Please email Pat

[Knight Shift]

what is the guarantee its used to pay for a buyout....

if Ash isnt getting fired anytime soon then why in the hell should anyone donate or buy season tickets for this crap and charade.

I have no idea. How about this. Money is put in a trust fund for RU athletics, and the trustee only releases the funds after RU hires a new football coach? That would seem to work. Just a thought off the top of my head.
I'm not trying to start fights with you or other posters. But a bunch of meaningless angry e-mails are not going to get the job done. That's why I keep posting "pony up." None of us on this board (unless I am mistaken) are at a donor level that matters. Collectively? Sure. But someone needs to mobilize the board. We tried this under Flood, and it failed. Maybe we are at a higher condition critical than Flood. I would throw some money in the hat for a buyout under the right conditions.

 

[bac2therac]

Because they are working on Saturday afternoon and Sunday to answer random angry e-mails from disgruntled fans? Doubtful.
Any P5 AD will listen to you if you are a donor or potential large donor with a seven or eight figure donation to help him solve the problem.

actuallly the two previous ADs did respond quickly

 

[Knight Shift]

lmao..be honest with yourself...Penn State, Michigan, Ohio State....good luck. Its okay to be honest

OK. I will bite.
We can beat one of those once every several years, and have a trajectory like Northwestern. In reality, a "successful" head coach for Rutgers would have RU at 6-6 and 7-5 half the time over a 10 year period, and 8-4 and 9-3 every 2 or 3 years or so, and maybe a 10-2 season once or twice every 10 years.

 

[bac2therac]

maybe...but not with the this president and BOG....and the politics of this state...not to mention we are pissing away a generation of potential donors

 

[Knight Shift]

actuallly the two previous ADs did respond quickly

Maybe that's why they were not successful and did not do much with fund raising. Misplaced priorities. This is not meant to be snarky. But if the AD is spending his/her time responding to rank and file fans on a fall Saturday and not keeping the big donors happy and courting new big donors, they are doing something wrong. The e-mail should be answered within a week, but not a high priority task that it has to be responded to immediately.
Do you disagree?

 

[Knight Shift]

maybe...but not with the this president and BOG....and the politics of this state...not to mention we are pissing away a generation of potential donors

On this, I agree with a lot, but not all of what you said.
If that's your position, then why bother e-mailing Hobbs and caring about it at all. It's futile. We are eternally Sisyphus--pushing the rock up the hill, only forced to watch it roll back down. Maybe that's what the statement "revolutionary for 250 years" referred to.

 

[bac2therac]

well I am tired of being dupe...alot of other long time season ticket holders are ready to throw in the towel...not so sure its a threat this time..its truly that bad.

 

[RU#1fan]

what is the guarantee its used to pay for a buyout....

if Ash isnt getting fired anytime soon then why in the hell should anyone donate or buy season tickets for this crap and charade.

I emailed my RU Ticket Rep last night that told him that I am done.
20 consecutive years as a Season ticketholder and donor to RU football has come to end.
Hobbs obviously isn’t doing anything with Ash and next year will actually be worse than this year.

 

[seels2662]

Umm, no. Really bad idea. Sound cult-like, like that team in the state to the West of us. Never want to emulate their scumbag status.

I sorta agree with you, but understand we don't get out of this until he is gone. If we do nothing he will be here for the next 10 years, and the football team will have a 20-100 record during that time.

 

[GoodOl'Rutgers]

2019.. the 150th Anniversary of College Football is just next year. And we could not be any lower.

So, if we hire someone like GS we can have a struggling team with a hope for the future story to sell... or we have this coach and his struggling team next year and invite all the remarks about "maybe Rutgers should still be playing Princeton.." etc.

Big FAIL by Barchi, Hobbs and Ash.

 

[Ridge 22]

That's just an awful statement and untrue. No one wanted us to stay in the AAC. And to not want to be in the B1G no matter how bad things are right now in football is just plain ignorance.

The point is that you can't accept the invitation to the B1G and reap the rewards of what it has to offer while also contributing nothing towards fielding a competitive program. It's not fair to our fans and the rest of the B1G. If this is the level of support our administration intended to provide, then we should have stayed in the AAC where that level of support would have been appropriate. We are literally playing in a new sandbox that is out of our league right now. Too late to go back now, but this is an utter embarrassment.

 

[RU_DIO]

Because they are working on Saturday afternoon and Sunday to answer random angry e-mails from disgruntled fans? Doubtful.
Any P5 AD will listen to you if you are a donor or potential large donor with a seven or eight figure donation to help him solve the problem.

