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RUPete

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The days?

I remember that happening once in the 80s. Did it happen more than that?
It was 1985 and still considered very rare. I wonder if that has happened with any other conference? Keith Lee and Andre Turner at Memphis State were the outliers that year.
 

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I don’t get it. I’ve been there. I did a job with my buddy when I was out of work during CoVID and it was literally right outside the campus. Nothing special and zero academic standards for sure based on the student body that we saw coming in and out lol. How the F do they recruit outside of ‘graded don’t matter.” The SEC already does that.
You Ever been to New Brunswick, NJ or Piscataway, NJ?
 
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The RUT

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holloway was going to SHU whether they lost in the rd of 64 or win the championship. This run is meaningless to us

and we really don’t recruit the same kids…maybe once in a while but not much.
False, this run has brought attention to Halloway. Players are going to want to play for him and coach’s are going to want to deal with him.

His quote talking about Jersey and NYC kids is going to carry so much weight.

Watch what he does recruiting in this area and then in a couple years people can cry about us having to deal with it on the court.
 
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holloway was going to SHU whether they lost in the rd of 64 or win the championship. This run is meaningless to us

and we really don’t recruit the same kids…maybe once in a while but not much.
Plus is Kentucky worried about Louisville?
Is Ohio St concerned about Xavier or Cincy?

There are plenty of good hoops players for RU even if Sha recruits well.
 

Knight Shift

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False, this run has brought attention to Halloway. Players are going to want to play for him and coach’s are going to want to deal with him.

His quote talking about Jersey and NYC kids is going to carry so much weight.

Watch what he does recruiting in this area and then in a couple years people can cry about us having to deal with it on the court.
It's Holloway. There's one A in his name. There are multiple threads and news articles properly spelling his name.
And stop being such a wilting flower. Some of you people are really insufferable worrywarts.
 

RUDiddy777

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Wow people are just miserable. St. Peter’s is writing the greatest NCAA tournament Cinderella story in history and the OP has to crap on their campus?! Really?!

Really bad look OP.

Seriously. March was lost for me until these kids managed to slay Goliath. And then did it two more times.

Just got back from Departed Soles as it seemed like a brewery in JC that just named a beer “Busted Bracket” after them was the right place to spend a couple of hours this afternoon.
 
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Mikemarc

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False, this run has brought attention to Halloway. Players are going to want to play for him and coach’s are going to want to deal with him.

His quote talking about Jersey and NYC kids is going to carry so much weight.

Watch what he does recruiting in this area and then in a couple years people can cry about us having to deal with it on the court.
We have a coach that builds up low ranked recruits. We are fine
 
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The RUT

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It's Holloway. There's one A in his name. There are multiple threads and news articles properly spelling his name.
And stop being such a wilting flower. Some of you people are really insufferable worrywarts.
Boo hoo.

Just don’t make a peep about it in a couple years.
 

The RUT

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Just spell his name right, if you are such a fanboy.
Lol I didn’t know who the guy was before this year.

I was 9 years old when he was at the Hall.

It’s just comical people here still don’t think recruiting matters. And what he’s doing right now isn’t going to give him a big recruiting boost.
 

Russ Wood

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It was 1985 and still considered very rare. I wonder if that has happened with any other conference? Keith Lee and Andre Turner at Memphis State were the outliers that year.
Yes, 1985 that's what I recall. St. John's, Georgetown and Villanova.

It is considered rare because three teams from the same conference have not appeared in the final four since then.

It was also the first time two private schools met in the championship game.

Memphis had to vacate its appearance, and all of its tournament appearances from 1982–1986 because it used ineligible players.

Memphis been cheat for a long azz time
 

RUDiddy777

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How about this, you miserable bunch...just be happy for a bunch of kids on a dream ride. It will have almost no effect on your beloved Knights.

Started St Pats with a teary eyed flight home from Cincy and ended jumping up and down watching some kids from Jersey taking down Kentucky, with nearly the same enthusiasm I’d have for the Knights. People just need to enjoy the beauty of this. It’s not likely to happen again any time soon.
 

Plum Street

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False, this run has brought attention to Halloway. Players are going to want to play for him and coach’s are going to want to deal with him.

His quote talking about Jersey and NYC kids is going to carry so much weight.

Watch what he does recruiting in this area and then in a couple years people can cry about us having to deal with it on the court.
It has . We are in the BIG with loads of $$ and just extended one of our greatest coaches of all time .
But if we have worry about what st Peter’s is doing this weekend, we have very big problems. .
 

tico brown

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With the admin St Peters have over there, I wouldn’t be surprised if they go 5-27 next year. Unfortunately they’re not built like FGCU, George Mason, Loyola Chicago, Loyola Marymount, etc
 

Knightmoves

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With the admin St Peters have over there, I wouldn’t be surprised if they go 5-27 next year. Unfortunately they’re not built like FGCU, George Mason, Loyola Chicago, Loyola Marymount, etc
I read yesterday that SPC’s attendance this season was 960. That’s for the entire season. Ever been to the Yanitelli Center? It’s not much.

