John Wall is a Choker
- Thread starter mbc82584
- Start date
Gonzo said Wall took that shot because Scottie Brooks drew it up. Let's just marinate on that. People go full retard when you say *anything* negative about anything related to UK.
1. Scottie Brooks doesn't coach. He doesn't tell his players squat because he can't. Mike Brown gets more respect. He yells if they don't get 50-59 balls and they don't hear him anyway.
2. There was no play. Nothing could have been "drawn up".
It goes like this - Wall says "I got this." His teammates nod and tell him hell yea we got you. There's no discussion. He should have at least called gortat for a pick, but he thought different. He made a not great decision when it counted. It happens.
Wall got a clean look and missed. Not much more to say. Bad decision? No. He had/has been knocking down that elbow/wing jumper pretty consistently. He front rimmed it. His teammate followed his miss up with a wide open 14 footer that he shot 12 feet. Not a choke job by anyone involved.
John Wall is, statistically, one of the most clutch players in the NBA.
Why is the OP troll not banned yet? Why is this thread not deleted yet?
Yes, a pass first PG can win a championship. No player can win one by himself though. Never heard of the CP3 question though but I can tell ya that it's never been CP3's fault his team didn't win. A player has to have another STAR player around them, at least to contend.
I would say few things.
1. You can win with pass first PG as the best player, but very difficult. Very rare. The problem is pass first PG like Paul isn't very gifted physically so it's hard for him to get necessary buckets or defensive stop when needed.
2. It's not exactly Paul's fault. But Wall can do things Paul can't, physically. When playoff comes, unfortunately that becomes more and more true. However, this becomes more true when you have guy like Lebron, (KD Kawhi, mostly) who can do everything Paul/Wall can do but is few inches taller and longer.
3. Wall is pass first PG, but more accurately he is great PG. He can do different things to win you the game. His one flaw is his three point shooting, but beyond that his game is off the chart.
So, i agree that he needs another star, but Paul becomes too systematic on a team. He can't give you those wow play that defines a championship teams. He can't do those plays that isn't defined.
What Wall needs is a dynamic 3/4 player who can do amazing thing on both end. Unfortunately Lebron, Kawhi, and KD are all on another team. Too bad KD didn't pick Washington, because if they had..i would have given the title to Washington.
That Damn Wall looked like a choker tonight at home and IT tore it up again!
27 points and 12 assists tonight...lulz at this thread, again. Wonder if the wiz are even in the playoffs, much less the 2nd rd if he didn't play for them
Without wall, I believe this team would be playing for #1 pick.
When LeBron hangs it up the East will be interesting and there is no reason the Wizards couldn't be right there at the top. Pretty amazing considering they had the number one pick just 7-8 years ago and John Wall has changed that organization ten fold.
It was TERRIBLE decision by a good player. This wasn't "just another play" this was a chance to win a playoff game. If I'm the coach there is no way that I want John Wall taking a fade away jump shot in that situation. He needed to try to get to the rim and make the defense collapse to get fouled or get a shooter a shot.
And shooting a 14 foot shot 12 feet during a game when you've been making the shot pretty consistently is kind of the definition of choking (short arming a shot in a tight game is universally known as folding under the pressure).
Beal was the one who took the middle of the paint jumper and airballed it by 2 feet, not Wall. Wall had a great look, just front rimmed it. Could he have tried to force it and drive the lane? Probably, but he had a clean look and missed. That's all.
Just absurd you consider him a choker.
Ok, he wasn't two feet short, but he still short armed it. Yes, brain farting and settling for a fade away jump shot is at best a terrible decision and at worst a choke job. It is not a winning play. If it was Steph Curry or Harden or the many other jump shooters in the NBA it would be different but shooting is not why Wall is considered a great player and in that situation you go to your strengths.
As a side note, in the infamous WVA tourney game Wall shot 5 3's and made one. I'm pretty sure Cal wasn't pleased that a 32% 3 pt shooter shot 5 threes in an E8 game. You could argue that's folding under pressure as well. But, he is fast, athletic and exciting so lets ignore his faults.
But lets at least be honest. I didn't say he was a choker, I said he choked in that game.
Let them nuts hang low and get the wheel barrow out!!! Too big to carry son!!!!!!
lol I just posted
guess I called you out a little bit, not by name, couldn't remember who it was!
It's all in good fun though
Props for the OP bump.
(You beat me to it)
(You beat me to it)
Lol at this thread again...took over in the 2nd half, game winning 3.
OP is praying for a game 7 loss, bc a guy that chokes surely doesn't take the wizards to the conference finals for the first time since the 70s.
OP is praying for a game 7 loss, bc a guy that chokes surely doesn't take the wizards to the conference finals for the first time since the 70s.
hey give the OP credit y'all; he admitted he was wrong, and glad to be
Right, I'm totally praying for a game 7 loss for our UK kid, that's why I bumped this thread and ate crow haha. I said on like page 1 I hoped I was wrong and always rooted for all our guys in the NBA