I answered the guys question if they responded, which they didn't yet. Though it doesn't excuse them for not answering my email from 2 weeks ago.
.

 

[read option]

They were sent to me.

By who?

 

[RU4Real]

By who?

None of your business.

I'm not here to answer stupid questions. Those are the numbers. If you don't want to believe it, then good for you.

 

[RU_DIO]

I became a die hard Rutgers fan in the 80's. I've seen this **** show too many times over the years. I will give up this time if we don't fix this problem immediately by hiring a coach who has the ability to turn us into winners.

 

[JoeRU0304]

The point is that you can't accept the invitation to the B1G and reap the rewards of what it has to offer while also contributing nothing towards fielding a competitive program. It's not fair to our fans and the rest of the B1G. If this is the level of support our administration intended to provide, then we should have stayed in the AAC where that level of support would have been appropriate. We are literally playing in a new sandbox that is out of our league right now. Too late to go back now, but this is an utter embarrassment.

Right now we’re basically using the Temple 90’s model for football- cash Big East checks while making minimal efforts to improve the program. We all saw how well that turned out for TU so it’s exciting to see our administration following such a successful blueprint.


Joe P.

 

[read option]

If it is Schiano's choice, it is a clear sign his ego dwarfs his resume, and he should not be hired. Before all the Schiano "towel boys" pile on me, think about that if that is his demand. While it is true that football drives the athletics bus, as soon as it drives the University bus, I (and I surmise many other fans and donors), I am out.

Schiano has earned the right based on his success as the HC of RU football to make whatever decision is best for him to come back or not, including how he feels about the University president. Greg isn’t gonna come back to fight an uphill battle with school administration when he knows what it will take to rebuild this program, especially against the competition in the B1G.

You are 1000% wrong yet again in blaming everyone except those doing the job today which are failing miserably. You must live a life where you have excuses for everything. Pathetic.

 

[NotInRHouse_anon]

You and Plum and other people continuing to pile on still seem to be posting quite a lot. People love to complain. This is not an attack, it is an observation. More people come out of the woodwork after a huge loss or a bad season than when RU is winning. People in NJ particularly love to watch and comment on a train wreck.

Baloney, I was a senior in 2006 and there was so much excitement on campus and throughout NJ, I had relatives from other states telling me how they were following the team.

Yes people complain, but you know what, we have the right to be angry, we all deserve way, way better than what we are getting right now.

 

[read option]

None of your business.

I'm not here to answer stupid questions. Those are the numbers. If you don't want to believe it, then good for you.

Calm down, big guy. To throw those exact numbers out there I figured you’d have no problem validating your source.

But since you’re so defensive about it, no I don’t believe your numbers now.

 

[read option]

We tried a few years ago with Elmer and it almost worked. We have no other choice to make it work at this point. Ash must be fired or this program will not only be a laughingstock on the field but in stadium attendance.

Patrick got us into this mess, he needs to get us out or he can go too along with Barchi and all the other fools at the BOG who continue to scam us with this charade.

I’d like to write a purely factual email which states from back to the Anderson days when we decided to go “big time”, revenue, attendance, recruiting stats, etc. so that it paints a picture of how good or bad things really are right now.

My point is that if the facts support reality then no opinion is needed. And any reasonable person can’t deny the facts.

Problem is getting that data is almost impossible. If someone has it I’d love to see it.

 

[Knight Shift]

Schiano has earned the right based on his success as the HC of RU football to make whatever decision is best for him to come back or not, including how he feels about the University president. Greg isn’t gonna come back to fight an uphill battle with school administration when he knows what it will take to rebuild this program, especially against the competition in the B1G.

You are 1000% wrong yet again in blaming everyone except those doing the job today which are failing miserably. You must live a life where you have excuses for everything. Pathetic.

I see you live in a world where anger obscures reality. Here is the reality part. Barchi is the President of Rutgers University. He is in charge. He is the head honcho. When anyone goes to work for an organization, they have a boss to answer to. In a University, it is the President and the BOG. When the President and the BOG are aligned, they get their way.

I said it already, and I will say it again. Academics drives the bus, as it should. Athletics is secondary, but still important.

I blamed nobody in my post, but in your constant need to lash out and punish anyone and everyone, you attack me again.

