Should Frost be fired?
- Thread starter Mystery Big Red Man
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When he changes a game plan and risks further injury to his starting QB thinking he has an extra week to rest. He just showed his care for his players and his lack of confidence and QB coaching for his 2nd string players. Fire him today and I wouldn't care. I was on the line of keeping him another year if he made staff changes. But he is willing to risk player safety for a win and his loser *** cant even do that.
"myself and many others are already crying about it on message boards"
lol
this poll result is not much different than what this thread is showing.....goes to show the "oh Frost please return for a another year of suck" is the minority.
What are we blowing up? The excellently little amount of discipline and attention to detail the coaches instilled in the players? The amazing 101st ranked scoring offense we had last year? The spectacular special teams display we see each week? The incredible ways we find to lose games each season? Yeah I'm real scared of blowing that up.
5 plays away from being undefeated with 3 wins over top 10 teams.
Nebraska is better than they were last year, we'll have to agree to disagree if you cant see that.
It's more than 5 plays. They didn't lose with 00:01 on 5 last second plays.
They started the season with a must win game against IL to make a bowl game. They failed. Then they played like **** against Fordham at the start of that game. Then they took care of business against Buffalo and then started to lose close games. Northwestern was a complete *** kicking. Hope was high for MI game since stats showed it could be a win. Yet another lose. Then they showed up to MN unprepared, flat, unmotivated, etc.
Frost has lost the team now. There are guys on defense pushing for an NFL career so I don't expect that side of the ball to regress that much but that first half against MN was some really bad defensive play as a unit.
Frost failed to build on the slight progress that we were seeing.
well 3 of those games they would've won if they would've scored a TD on the last play so we can say 3 plays away from 6-2, cuz i think we'd all take that right now.
don't take this the wrong way, but i notice you change your mind a lot and switch convictions in a knee-jerk manner so we should probably let the season play out.
if he won against Wisconsin and Iowa would you feel better? i certainly would.
Just out of curiosity, what gives you the idea Frost and company will ever start winning those close games and not finding a way to lose at the end? Seems painfully obvious that he lacks the coaching ability and his teams lack the mental toughness to win close games.
What more evidence could someone need to see that he is just not a good coach?
because i dont think its his coaching ability that caused the blocker to miss the OU defender who blocked the PAT, or the punter to kick it the wrong way against MSU, or Martinez to fumble the ball after his forward progress had been stopped against Michigan, or Yant to clumsily trip over himself at the goal line.
in previous years, i absolutely agree that the teams looked weak. i would've been okay with throwing in the towel after we squeaked by Rutgers to end last season, but the team looks bigger, faster and stronger this year. replace the OL coach and hire a STC and i think this team wins a lot of games next year.
and frankly, the "he lost by a couple points to great teams this year, so let's lump that in with getting blown out by those teams in previous years" line is a lazy way to think.
Fair enough. I think it's equally lazy to not consider that the mishaps you mentioned above are direct results of bad practice habits and obvious lack of attention to detail on the part both the staff and the players.
If mistakes now and then happened, ok. Still take responsibility and you can wink at the camera and the fans will understand. If we are making crazy mistakes years 1-4. I don't care if the type of mistakes have changed at all... don't you dare throw players under the bus...you eat that **** sandwich. You can't expect me to believe we only recruit mistake probe players.
A lot of the mistakes we have continually seen are drive killing mistakes that just show up as penalty yards. Or a bad read/judgment call for a drive killing play.
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i don't even disagree, but no team is immune to fumbles and Nebraska certainly isnt near the top. in fact, they've shown a lot of progress there.
even penalties, they're doing better than Oklahoma, Alabama, and Ohio State.
i can forgive flukey plays more than i can forgive getting blown out again.
I definitely agree on not wanting to get blown out again.
And I agree about the flukey plays. The concerning part is that they are not only finding ways to lose against the good teams. They find ways to lose even against mediocre or bad teams. This year's Illinois and Minnesota squads are just not good teams. Sure, there were flukes plays in both losses, but there was also horrendous play calling and an odd lack of focus in those two must-win games. And at this point, AM being careless with the ball is no longer a fluke, it is a regularity.
Too many flukey plays to blame on players. We can't say we are just unlucky and recruit mistake probe players. The team may not lead the nation in penalties but if they kept track of penalties that killed drives or bad plays that killed drives or started us in a horrible position, we'd be near the top.
Sadly we make our penalties and bad plays count.
After talking to a current starter on the defense at Tanners Bar and Grill tonight (he was drunk), However, from the crap he told me about Frost not wanting this job and having a God complex (amongst other things), I would say fire his loser *** right now. This is from a current player. Frost apparently isn't putting in the work and does not take his coaching duties seriously. Didn't take a current player to validate what I have suspected all along. Get rid of this schmuck. I was kind of on the fence about giving him another year, but that changed tonight.
