You are so far beyond ridiculous. You say in your first comment, you don't know what "all this coming at her means", and then you go on to list several of the very issues that would most certainly effect her mentally. Then you act like all she has to do is play ball, and she's never going to be subjected to any of the outside noise when its HER in the interviews answering the questions. Its HER face on every talk show, and yet in todays world you really think she can just stay somehow oblivious to it all. Even her so called "fans" some are radicals every bit as much as her detractors. Also DR eyes, since you know how every injury she has suffered had nothing to do with any of the "contact" she's taken in the league, maybe you can enlighten us. My bad for continuing to engage someone who can't see the forest for the tree's.
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I'm not sure any of those changes could go into effect until there is a new CBA.
I'm not sure there is an overall flagrant foul problem in the W.
In the case of CC, her teammates have let her down.
The game is policed by the whistle. But it is also policed by players. You have to stand up for yourself and your teammates by playing with physicality, yourself.
That's hard to do with a bad back. So CC's teammates need to be better enforcers. That doesn't mean flagrant fouls and thuggery. If it takes a flagrant on occasion, so be it. But play with physicality. Use your fouls when needed. Foul hard. Screen hard. Box out hard. Drive hard. Body seek and put relentless pressure on the paint. Use your body offensively. Force them to foul you. Etc.
Players are going to punk you until you stick up for yourself. A team is going "get away" with playing more physical, if they can. The team getting beat on must match the physicality. Once this happens, the original aggressors can tend to back off a little. At least they won't re-up the intensity. They aren't trying to fight. They were just trying to get an advantage.
I will say that women have a harder time defining and playing on that line of physicality, without becoming too emotional. To me, the prolonged pointing between Sophie and Bonner was an example of a situation that got far more out of control than two guys who simultaneously push each other, and then stand there and stare at each other, while they let everyone get in between them, to break it up. So maybe some examination of how the entirety of physicality impacts the W game, is in order.
If possible, one of the first things the W needs to do, is get more men referees. Some people are going to take that the wrong way. But emotion has no place in policing
I never said CC's injury had nothing to do with contact.
Don't do the interviews (that aren't contractually mandated) if they affect your play.
Blocking out the noise literally becomes part of your job. How is this different than any other athlete?
She IS contractually obligated any time they want to talk to HER after a game. There is no escaping that without a fine. How do you not see that she's been the face of her sport since even before she was drafted? How do you not see that. It is different then any other player in her sport. Please list other athletes who have entered their sport as pro's with the attention on them that she has? Even the greats never ran into this level, and NONE of them under the current social media blitz of today. This is new territory
This is all so stupid and ruined what should have been an amazing, fun experience for EVERYONE
CC joins the pros
W gets millions more views, sponsors, growth
Players reap benefits of more views, $, sponsorships.
Instead it’s three years of absolute ********. Her rookie year had some of these issues (rough play, bad officiating, team USA etc) but it still felt closer to her days at Iowa. She had some great games and showed why there was hype….and room for her to grow as a player.
Then….its turned into a grind every single game. Last year she gets hurt and that deflates the momentum
Now, it’s unwatchable. CC has struggled with her shot, although the last week or two before this injury seemed to be coming back. No one watches her for a half court game. We want the free flow, running, long threes….and we’re getting mid range game and assists haha
The politics getting involved….how do you even get back to a normal? The W could do something but they seem to believe all of clicks and extra views was built from the past.
For me to watch again
W have to reign in the roller derby, which getting better officiating could help.
Suspensions
CC could learn to drop the whining. The excuse of “competitor” or “always been this way” or “frustrated”….no.
She’s a professional now. Act like it, and it will help the narrative a bit.
CC joins the pros
W gets millions more views, sponsors, growth
Players reap benefits of more views, $, sponsorships.
Instead it’s three years of absolute ********. Her rookie year had some of these issues (rough play, bad officiating, team USA etc) but it still felt closer to her days at Iowa. She had some great games and showed why there was hype….and room for her to grow as a player.
Then….its turned into a grind every single game. Last year she gets hurt and that deflates the momentum
Now, it’s unwatchable. CC has struggled with her shot, although the last week or two before this injury seemed to be coming back. No one watches her for a half court game. We want the free flow, running, long threes….and we’re getting mid range game and assists haha
The politics getting involved….how do you even get back to a normal? The W could do something but they seem to believe all of clicks and extra views was built from the past.
For me to watch again
W have to reign in the roller derby, which getting better officiating could help.
Suspensions
CC could learn to drop the whining. The excuse of “competitor” or “always been this way” or “frustrated”….no.
She’s a professional now. Act like it, and it will help the narrative a bit.
Agree on everything besides your last point. And i guess that’s in your “what it would take to get me to watch again” which would mean it’s more a “you thing” which is fine. But she doesn’t act any different than any of the other superstars in any of the other leagues. Hell, there’s plenty of players just in the WNBA that go off on the officials constantly. She has the spotlight though, so i guess it looks worse.
I'm aware of the contractually mandated interviews. Thus, my parenthetical remark.
I'm aware CC has been the face of the sport. Not sure where I've said otherwise.
There are others that have had a similar dynamic (minus socials). Tiger, Serena, LeBron.
What's the same for them all, is they have to find a way to perform their job at a high level.
I agree, CC is facing a lot. But what do you want her to do? Even if she's facing unfair stressors, she still has to perform. And for the most part she's done that very well, when healthy.
If unfair stressors affect CC's game, then it becomes her job to limit that. If that amounts to getting paid millions to stay off socials, I think she'll be ok.
