Haarms Announcing Tomorrow

MdWIldcat55

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That says it all. Guy was afraid. He didn’t believe in himself, and so he’s better off in Mormon land playing mid-major ball then disappearing.
 

LowCountryCat

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Regardless of how this latest UK basketball recruiting saga works out, it is almost the last of April and we still have a need for one or even two front court guys and are basically scrambling to find someone or anyone. That is an undisputed fact--ideally, you would want to have your 2020-2021 roster set by now. It is not set. That is a little more than concerning when you're in that kind of desperation mode at this late date looking for the best available warm body despite having a gaping hole in your roster.

If true what I previously read, that Haarms is not seeking a high profile limelight, then, as we all know, UK is not a fit for him. However, our chances remain good if he is committed on winning a championship and also maximizing chances of getting to the NBA. I am also convinced that the so-called experts manning these positions in the cottage industry of recruiting prognosticators do not generally know any more than you or me. Our guess is as good as theirs.
You will recall that the gaping hole in our roster appeared rather late and really had no business appearing at all.
 
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Bratkartoffeln

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Still believe he is coming here
I don't frankly care about any of this business of predicting who comes or not. But, you involved yourself, and broadcast to the world "100% Kentucky" that can only mean one thing, that he's coming to Kentucky. Now, you say that you "still believe he is coming here." Do you see any problem with that? I certainly do. Again, I care less about someone coming here or not, but care a lot more about someone on here delivering the equivalent of fake news. If you do not know, it's best for all of us if you don't make brash statements.
 

Son_Of_Saul

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Somewhere Pitino is getting some amusement out of this: McCarty kicked us on the court and Pope kicked us off of it.

We all need to be calm on this one, man. It isn't like we're losing recruiting battles to schools like BYU, Washington, Florida, and Oregon.

We got this. We're Kentucky, where we're always going to be "fine" and "have enough."

Let's get someone out on the mid court and make the C-A-T-S sign! Cats-Cats-Cats! GooooOOO CATS!
 

GonzoCat90

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Haarms
McDaniels
Blackshear
Dante

We've sucked the last two summers.

You know, the initial negativity of this actually makes it pretty clear that it's probably not as big of a deal as it seems.

I don't think any of those guys drastically changes UK's fortunes. McDaniels would have been nice, but I'm not sure we're better with him than what EJ was giving us, especially if it had pushed Brooks to transfer instead of return.
 

tmuck

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I don't frankly care about any of this business of predicting who comes or not. But, you involved yourself, and broadcast to the world "100% Kentucky" that can only mean one thing, that he's coming to Kentucky. Now, you say that you "still believe he is coming here." Do you see any problem with that? I certainly do. Again, I care less about someone coming here or not, but care a lot more about someone on here delivering the equivalent of fake news. If you do not know, it's best for all of us if you don't make brash statements.
That poster smells like a troll to me after looking up his post history.
 

MidseasonTweak

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I don't frankly care about any of this business of predicting who comes or not. But, you involved yourself, and broadcast to the world "100% Kentucky" that can only mean one thing, that he's coming to Kentucky. Now, you say that you "still believe he is coming here." Do you see any problem with that? I certainly do. Again, I care less about someone coming here or not, but care a lot more about someone on here delivering the equivalent of fake news. If you do not know, it's best for all of us if you don't make brash statements.

There is no reason to take my word since I didn't have a source.
 
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MdWIldcat55

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Is that it?

Could it be that the kid just liked their sales pitch more?

Why disparage his personality? We have no idea what his thought process was.
Sure we do. He had an offer to play for a coaching staff that just turned Nick Richards from a project into a first rounder, and that had produced guys like Davis and Towns and Noel and Randle and Cousins and WCS and on and on.

Or he could play for a mid Major that gets on national TV twice in November and hasn’t produced an NBA big since Shawn Bradley.

So you take on the challenge and go for it or you take the easy road, then go play in Belgium.

The thought process is the same as the above average guitar player who gets a shot with a top national act, but decides to stay in Milwaukee. Or the promising scholar who gets invited for a semester try out at Harvard, but decides to stay at Cleveland State.

Some people don’t believe in themselves so they rationalize staying small time.
 

Son_Of_Saul

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Dave really has to stop posting. He has been so wrong so many times lately there is no credibility left.

And part of it is the posters who start threads that quote tweets from random people who are just guessing. Someone in the thread will lend the tweet some form of street cred and off we go, with the board igniting and BBN penciling in a kid we "really need"; then only to not land him and watch the same folks write, "we didn't really need him."

