Good interpretation. He’s enigmatic so u can interpret things in different ways
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Randal Cunningham who still upset the Eagles wouldn’t give him the #7
Sounded like he was not close to RHJ and Baker. As we all thought.
Was clear his buddies were Tez and Caleb.
Was clear his buddies were Tez and Caleb.
2019-20 Montez and Jacob did not click at all. I did see a difference, albeit on TV vs live, last year
Comments on weak ankles and “rubbing dirt on it” were interesting
Was nice to have knowledgeable hosts rather than some of the media types who will accept all the talking points from program spokespersons as gospel (not that the program PR is malevolent in any way). That’s what made this interview feel very authentic.
At the end of the day Pike will coach this years team up, and he added some good pieces, but having JY would’ve brightened the outlook for sure. The need for people to try and tear JY down to on the way out is very disheartening as a Rutgers fan who acknowledges just how integral JY was.
At the end of the day Pike will coach this years team up, and he added some good pieces, but having JY would’ve brightened the outlook for sure. The need for people to try and tear JY down to on the way out is very disheartening as a Rutgers fan who acknowledges just how integral JY was.
I loved Randal, but #7 got the Eagles to a Super Bowl. He can’t have #9 either.
To be fair, that was a pretty biased interview but that’s what you get on podcasts.
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It’s more so someone being honest in an interview imo. It’s hard for me to comprehend how people watch JY and dont say thats some elite athletic ability that truly cannot be taught. We will miss him tremendously
JY had the type of talent that on any given day could dominate the game.
But also had some flaws that could make people forget the type of talent he possessed.
Any given game we knew Young could take it over and bring home the win .
But the same goes for Jacob giving it away by playing out of control.
Everyone says it but a handful of posters keep bringing the departure up like it’s this great controversy. Under normal circumstances he would have been gone anyway and under these circumstances he clearly wasn’t coming back since he planned on turning pro.
It took a family and coach intervention from a program that is a national title contender to dictate otherwise. Hopefully this interview and thread will be the closure some here need to finally move on. This may be the strangest fanboy phenomenon I have witnessed on these boards.
Yes. Great points all around. I’ll just add JY is one of those rare guys that’s so weird and enigmatic he draws fan boy adoration. That’s why we can’t stop talking about it. Plus it’ll be weird seeing him do cool stuff for Oregon.
Honestly, I barely thought about Gene when we went out there. FWIW, I wish Jacob well. I had the pleasure of meeting him for something at work and he’s a great guy. I’m sure he’ll do well in the future.
But onward with the team we have. Looking forward to being back at the RAC and seeing them develop.
Agree Eugene I didn’t really think about either. But perhaps because he redshirted in 2019 and then LY we were hooping in the top 25. Not a lot of brain matter left to think about him
If I would have told you in year 3 of The Eddie Jordan regime that in 5 years we would finally making the NCAA tournament and one guy would have an off charts game on both ends on the floor. You would say that guy would a legend.
I am not saying we should view him as a legend.
No one else played a role in getting the program to that point? Again, this thinking is nuts.
And if there was a senior captain who put up 20-10 on the final home game of the season against Indiana..
I like JY and I don’t get angry at anyone for leaving. But two quotes stuck out to me. One from JY today.
JY: “I was consistent but everybody went downhill after Ohio State.”
And one from RHJ
“After Ohio State, everyone wanted to score 20. We need to want to be a superstar in your role.”
I don’t remember Ron’s exact wording but this is close.
JY: “I was consistent but everybody went downhill after Ohio State.”
And one from RHJ
“After Ohio State, everyone wanted to score 20. We need to want to be a superstar in your role.”
I don’t remember Ron’s exact wording but this is close.
The Minnesota game need to be rewatched……and I never said it was all Jacob. In fact I have always believed Myles was the most important player.
I am not heartbroken Jacob is gone. With that being said you have to realize how unbelievably important he was and how he played at significantly higher level than any other perimeter player. Down the stretch we won because of him. I don’t know how people can disagree. I could repost old threads
Young does have elite athletic ability that can't be taught (e.g., you can't teach speed). But he also had a need to be taught how to effectively USE that athletic ability.