Hope they win today against UNC. That will be sweet.
 
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tico brown

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I read yesterday that SPC’s attendance this season was 960. That’s for the entire season. Ever been to the Yanitelli Center? It’s not much.

Hope they win today against UNC. That will be sweet.
That’s probably per game since I went to a couple of their games and saw others on ESPN+. I could honestly say that the crowd was so spread out that it wouldn’t fill up one side of the gym. Since a quarter of their 3200 capacity is 800, I can see that being the attendance for the night. Maybe they would get more if they didn’t charged $20 a general admission ticket.

Just couldn’t believe that this was a D1 program. STILL can’t believe that today as they played/ing teams with 22 K arenas last couple of weeks. I just hope that they will take advantage of the last couple of weeks for future use. I seriously doubt that will happen though.
 
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Knightmoves

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That’s probably per game since I went to a couple of their games and saw others on ESPN+. I could honestly say that the crowd was so spread out that it wouldn’t fill up one side of the gym. Since a quarter of their 3200 capacity is 800, I can see that being the attendance for the night. Maybe they would get more if they didn’t charged $20 a general admission ticket.

Just couldn’t believe that this was a D1 program. STILL can’t believe that today as they played/ing teams with 22 K arenas last couple of weeks. I just hope that they will take advantage of the last couple of weeks for future use. I seriously doubt that will happen though.
Check the home attendance figures in the lower right section for each game at Run Baby Run Arena, the Peacocks home court. Most MAAC home games draw 400-500 fans each. It’s literally a family and friends crowd at home games.

All the more amazing considering what they have accomplished this season.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021–22_Saint_Peter%27s_Peacocks_basketball_team
 
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Free publicity. Their enrollment will pop big time. They’ll. Attract better students. I don’t know how much it will be worth but it will be a lot.

Publicity and media value can be measured and this kind of event can have a transformative, lasting impact mostly if it can be leveraged to unlock budget and alumni donations to make material changes earmarked specifically to address systemic underfunding.

Read this article and you will see what they are up against.

No Windfall Coming

We saw how Mulcahy & Schiano pushed through the stadium expansion on the heels of 2006- by using that as evidence of what athletics could do for school spirit and executing on a vision that was already underway.

St. Peter’s would be smart to get a campaign out there to both alum and the NJ basketball community effectively say the values that make private Jesuit education attractive still resonate beyond basketball and coaching = teaching = values.

On the national scale, NJs basketball’s impact on the college game could be traced back to Bobby Hurley being an alum. There’s no better time to piggy back on Duke’s/Coach Ks legacy to make this connection and the significance of Bobby Jr to the modern era of hoops.

They are not Gonzaga, Villanova, Georgetown or SHU, but the themes are there and the relationship between SHU & St P should be powerful in what is now in effect a minor-league feeder system.
 

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What does “…zero academic standards for sure based on the student body we saw coming in and out…” mean exactly?
I worked in Jersey City for a company that hired kids right out of St Pete’s. Must’ve met a couple dozen of them, from all races. Not a single brain among them. We used to joke about having to slow things down for them.
 

tico brown

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Check the home attendance figures in the lower right section for each game at Run Baby Run Arena, the Peacocks home court. Most MAAC home games draw 400-500 fans each. It’s literally a family and friends crowd at home games.

All the more amazing considering what they have accomplished this season.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021–22_Saint_Peter%27s_Peacocks_basketball_team
Maybe my guestimation was too high by a hundreds or two since I can’t count that high. But it probably was 400. Still proves that some schools has no business being in D1 in Football or baseball, esp when you have the worst facilities in D1, bar none. Which is a shame that admin will probably NOT put the money/ publicity back into the facilities or programs.

But still an amazing accomplishment by the kids and coaches on that basketball team nonetheless.
 

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I don’t get it. I’ve been there. I did a job with my buddy when I was out of work during CoVID and it was literally right outside the campus. Nothing special and zero academic standards for sure based on the student body that we saw coming in and out lol. How the F do they recruit outside of ‘graded don’t matter.” The SEC already does that.
Being a jerk comes naturally I see.
 

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What does “…zero academic standards for sure based on the student body we saw coming in and out…” mean exactly?

Granted, St. Peter's currently may not have the academic standards that some of the other schools in New Jersey have (based on average SAT), but the OP's comment is unfair and is obviously an unwarranted assumption.

