Frost finds out I voted no and he comes to my house and punches me in the face?!?!
Why do so many think there is always an underground search for a replacement coach in waiting? I can't think of any faster way to erode trust in an athletic department to act like you are helping your current coach be successful while at the same time doing underground interviews for their replacement. I call baloney on this. I am sure someone will say, well, they just called to ask the what if. No way, can't see it, totally unprofessional and makes liars out of everyone.
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That kind of activity only occurs in hotel basements. Stay out of there and your're good.
This is a frustrating situation. You see the improvement and the potential, then you watch the mental implosions every week. The defense has turned the corner and is performing. The offense is a train wreck with the current players. He is putting all his stock in the hands of a QB who has not won more than 4 games in a season for various reasons. AM is individually talented but is not a winning QB and probably never will be. If Frost doesn't make a move to improve the offense, he tenure will have a short shelf life.
Depends on the situation. If firing the current HC is all but certain, like it was for Riley halfway through 2017, then yes they do underground interviews. Moos did so with Frost in Philadelphia after the UCF Temple game.
If Alberts is still not certain what to do with Frost, then it could be damaging to the program to put out feelers. Even so, I still could see him reaching out to people with the caveat, “Look, I don’t know what I’m going to do with Frost. If he turns it around in these final four games I’ll likely keep him. But if it comes to it, would you be interested?”
Wow, Nebraska is no longer a Blue Blood with our strong commitment to losing. What a joke. At some point Minnesota stopped being a Blue Blood in the 60s.
To be fair, that is the same logic Pederson used when firing Solich. I think there are a few of us whom think that simply firing a losing coach isn't necessarily the answer.
As Lincoln100 said, if Trev has a replacement in mind, then I'm guessing more of us would be on board.
How do you get so outraged at what Benning is guessing? This in no way has any bearing on if Frost is hear next year.
At least wait until a decision is made to lose your ****.
It's like you want to be mad now just in case. Pre-emptive anger.
If he finishes 3-9 or 4-8, yes. We can’t keep missing bowl games and postseason games. Even if they go 5-7, I’ve seen just about enough. It’s unacceptable for Nebraska football not to win 6 games for 5 years straight.
But just knowing our luck, the bat-s*** craziest thing, though, is that this team (thanks to our defense) is still somehow capable of beating Purdue and Iowa – both who play us at home.
If Frost finishes 5-7, would NU make a bowl game with academic qualifications? That would be a blind toss-up for Trev because Frost has verbalized his passion to turn around NU. And that scenario probably leans in Frost’s favor.
But just knowing our luck, the bat-s*** craziest thing, though, is that this team (thanks to our defense) is still somehow capable of beating Purdue and Iowa – both who play us at home.
If Frost finishes 5-7, would NU make a bowl game with academic qualifications? That would be a blind toss-up for Trev because Frost has verbalized his passion to turn around NU. And that scenario probably leans in Frost’s favor.
If you fire a coach who wins 9 or 10 games a year, you better have your guy. But firing a loser head coach where just about any realistic option would be an upgrade, I'm not as picky about having a successor lined up.
Any outsider is praying we keep Frost. We are a sleeping giant. We need a coach to wake the sleeping giant.
I believe Pederson had a good replacement lined up who agreed with a handshake to coach Nebraska. Then the Dolphins dumped a bag of cash on him and he left Pedy in the lurch.
As I've mentioned here before, in the business world sometimes you have to let people go who don't "get it". I've had to move on from several people who were smart, punctual, polite, worked hard, said the right things, but for whatever reason just didn't "get it" or "fit". In every case like that I remember, those people went on to be successful in another department or company. Those hard decisions to move on were usually made after a couple years, not four.
So if are on the other end, the coach being contacted, you are OK with that? It's like saying, hey, not sure how this all going to work out, I may have to fire Frost, but don't let this get out we had this conversation and furthermore,.you can trust me. Right.
It's like the guy who goes out on his wife and the marries the gal and then later she wonders why she can't trust him.
I agree, in education they gave the teachers three years but you generally knew in two. I have had to do the same. But the key is you did everything to help the person fix things. That conversation is between Trev and Frost, Trev has laid it out for Scott, at least I hope he has. I also wonder if the last thing Trev wants to do as his first major decision is fire a native son who won a NC for the same state.
I've been there. I bet one or two either thanked you outright in hindsight or are still on great terms.
Keeping someone in a position to fail is torture to them too. They may not admit it but you're making them miserable in the end too.
Yes I’d be totally fine with that as the prospective coach. It’s business, no hard feelings.
Not a good analogy, either. Nobody’s making a lifetime commitment when hiring a coach. It’s the expectation that you’re to be replaced if you do a bad job, potentially before your contract expires.
The prospective coach is not going to look at it and worry, “Well if Alberts is willing to cheat on Frost with me, would he cheat on me with the next fling??” Because the answer is obviously yes, and there’s nothing wrong with that.
How so? I don't think anyone is advocating for Trev to hire whomever. I think the point was that Frost is doing so bad that Trev COULD hire anyone and it would be an improvement.
We have a lot of pieces in the program, from facilities, to athlete support, to being in a weak division that make it so if we get the right hire we better dust off the trophy case because look out baby, Big Red is on the move.
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It is called a "contract." And if you suck at your job for too long, you best expect your boss is looking to replace you.
Trust me, I understand contract law, especially for education, I taught it at the university level.
The entire situation is about trust. I married for life, the average is 8 years so....
man I just don't want to go through another coaching change. I feel like I age 5 years every time it happens.
I hear that brother.
But we have phenomenal facilities, great fan support, great support for the athletes. We are in a weak division. We are a sleeping giant.
We are a good hire away from going straight to the top. It can be done and can be done fast.
Believe baby
People on this forum want him fired. General fans think he gets more time. In all honesty it doesn’t make sense to fire him. The next coach will not be any better, and it starts a whole new 5 year plan.
LSU did what you are bitching and moaning about and will have no issue making a new hire.
Fans of other Big Ten West teams = give Frost a lifetime contract. Easy annual win.