It's not like his natural-born athletic ability didn't exist while he was at Texas or in 20-19-20. But in this last year his performance jumped up to a level that was more commensurate with his natural ability... and that's because of two years of coaching to get him to develop his skills along with his talents. As you said, the start of 2019-20 wasn't good for him, but he developed over time - to the point where the end of this year he was finally starting to click on all cylinders more consistently.
Same with Eugene Omoruyi - he came in rough and raw, was molded into a much better player, then got healthy and had a great year at Oregon. Without the development he got as a player here for three years, that final season wouldn't have been possible.
I hope he can take what he's learned at Rutgers and build on it at Oregon. I liked him as a player, and glad that he chose to come here when things hadn't yet gotten off the ground. I don't see his leaving as the end of the world - especially if he was getting disgruntled with his role as a bench sparkplug and was chafing with teammates. Losing Johnson is a bigger hit to the overall quality of the team.
Most are giving him his due and not arguing that. Most are just choosing not to genuflect at an altar. In my book, the entire team are legends because all of them helped break the streak.
I wanted to be wrong about OSU game(6-0, Geo missed game 2-4), but that game wrecked the chemistry for the rest of 2020-21, I think Myles no longer wanted to play in the B1G and the B1G refs, and there was a clear divide between Mathis/Young vs RHJ/Geo. to go up 16(48-32, Myles w/4) in the 2nd half, Myles 5 fouls, JY hurt, and lose by 12(68-80) the way they did. RU did come back and beat Purdue(7-1) w/out RHJ, 7-9 reg season. 1-1 B1G, 1-1 MM. Look how the offseason played out, one side left and the other came back.
They won the games they needed to but it was a struggle to finish and lost games they wouldn't have in 19-20. After Purdue, they won 2x 13th Minn, 2x 12th NW, 2x 10th Indiana, and W 9th MSU, L to 14th @Nebraska, L to 11th @PSU and Home L to 8th Md. I'm glad they official broke the drought but they only made it based on those first 7 wins(7-1), and chemistry was hanging on a thread after OSU, and severed after the close home loss to Iowa. 2021-22 is a new year new team, and all good as far as we know.
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That brings a whole new perspective to last season.
So Ron called everyone out and yet after tOSU game Ron proceeded to average 12 points on just 39% from the floor (and 20% from 3) on 11 attempts per game…
Young 14 on 47% (35% from 3) 11 attempts per game
Geo 11 on 42%(33% from 3) on 10 attempts per
Bad look from Ron
Note that Ron called everyone out including himself while JY said “I was consistent and everyone else fell off a Cliff.”
Watch the Ron interview. He’s very up front about what he did wrong and how he has to get better.
JY didn’t need to be called out clearly.
Real reason to worried about Ron offensively this year with his draft prospects looking over the season and his desire to get more shots.
He’s like a dog with a bone on this. Just won’t give it up.
Care to expand on what stood out to you?
You left your post super ambiguous. I took the quote, looked back at what actually happened during the time he referenced, and thought about what all that actually meant. What did you do?
Jacob talked about how he was the only one who played well all season. Called everyone else out. Called out Pikiell’s game planning when he should have had the ball in his hands at the end of a game.
Meanwhile, Ron said the whole team had to do better knowing their roles and being great at them. Not everyone can score 20 a night—but you can always do something well. But when things went bad everyone just wanted to score 20.
Based on the numbers, Ron was primarily the player who needed to focus on being a superstar in a more limited role. His whole quote is really perplexing based on what the numbers were.
JY no longer being a part of the program probably plays into the bluntness of the quote.
That and based on Geo and Ron’s comments this off season circling around them trying to be “the guys” in charge of the program but not performing at the level of JY and Myles probably getting tiring for JY.
Talking about this situation in a vacuum.
Lol
You keep trying to fit your narrative
To me, this is an obvious case of JY wearing out his welcome and moving to his next stop. All about him.
Thats fine...I will always support his contributions
But please stop trying to twist what happened here.
Basketball is a team sport last time I checked
All about him? Ron’s quote wasn’t just “we all need to play better” it was “everyone needs to know their roles and not try to score 20 points” which was basically calling out Young.
No narrative here, this what Ron said, and then what actaully happened In terms of shot distribution
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