I hate the late-spring/early summer period. It's usually bad news regarding departures followed by a whole lot of "meh."
 

UK90

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He had an offer to play for a coaching staff that just turned Nick Richards from a project into a first rounder.

Where are you getting that Nick Richards is supposedly "a first rounder"? Not according to the mock drafts that I've seen.

And I might point out that Nick started out as a Five Star McD All American, which ain't exactly the place where "projects" typically begin. He was a disappointment his first two years, it took him three years to finally become the player folks thought he'd be when he started.
 

Son_Of_Saul

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Sure we do. He had an offer to play for a coaching staff that just turned Nick Richards from a project into a first rounder, and that had produced guys like Davis and Towns and Noel and Randle and Cousins and WCS and on and on.

Or he could play for a mid Major that gets on national TV twice in November and hasn’t produced an NBA big since Shawn Bradley.

So you take on the challenge and go for it or you take the easy road, then go play in Belgium.

The thought process is the same as the above average guitar player who gets a shot with a top national act, but decides to stay in Milwaukee. Or the promising scholar who gets invited for a semester try out at Harvard, but decides to stay at Cleveland State.

Some people don’t believe in themselves so they rationalize staying small time.

So did Marcus Camby "not believe in himself" when he chose flyweight Calipari and UMass back in the 90s over the established UConn Huskies? I'm certain he liked Cal's pitch better. There is this remarkable thing called "paradigm shifts" in a program, and they usually come when there's a competent coach in charge of a program. Mark Pope is that type of coach.

Thus, BYU has a newer coach who makes all of their former program ineptitude largely irrelevant. Haarms seems to have preferred their system more. None of the guys you mentioned at UK under Cal had a green light to do anything from the perimeter. Maybe that's what Haarms is looking for. Does that essentially mean he's an emotional cuck? No. Is it possible you're right? Maybe. We simply don't know.

But it is good to know that every year we're only losing kids because they're A. emotionally inept in that they don't believe in themselves B. taking cash or prizes from other schools or C. don't care about winning.

Every recruiting loss spawns the same narratives from one of these options.

Every.
Single.
Time.

Has Calipari ever lost a kid in a recruiting battle when the playing field was completely even?
 

Mime-Is-Money

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actually relieved with this news. Haarms is a bit of a stiff. Sure, a 7’3” stiff, but stiff nonetheless. I think we’ll get someone better once the temporary transfer rule goes into effect.

if not, we already have 3 guys that will be taking most of the shots. Haarms would have been some extra fouls.

And the puns all week were awful.
 

Kingslayer07

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He can worry about his damn hair somewhere else..you don't say you want to go somewhere to help you go to the pros and choose BYfnU! What a scrub...
 
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Where are you getting that Nick Richards is supposedly "a first rounder"? Not according to the mock drafts that I've seen.

And I might point out that Nick started out as a Five Star McD All American, which ain't exactly the place where "projects" typically begin. He was a disappointment his first two years, it took him three years to finally become the player folks thought he'd be when he started.
The kid didn’t even play basketball until 7 years ago. Rankings are based on two things, politics and potential and he had plenty as an athletic, 7’ player. Absolute project player unless you think 4 years of basketball in high school is all you need to hone your skills and dominate.
 
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Bill Withers

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You know, the initial negativity of this actually makes it pretty clear that it's probably not as big of a deal as it seems.

I don't think any of those guys drastically changes UK's fortunes. McDaniels would have been nice, but I'm not sure we're better with him than what EJ was giving us, especially if it had pushed Brooks to transfer instead of return.
I agree, and think this points to a larger problem: making late moves for inferior players.
 
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Bill Withers

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And part of it is the posters who start threads that quote tweets from random people who are just guessing. Someone in the thread will lend the tweet some form of street cred and off we go, with the board igniting and BBN penciling in a kid we "really need"; then only to not land him and watch the same folks write, "we didn't really need him."

I hate the late-spring/early summer period. It's usually bad news regarding departures followed by a whole lot of "meh."
Nailed it. Someone posts a tweet from random UK homer, next thing you know caneintally is giving complex breakdowns of the roster that are more involved than the chess game on Star Trek, with half the guys not even being on the roster. And at the end we are destined for 40-0.
 

Gassy_Knowls

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Nailed it. Someone posts a tweet from random UK homer, next thing you know caneintally is giving complex breakdowns of the roster that are more involved than the chess game on Star Trek, with half the guys not even being on the roster. And at the end we are destined for 40-0.

damn, if this ain’t the truth


Caneintally is delusional