I agree with the first part of your post. If Schiano can't have it his way, he is perfectly free to pass on choosing to come back to Rutgers. The football coach should not dictate how the President and BOG will run the University, including athletics. Your post is rather vague too. What uphill battle would Greg be fighting? If Greg came back, he would negotiate his salary, his assistant coaching pool salary, and a list of items that he considered must haves to succeed with his plan. As with any other hire, there would be negotiations, and a decision made on one or both sides to proceed based on the terms. Has this been done? Who knows? The post I responded too made it seem like Greg categorically rejected the idea of coming back to Rutgers while Barchi is President. Doing that without testing the waters or negotiating terms seems preemptively stubborn and a bit foolish.

Have a nice Sunday, my friend. Make note that I did not retaliate with any insults or name-calling. You should try that some time, my angry friend. Peace and love.

 

[Knight Shift]

Calm down, big guy. To throw those exact numbers out there I figured you’d have no problem validating your source.

But since you’re so defensive about it, no I don’t believe your numbers now.

Your posts have the same problem. If you don't like the response, you dismiss the poster's assertions, or you resort to name-calling. Why wouldn't you believe his numbers? He is a series donor and connected. What are you again besides an angry fan?

 

[rurx1228]

I disa

Maybe that's why they were not successful and did not do much with fund raising. Misplaced priorities. This is not meant to be snarky. But if the AD is spending his/her time responding to rank and file fans on a fall Saturday and not keeping the big donors happy and courting new big donors, they are doing something wrong. The e-mail should be answered within a week, but not a high priority task that it has to be responded to immediately.
Do you disagree?

I disagree, this is exactly what the dems did in the last election. They failed to listen to the rank and file and lost the election. We have over 400,00 alumni, most of which never give anything back to the university, if we had something to be proud of many more would willingly donate.

If half of the alums gave an extra $1000 per year donation, that’s a lot of cabbage. Face it, people want to identify with winners, not losers

 

[Retired711]

Calm down, big guy. To throw those exact numbers out there I figured you’d have no problem validating your source.

But since you’re so defensive about it, no I don’t believe your numbers now.

As I've pointed out, you can get almost all these numbers by googling and looking at the Star-Ledger stories about ticket sales from last year and this year. I don't think the university makes any secret of what these numbers are.

 

[R1766U_rivals]

Email sent.

 

[Knight Shift]

I disa

I disagree, this is exactly what the dems did in the last election. They failed to listen to the rank and file and lost the election. We have over 400,00 alumni, most of which never give anything back to the university, if we had something to be proud of many more would willingly donate.

If half of the alums gave an extra $1000 per year donation, that’s a lot of cabbage. Face it, people want to identify with winners, not losers

Just to be clear- you think that instead of courting major donors on football day, Pat and Sarah should drop what they are doing and immediately answer random e-mails from angry fans? I did say they should respond within a week.

 

[rurx1228]

Just to be clear- you think that instead of courting major donors on football day, Pat and Sarah should drop what they are doing and immediately answer random e-mails from angry fans? I did say they should respond within a week.

I believe that Hobbs and Company should focus entirely on making the game day experience for the rank and file their number priority. You put a good product on the field and a good game day experience and the donations will come.

How many really big donors are there? I don’t know for sure but I bet it is less than 15.

Literally speaking they don’t need to respond to emails While we are getting our asses handed to us, but they need to recognize that the commoners like you and I should be a the top of the list. It’s easy to get big donors when you win a lot, ask Alabama.

 

[RU#1fan]

Did Hobbs answer?

I emailed Hobbs earlier this year on another matter.
Not even the courtesy of a response from him or some one in his department .
Real professional that Hobbs is.

 

[koleszar]

People in NJ particularly love to watch and comment on a train wreck.

Problem for me is I'm part of this train wreck. I've got so much money invested in our seats it just doesn't make fiscal sense to give them up. Hobbs better be another Casey Jones at the helm trying his damnedest to save all us passengers.

 

[read option]

Your posts have the same problem. If you don't like the response, you dismiss the poster's assertions, or you resort to name-calling. Why wouldn't you believe his numbers? He is a series donor and connected. What are you again besides an angry fan?

He actually called my question “stupid”, which is funny to me because he’s the one who’s apparently a “serious donor”. Now tell me who the stupid one is...

 

[Phi_1055]

He actually called my question “stupid”, which is funny to me because he’s the one who’s apparently a “serious donor”. Now tell me who the stupid one is...

Talking down to people is SOP for him. He may have lots of inside info but he also spreads a fair amount of alternative facts and uses his superior attitude as cover.