I mean, what do you expect to come of any of this? Either CC will regain her health, and go on to have a great career. Or she will have an injury riddled and shortened career. Social media isn't going to change. So whatever that amounts to, is going to be part of either career path.
And part of what that seems to entail is people that are going to whine and make execues for CC, regardless of career path. Even in some cases, assigning blame for CC's injuries. And all of it, regardless of career path, will do nothing but detract from CC's greatness
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Remember when trolling was actually quite funny...it must be getting harder.
Absolutely! BTW, I remember when Dray stomped Domas' chest. Man, that triggered a lot of us. He got the boot for that. If I'm remembering correctly, his total games of his suspension lasted until the Kings played them again lol. What luck, ehh?
Thought I'd sneak a H.Y. joke in here real quick.
"I just got back from a pleasure trip............................................................I took my mother-in-law to the airport!
"I just got back from a pleasure trip............................................................I took my mother-in-law to the airport!
Good thing the NBA didn’t market Jordan and focused on other players….oh wait, never mind.
The NIL excuse has been debunked. There are other posters by the same company with Clark on it, so that’s false.
Many of her technicals should have been rescinded….hitting the stanchion for one and clapping both come to mind.
The freedom of movement was a point of focus this year which is why fouls and scoring are up this season, but Clark doesn’t benefit from them…but you know that. And if you need links, then you’re not watching the games- believe your eyes.
Every day shows bias against Clark by the league- just today the commissioner comes out with a statement supporting Thomas- no statement after it happened to Clark, only when there’s supposed trolling happening to Thomas.
High school officials are better than the officials in the WNBA…they can find replacements…it’s not like they’re trying to replace highly skilled professionals.
I would bet that she has, she just doesn’t whine about it publicly. Also, there have only been two actual arrests made as a result of stalking/harassing WNBA players- they involved Clark and Cunningham. Funny how that works.
Much like hockey, most of the teams in the WNBA have players who are intended to play roles as enforcers and goons; these are the players who represent the greatest risk to player safety while adding the least level of player skill and resulting viewing pleasure to the modern fan base. With an approach similar to the one I described, these players and teams would be disincentivized to use excessive physical force as a competitive strategy. While the current player leadership and administrators of the CBA agreement would need to approve, it would be difficult to explain why they would be against measures that would lead to greater player safety, health, and well-being while improving the viewing experience and pleasure for the majority of the modern-day WNBA fans.
Watch the full 2 minutes here.
AT claims she didn't even know that the play took place. What a lying b.itch.
And note all of the things she is sick and tired of. The irony. Well, guess what? We are sick and tired of your thug and dirty play.
When are we going to hear from the commissioner, where she says that thug and dirty play is unacceptable and will not be tolerated? Instead , the commissioner is making sure that the Mercury have the proper security that they need.
Man pleads guilty, sentenced to prison for stalking Caitlin Clark
A man who told police he was in "an imaginary relationship" with WNBA star Caitlin Clark was sentenced to 2 1/2 years in prison after pleading guilty to stalking and harassing.
www.espn.com
Does this count?
Per Wikipedia, she was born in Texas.
Yeah, the NBA was behind MJ 100%.... like when they fined him for wearing his Air Jordans.
Yet Clark continues to put up numbers at a faster pace than anyone before her. Despite all of what you’re pointing out. All the crap she deals with.
I'm not a marketing major. But why are we to care how players are being marketed?
NIL aside, It's arguable whether CC should be on a 30 yr poster. The main reason to have CC on the poster would be marketing. And my guess is it would have been sound marketing to do so. But I don't see where the poster is something to raise a stink about.
Hitting the station and clapping can both be worthy of a technical. I'd have to see the clip of the clapping. If it's deemed to have been showing up an official or taunting a player, a tech certainly can apply. And, I believe disrespect of property is to be interpreted as an automatic tech.
Why does CC not benefit from freedom of movement initiative? No, I'm not sure what you're referring to.
I watch parts of Fever games. Although there couldn't be a bigger basketball junkie, my viewing doesn't always land on the Fever. I've never watched the game for the purpose of watching one player. And most of my bball viewing comes down to where the live market betting opportunities arise. Unless we're talking Hawkeye nights, of course. But I see a good deal of Fever action, and haven't ever seen anything but hard play vs CC, and bad officiating all the way around.
What does a statement for Thomas have to do with Clark? Did CC receive death threats?
First off I NEVER asked HER to do anything. I said if things continue we'll NEVER see the great veteran player she could have become. Make whatever stupid comments about that which I never said. Second did Serena Tiger and even Lebron (all in their 40's or older by the way) REALLY have the social media blast (which is another big issue here) to deal with during their young careers? Did they?
As for CC handling the stress of this all. Maybe that's another subject entirely. Honestly she's always struggled handling her emotions and finding her place inside a team. Her time at Iowa and the measures they took there certainly point that out. Do you think she's in a less stressful, less volatile scenario now, or are things much worse?
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You might wanna tone down your disingenuous posts. You're trying a bit too hard, and it's starting to show. People already know you're a troll, but you also want to keep playing the bit because you have nothing better to do at the nursing home.
Posts like these don't help......
In that they care more, more often than not...............
That's the happy medium, to be honest. There's a drastic cliff dive in f**ks given when you go up or down levels, especially for girls basketball.
I speak from experience.
You do realize that other WNBA players have smacked the pad under the basket several times in the last 2 years and not been T'd up. But your right its always a T. Right? And before you say, Oh, I haven't seen that, so it must not have happened, just don't.