And she was suspended. What's your point?
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Why does Ant Edwards go after Reese?
Weird.
This whole incident is crazy.
It was a foul...refs missed it..happens all the time.
The replay review on the second non- foul was dangerous and did knock CC out...that was truly bad.
That ref needs to be held to account and should not be assigned to any fever games
Otherwise...move on.
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And I'd still venture to say game 2 wouldn't have escalated to that point, had Sophie not done the pointing in game 1.
Then she talks about the league failing to protect CC. SMH. Step up and do it yourself
He doesn't. They are just fake screenshots that accounts use to make jokes at Angel Reese and others expense.
The tweets in this post are fabricated.
But it was okay for Bonner to do EXACTLY the same thing. What is your deal dude? Did her actions not lead to Wednesday, let alone her walking out on the team last season and some of her comments after she left? Do you think last weeks "festivities" happened in a vacuum?
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Are you for real? The point is commish of this crap show said NOTHING about the the two dustups on Monday or Wednesday. NO public comment about Thomas's actions on Wednesday from her, even though it was on every talk show, and pretty much everyone who isn't a black female, (and even quite a few of them), said publicly that Thomas's actions were not accidental, and she continues to commit unsafe acts against opponents. You can watch numerous plays of her doing "non basketball" clear outs and risking injury to other players and the ONE constant you see in EVERY clip is Thomas walking away, smiling or laughing. So where was Engelbert front and center with her public outrage last Thursday?
This post is just as stupid as many of the others. I'm sure Sophie's jersey sales being one of the tops of all WNBA players, and the dozen new commercials she's doing are because no one knew who she was prior to last Wednesday......huh....
I'll just add this. Many, including some here are trying to make this about something Caitlin Clark, did or didn't do. Most of this backlash, racial tension and baiting have nothing to do with her. She's become the poster child for the anger from both sides and goes to much deeper issues across our country. I feel really bad for her. I really think she just wants to play the game she loves, and is so good at, and this has gone so far south I highly doubt we'll ever see the best of what could have been from her.
Agree. This can't be the least bit fun for her right now. Every game is something different.
WNBA officials call phantom fouls but do not call very serious fouls or some that could be called assaults. It needs to clean house.
CC is the one who took the brunt of game 2.
I do not think game 2 would have escalated to that point had Sophie handled game 1 better.
Just a guess. But quite straightforward
For past behavior to have been considered in AT's punishment, may very well have been appropriate.
I don't see any reason for public comment, though. This isn't a soap opera. If anything, meet privately with AT
Clean house with referees?
Where are they supposed to find better ones? The good ones aren't leaving their current gigs.
What needs to happen is vigorous off-season training to try to get them up to speed
TwiiterTard Steve doesn't care...his entire world is Twitter....if he sees it on Twitter, it must be true.
Why doesn't the dip tell the truth..."we only condone hate and violence if it's directed at cc". She's an idiot
For immediate correction:
The league needs to elevate its efforts:
1. Open up the number of reviews for potential flagrant fouls without a timeout penalty (for the sake of player safety) The current review process effectively limits at teams ability to protect its players to an arbitrary number, regardless of how many actual flagrant fouls are committed.
2. Increase the real-time penalty to the point that committing flagrant fouls will result in impacting the game's outcome (ejections, free throws, possession flip).
3. Increase the severity of Flagrant foul ejections in the number of suspended games and fines.
These immediate changes would put "teeth" in the league's desire to address excessive and dangerous physical activity, thereby increasing safety and more properly placing emphasis on the skill of players rather than their ability to impose brutal physical dominance. Essentially, the league suffers from a legacy culture that does not attract modern-day viewership. This would be an immediate fix addressing safety and enhancing appeal to the modern-day fan that could be applied evenly across all teams, protecting all players.
Also, the league should create a Flagrant Foul command center to ensure that a uniform approach to reviewing potential flagrant fouls, similar to the review processes implemented by the NFL and NCAA for plays involving offenses of targeting on defenseless players. Such an approach would encourage fair, timely, consistent review with just impacts to the in game competition.
The league needs to elevate its efforts:
1. Open up the number of reviews for potential flagrant fouls without a timeout penalty (for the sake of player safety) The current review process effectively limits at teams ability to protect its players to an arbitrary number, regardless of how many actual flagrant fouls are committed.
2. Increase the real-time penalty to the point that committing flagrant fouls will result in impacting the game's outcome (ejections, free throws, possession flip).
3. Increase the severity of Flagrant foul ejections in the number of suspended games and fines.
These immediate changes would put "teeth" in the league's desire to address excessive and dangerous physical activity, thereby increasing safety and more properly placing emphasis on the skill of players rather than their ability to impose brutal physical dominance. Essentially, the league suffers from a legacy culture that does not attract modern-day viewership. This would be an immediate fix addressing safety and enhancing appeal to the modern-day fan that could be applied evenly across all teams, protecting all players.