 

[RutgersROB]

2019.. the 150th Anniversary of College Football is just next year. And we could not be any lower.

So, if we hire someone like GS we can have a struggling team with a hope for the future story to sell... or we have this coach and his struggling team next year and invite all the remarks about "maybe Rutgers should still be playing Princeton.." etc.

Big FAIL by Barchi, Hobbs and Ash.

And all the the 150th anniversary is gonna be used as a pun to make jokes about how bad we are...the program needs to just ignore the anniversary at this point

 

[OriginalKnight]

I emailed my RU Ticket Rep last night that told him that I am done.
20 consecutive years as a Season ticketholder and donor to RU football has come to end.
Hobbs obviously isn’t doing anything with Ash and next year will actually be worse than this year.

Did he respond?

 

[RURM85]

A few weeks ago sent an email to my Rfund contact. Told her I will no longer donate until Ash is gone and the program gives me a little hope that it’s committed to a rebuild. No response back. Can’t wait until someone calls me looking for money.

 

[78CollegeAve]

I disa

I disagree, this is exactly what the dems did in the last election. They failed to listen to the rank and file and lost the election. We have over 400,00 alumni, most of which never give anything back to the university, if we had something to be proud of many more would willingly donate.

If half of the alums gave an extra $1000 per year donation, that’s a lot of cabbage. Face it, people want to identify with winners, not losers

What planet do you live on to think that half of RU alumni would ever donate $1,000 a year? Twenty Nobel Prizes or a half dozen B1G football and hoops championships might add 1,000 donors at that price point. Maybe ...

Talk to someone in the development office sometime and you’ll find out the number of donors and the typical gift. A better football team has little relevance for most alumni and, if anything, will only help the athletic budget and not the general fund.

A winning football team can produce more, and better, undergraduate applicants, but that’s about it.

 

[78CollegeAve]

Problem for me is I'm part of this train wreck. I've got so much money invested in our seats it just doesn't make fiscal sense to give them up. Hobbs better be another Casey Jones at the helm trying his damnedest to save all us passengers.

Just do it.

Mailed the rest of our 2017 tickets in Section 105 and scarlet passes to Hobbs after the EMU debacle. Wrote him that as long as Ash was here, football was dead to us and there’d be plenty of cheap tickets on StubHub, so maybe we’d still hit Homecoming. This year? Uh, I don’t think so.

Redirected our RU giving to the molecular bio department. Got a great note from a professor thanking us for the gift. That made us feel much better about our gift than seeing our names on the ribbon boards at halftime. Loving the alma mater doesn’t mean putting needles in our eyes on a half dozen Saturday afternoons each year.

 

[Plum Street]

Just do it.

Mailed the rest of our 2017 tickets in Section 105 and scarlet passes to Hobbs after the EMU debacle. Wrote him that as long as Ash was here, football was dead to us and there’d be plenty of cheap tickets on StubHub, so maybe we’d still hit Homecoming. This year? Uh, I don’t think so.

Redirected our RU giving to the molecular bio department. Got a great note from a professor thanking us for the gift. That made us feel much better about our gift than seeing our names on the ribbon boards at halftime. Loving the alma mater doesn’t mean putting needles in our eyes on a half dozen Saturday afternoons each year.

Ha you mailed tickets back to him? Did you get a response?

 

[RU4Real]

Redirected our RU giving to the molecular bio department. Got a great note from a professor thanking us for the gift. That made us feel much better about our gift than seeing our names on the ribbon boards at halftime. Loving the alma mater doesn’t mean putting needles in our eyes on a half dozen Saturday afternoons each year.

Great post.

Last year, frustrated with the Ash Heap, I directed my entire athletics donation to the gymnastics team.

 

[78CollegeAve]

Ha you mailed tickets back to him? Did you get a response?

Of course not. But I figured he might be able to re-sell the Ohio State tickets to a Buckeyes fan and help cut the deficit.

 

[Knight Shift]

Talking down to people is SOP for him. He may have lots of inside info but he also spreads a fair amount of alternative facts and uses his superior attitude as cover.

?????
I have zero inside info. Talking down? How can you talk down to read option when he is ripping you a new you know what and name-calling? Alternative facts and superior attitude? Yeah, my attitude is superior--I don't go mouthing off o fire everyone and destroy everything with knee-jerk reaction posting. That is superior. Thank you for noticing. Don't know what alternative facts you are referring to.