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Trev is aware of all of this but is walking a tight rope with public opinion.
Frost has been dropping the "Do you know who I am?" card since 96 and it's been getting worse.
NO. SF needs NO MORE TIME>
I can name off plenty of coaches that took over MUCH MUCH worse situations, and did not have the cache of a Nebraska name behind them to help them recruit, and they all showed success prior or by year 4.
Alvarez at wisky took over a complete dumpster fire had 10 wins by year 4
Mccartney at CU dumpster fire and went 7-4 by year 4
Snyder at Kstate biggest dumpster fire of them all 7-4 by year 3
Frank Beamer at Va Tech he took over a program on NCAA SANCTIONS compliments of Vince Dooley and had 33 fewer scholarships he could give out over 3 years, and had winning records in year 3 and 4.
So NO, SF didnt inherit anywhere close to a bad situation as ANY of the above coaches and they were able to find success sooner.
Show Frost the door, period.
Snyder
Beamer
Mccartney
Alvarez
all took over bigger and much worse dumpster fires than Frost Did and NONE of them had the name or history behind them to help with recruiting like NU does, or the resources.
All of them had a winning record by years 3 or 4.
Case closed.
We can even throw in the Current Indiana coach who inherited a bigger dumpster fire culture and talent wise and indiana, and had them winning 8 games by year 3 and 7 last year...
So again, NO.
Actually your argument is the really dumb one historically speaking.
NO coach taking over a P5 program for the first time in the last 50 years, had losing records in their first 4 seasons and magically became a good coach.
They were all bad
Some were even really bad.
None of them have even a .500 record as coaches for their careers.
Is that what you want for Nebraska? LOL
Cuz historically speaking that is what NU would be getting?
No?
Well thanks for playing.
I don't know why the fans on this Board forget that when Frost was hired the Athletic Director(Representative of the University overseeing ALL sports at NU) told the whole world through the mic wide eyed at the cameras that Frost was going to get a looong runway to turn the program into a winning one. That is more than a 4 year contract for some of you who might be confused.
Someone at the university thought that Nebraska was churning coaches too much and the situation then was REALLY bad.
IF you look at Rileys last whole team and look at this whole team this year and say there's no improvement then you're blind.
Nebraska could just as easily be undefeated this year as being where they are now. There isn't a non one score loss on the schedule thus far.
And the team hasn't quit.
Someone at the university thought that Nebraska was churning coaches too much and the situation then was REALLY bad.
IF you look at Rileys last whole team and look at this whole team this year and say there's no improvement then you're blind.
Nebraska could just as easily be undefeated this year as being where they are now. There isn't a non one score loss on the schedule thus far.
And the team hasn't quit.
Pretty obvious he isn't putting in the work. Hell, all you have to do is look at the current recruiting class - zero effort to improve it.
I like frost Frost should stay .
I just hope when he finally gets an undefeated season he doesn’t bolt somewhere else
I'll leave the decision on whether to retain or fire Frost up to Alberts. He gets paid big bucks to make that decision.
I'm fine either way but I do dread starting all over with a new HC, yet again.
I'm fine either way but I do dread starting all over with a new HC, yet again.
No. They didn't quit. They forged ahead after a highly, emotionally charged, and hyped up game ending in a gut punching loss. And had a few chances to win to boot.
That goal line play for instance was too cute in my opinion. Wildcat that ball to a TE or QB keeper or put in a lead blocker or something and pound it in if they don't trust their RB.
SF sometimes make a simple addition problem into a rocket launch trajectory equation. But this team is close.
They quite. You can try and make it sound like they didn't but they did. Yes, they are close alright. Close to losing more close games like usual.
Would the ad be in contact directly with the coach or his agent. I'm guessing agent. I'm guessing there's a "code" amongst ad's not to have direct contact with their coaches without their approval
Agent. Then when it is time to interview/communicate directly to the coach it is common that a request is put in through the AD but it isn't required.
If Frost gets fired he has no one to blame but himself. He has been given enough rope and managed to tie a noose around his neck.
"Turning it around" never meant 6 wins. It slowly changed to something less as it became clear to Frost Fans that there was something rotten in the State of Denmark.
We all thought we would at least be winning 6 games in year 4 even with counting the shorten Covid season..
definitely agree he has nobody to blame but himself for organizing this staff that caught lighting in bottle in 2017..
So u consider a guy with a 74-77 career college record as a coach a really good to great coach? Lolol
To add he also had another two losing seasons in the NFL on top of that?
Mmmm I don't know, seems to me NU would be looking for a better quality coach then a sub .500 one at every level he has coached..
So that's a fail, now show me some more examples of really good coaches that started off w 4 losing seasosin at th p5 lvl..
I will wait patiently.