Also, the league should create a Flagrant Foul command center to ensure that a uniform approach to reviewing potential flagrant fouls, similar to the review processes implemented by the NFL and NCAA for plays involving offenses of targeting on defenseless players. Such an approach would encourage fair, timely, consistent review with just impacts to the in game competition.
Are you that ignorant to think the biggest issue that Clark has is her back bothering her? Really? You don't see ALL of this coming at her from both sides and her in the center of this storm, (one she did not create) may very well be weighing heavily on her mentally? Do you really think if this were to continue for the next ten years and it doesn't back way down, (not sure how you control social media), that she'll still be playing in 2036? Add in other reasons like, maybe she wants to have a family, and she may very well have made 100 million dollars in the next 5 or 6 years, regardless I'd be shocked if she'll be around that long given the current climate. I don't give a hoot, how much money she makes, or about any of the race baiting or politics. I would just like to see her play at the best of her ability and see just what that would look like as she becomes a veteran in the league. It could be an amazing time, like watching Tiger, Michael, Magic, Bird, Gretzky, etc... again. Unfortunately I think we will be deprived of seeing another generational player in their sport because of everything swirling around her. So sad really.....
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Well there was sure reason to publicly comment after idiots went after Thomas but not when idiots on social media go after Clark or Thomas disrupts "player safety" with her continued actions? so why one and not the other?
Always in this ongoing soap opera someone brings all this back to Clark. She's been called out for things she said. She's been called out for things she didn't say. Do you think there was a reason that Paige made that public statement about the black and gay women who came before her getting credit, because that was top of mind for her or because she was getting ahead of some of the stuff that Clark didn't say (and should not have had to say) her rookie year and was critiqued for not saying.
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Thank you for posting some excellent ideas. Unfortunately, "the league" doesn't seem all that interested in changing their "tough girl" image, and Thomas is the poster child. I highly doubt we'll see anything but lip service on this issue, unless Adam Silver replaces the commish, and gives them marching orders to clean this crap up.
Well since you got plenty of time at the nursing home, maybe it's time you take your own advice, get certified and get out there and solve the issue of poor WNBA officiating yourself.......bro.
This has been an ongoing issue, so what happened (or didn't happen) in this off season?
Better officials, would that be that difficult? Every official needs to reviewed after every game.
Look at what the NBA did to Draymond Green as an example.
He's choked, stomped and smacked players. His penalties have increased from 1 game, to 5 games and the last one was 12 games and having him take therapy for his anger.
As the NBA being the godfather over the W this should be a no brainer of what to do. But instead the W leadership has no plan or rules in place to cover this and the thugs continue with their dirty play.
I believe that after the Olympics, CC leaving the WNBA to play in Europe is very much in play. If she did it now, and yes I understand there are some contractual issues, they would most certainly use that against her. They would love an excuse to leave her off the team. After, I could see her doing it just so she could enjoy playing basketball again. Other than the money, I imagine it's not so fun right now.
So Sophie should not have responded to Bonner? I guess she should have just walked away. And nothing she did carried over any more than any other pre-existing feelings did.
I don't know what, "ALL of this coming at her", means, or is in reference to.
But not sure why ANY of it has to exist within CC's mind. Her job is simply to play ball. Pretty much all athletes are told to stay off social media.
I do think CC is under too much stress. Vedic medicine tells us that the body stores stress in the lower back.
This is part of what I warned people about when they started calling CC the greatest women's basketball player of all-time, 2 years before she had ever played professionally. That it would create a backlash that would make things very difficult for her.
They created a superhero, savior, ambassador, role-model, type figure that is a lot to live up to, should one try. Let alone, they created an image of a basketball player in their minds, that is nearly impossible to attain.
CC needs to get healthy, stop worrying about anything else but ball, get a pair of earmuffs, play ball, and pray that people stop making excuses for her. It only detracts from her greatness.
Yes, injuries are sad. But that's what has derailed CC's career so far. They happen. She is the first of the athletes you mentioned, to have her injury blamed on something/someone else
I'm not sure why any of this matters.
Is this stuff being paid attention to in any other sport?
Unless there are issues as a citizen, or major moral issues, I only care how athletes perform in their sport.
I'm not even aware of half this stuff you're talking about. Why would a sports fan even care?
Maybe training was received and the refs still have a ways to go. Maybe not. I have no idea.
I don't see how the officiating is an "issue", unless there are is a lack of intergrity.
Referees are part of the game. Players and consumers should be thankful that they are there to facilitate the product
Meaning new officials? I'm not sure what you mean.
I'm not sure if it's every game. But am near positive the performance of referees is regularly reviewed.
Let me let you in on what that process reveals. "Ok. They all sucked again."
Now what?
Do you know that Thomas did? Do you know that Clark hasn't?
You don't know that the W has no ability to address this. Perhaps AT's history will be used against her from this point forward.
That's how it was with Draymond, until it wasn't.
Fact is, no one would give a **** if CC wasn't involved
Sophie shouldn't have responded in the way she did. That's for sure.
I would almost guarantee the prolonged point added fuel to the fire