The comparison only fails to people who don't correctly view the damage Riley did.
Should Frost be fired?
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Blaming current results on a previous staff is nothing but loser and excuse-making talk for a person failing to produce the results to remain employed in a results-driven profession.
Your inability to recognize improvement and the work that had to get done to get to this position now says a lot.
Improvement only matters if it changes in the wins and loss column. Fordham, Buffalo and a terrible Northwestern team are his only wins. Not a single winning record against the Big Ten West after this season is completed.
Scott Frost is simply a failed head coach. Not head coach material. It is what it is.
People like you care more about wanting Frost as the head coach than winning games. Some would call it the Scott Frost Cult.
Whatever improvements you see, should not have taken 4 years and have not produced wins.
Pointing out Kentucky is also a poor excuse. We are a blue blood program, we are in a very weak division.
It would take a solid coach 2 years or less to do what Frost hasn't done in 4 years.
We are now on the verge of being out recruited by the teams we heavily out recruited but couldn't beat. What do people think is going to happen?
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Only a simpleton would try to compare Kentucky football to Nebraska's program in a lame attempt to justify Frost's miserable record.
Stoops' Kentucky teams finished 7th. 6th, 4th, and 2nd in the SEC East during his first 4 years - clear progress.
Frost's Nebraska teams have finished 5th, 5th, 5th, currently 7th in the B10 West. In his defense, there is an outside chance he can still finish 5th in Year4.
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That's false. I've generally found the opposite where the fans I've met in real life are more impatient than people on this board.
He's goofier than a pet coon. Two weeks ago he thought Frost was the savior. A month ago he had a different poll on who we should hire. LOL
Notice how the Frost Cultists were missing for a few days after Minnesota. They came back today. They will go back in hiding after Purdue and once Frost is fired they will try and bash the new hire. Then when the new hire has early success they will pretend they were all in on wanting Frost fired too.
I fully agree with your fine post sir. The only other extremely thing missing imo is our OLine. Oh boy, we have a long, long ways to go.
Absolutely. The Oline he had to start with at NU was horrible beyond belief. It's now somewhat better but still marginal at best. I'm not an expert for knowing how long it currently usually takes to change a pathetic Oline to a very good one. Again, I just don't know.
But our Oline "and" special team are just killing us. I hope HCSF gets one more year. I'd sure love to see him bring back NU. But for sure, year 5 needs to come around.
make him resign, or flat out fire him for cause.. he does not pass go, he does not collect 20 million dollars.
I have no doubt you guys can find a better coach than Frost. You could throw a rock randomly and you’ll hit a better coach than Frost. Why can Oklahoma have an elite coach and program but not Nebraska? Fire his *** and move on from something that is clearly not working.
Not this year. I don't need to be anonymous. **** I'm fine with keeping him at the end of the season and if he announces no staff changes then you fire his ***. He gets one last shot with me at this point to grow the **** up and stop hiding behind words.
If/when he is fired and then goes on to succeed somewhere else...are you ready for the migrane inducing posts that will be on this board?
It's not going to be hard to find a better head coach than Scott Frost since Frost is statistically the worst head coach at the P5 level. Finding a coach that can fix the football program to become a conference title contending program, that is a different topic.
Nobody will hire him as a head coach. Some lower level school might, but nobody that people watch on TV.
I suspect Frost's ego is too big for him to attend the Saban rehab school for fired coaches.
His offensive design works great with the right talent. His downside is he won't freaking adjust it to fit the players he has. If you think his career is done if he is fired here, I think you're being too emotional.
I bet he gets a coordinator gig somewhere and learns from a decent HC. Just a feeling
This.
If anyone has a personal problem with Frost or doesn't think he is trying his best, they're crazy. The years he put in and what he accomplished as a player should have our gratitude.
It's just time. He isn't getting it done and isn't showing anything that makes me believe he will.
I have no idea right now if Frost should be fired. His results are abysmal and if he finishes poorly then probably, yes, he should be fired. However, if ends the year by beating Purdue, Wisconsin, and Iowa and makes a bowl game I think he should be retained.
I mean, that was the expectation this year.
Wisconsin seems more winnable.
It's just not looking good at all.
That might be a bridge too far given what we've seen over the last 4 years.
It seems that Frost coaches and the team plays to the level of their competition. They'll be hard pressed to to go .500 over next 4 games.
So many opportunities wasted. It's really just a shame.
I agree. It is not looking good. If we can't beat Illinois and Minnesota it is doubtful we can beat anyone remaining on our schedule. But we have also shown "flashes" of being good. Believe it or not I think the key to the rest of our season is not our offense. We know it is an up and down unit that struggles to score in the red zone. and to run the ball consistently with anyone not named Martinez. And that is how it will most likely continue. And so where I sit the key is our defense has to play with their hair on fire and carry the load. The thing that most disappointed and shocked me was Minnesota giving our defense a clinic in the first half. We cannot have that kind of crap. Ohio State will kill us. Purdue is better than most think but it is at home after a week off. If our defense plays well against Purdue then we have a 50/50 shot at winning. If we beat Purdue and therefore still have a shot at six wins I think there might still be some motivational gas in the tank for Wisky and Iowa. But Wisky is at Camp Randall. Ugh. And they have owned us. Probable loss. Iowa? **** who knows? But Frost better get those six wins somehow or his seat will be super hot.
If he comes back next year after all or 4 win season, I just can't imagine any fan interest. Who the fck would want to watch the same undisciplined team with the same crap offense and a worse defense next year? Granted, I'm assuming the defense gets worse next year after the super seniors leave, but that doesn't seem like an unreasonable assumption at this point.
Not to mention you would probably lose two recruiting classes instead of only one this year.
My argument has always been, a 3 win team this year SHOULD get 6 next year. If he can't to a bowl this year. Don't waste the easy year on him. Bring in someone and put them in a position to succeed.
You give Frost another year, after not going to a bowl, with the recruiting class tanking...and the transfer portal looming ever larger...you just can't do that.
You give Frost another year, after not going to a bowl, with the recruiting class tanking...and the transfer portal looming ever larger...you just can't do that.
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well your argument is pretty dumb considering last year was a shortened anomaly and this year we have one of the most difficult schedules in all of college football. Clemson would have 3 wins at best with our schedule. Iowa State would maybe have 2.
if anything, it'd be a waste of an easy year to blow the entire thing up. if Frost still can't put together a good season with next years schedule, then we'd know for sure he's not the guy.
if we fired him then proceeded to get boatraced by Oklahoma and Michigan y'all would be playing "coulda, woulda, shoulda" with Frost. that's an "I told you so" that I wouldn't relish in.
Whatever you say champ. The writing is on the wall and I don't think those that see it are in the minority.
So do your worst and throw those tantrums but it won't change the dogshit that has happened in the field this year.