Average SAT scores of some major NJ universities. per PrepScholar:

Princeton - 1505
Rutgers New Brunswick - 1300
NJIT - 1290
TCNJ - 1260
Seton Hall - 1231
Ramapo - 1150
Monmouth - 1130
FDU Madson - 1127
Richard Stockton - 1102
Rider - 1100
Rowan - 1095
Montclair State - 1086
St. Peter's - 1030
Kean University - 990
New Jersey City University - 961
 
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Granted, St. Peter's currently may not have the academic standards that some of the other schools in New Jersey have (based on average SAT), but the OP's comment is unfair and is obviously an unwarranted assumption.

Average SAT scores of some major NJ universities. per PrepScholar:

Princeton - 1505
Rutgers New Brunswick - 1300
NJIT - 1290
TCNJ - 1260
Seton Hall - 1231
Ramapo - 1150
Monmouth - 1130
FDU Madson - 1127
Richard Stockton - 1102
Rider - 1100
Rowan - 1095
Montclair State - 1086
St. Peter's - 1030
Kean University - 990
New Jersey City University - 961
I thought Rider was 499
 

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Granted, St. Peter's currently may not have the academic standards that some of the other schools in New Jersey have (based on average SAT), but the OP's comment is unfair and is obviously an unwarranted assumption.

Average SAT scores of some major NJ universities. per PrepScholar:

Princeton - 1505
Rutgers New Brunswick - 1300
NJIT - 1290
TCNJ - 1260
Seton Hall - 1231
Ramapo - 1150
Monmouth - 1130
FDU Madson - 1127
Richard Stockton - 1102
Rider - 1100
Rowan - 1095
Montclair State - 1086
St. Peter's - 1030
Kean University - 990
New Jersey City University - 961
Prep scholar isn't accurate look at the admissions profile. Average SAT at new Brunswick is higher than 1300.

https://admissions.camden.rutgers.edu/sites/default/files/2021-09/2021 Admissions Profile.pdf
UNDERGRADUATE ADMISSIONS PROFILE
 

AZBlues

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Prep scholar isn't accurate look at the admissions profile. Average SAT at new Brunswick is higher than 1300.

https://admissions.camden.rutgers.edu/sites/default/files/2021-09/2021 Admissions Profile.pdf
UNDERGRADUATE ADMISSIONS PROFILE
You may or may not be correct, but all I can see in your link are SAT score ranges for the middle 50% of high school students admitted to the different RU schools for Fall 2021.

I'm pretty tired today so if I'm not correct please help me out... But can we actually determine the average SAT score for Rutgers New Brunswick from the data in your link? We don't know the number of students included in each of the individual RU schools listed or whether the scores in each range skew toward the upper or lower number, and we don't know the scores for other students admitted at times other than Fall of 2021.

Another source in the link below states a 1295 average SAT for Rutgers NB, and US News and World Report's rankings state that half the applicants admitted to Rutgers New Brunswick have an SAT score between 1180 and 1410, making the midpoint in that range also 1295... Obviously the average SAT score that any source lists for a school will depend on exactly which data is used to determine the score, so possible variances are expected. If the site uses the same formula for determining the average SAT for every school though, then I think the comparison of schools is at least somewhat valid. Regardless, whether 1295, 1300, or a slightly higher number is most accurate as RU's average SAT score, RU looks pretty good academically.

https://www.collegetuitioncompare.c...rsity-new-brunswick/admission/#SAT-ACT-Scores
 

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You may or may not be correct, but all I can see in your link are SAT score ranges for the middle 50% of high school students admitted to the different RU schools for Fall 2021.

I'm pretty tired today so if I'm not correct please help me out... But can we actually determine the average SAT score for Rutgers New Brunswick from the data in your link? We don't know the number of students included in each of the individual RU schools listed or whether the scores in each range skew toward the upper or lower number, and we don't know the scores for other students admitted at times other than Fall of 2021.

Another source in the link below states a 1295 average SAT for Rutgers NB, and US News and World Report's rankings state that half the applicants admitted to Rutgers New Brunswick have an SAT score between 1180 and 1410, making the midpoint in that range also 1295... Obviously the average SAT score that any source lists for a school will depend on exactly which data is used to determine the score, so possible variances are expected. If the site uses the same formula for determining the average SAT for every school though, then I think the comparison of schools is at least somewhat valid. Regardless, whether 1295, 1300, or a slightly higher number is most accurate as RU's average SAT score, RU looks pretty good academically.

https://www.collegetuitioncompare.c...rsity-new-brunswick/admission/#SAT-ACT-Scores
Are these admitted or enrolled numbers?