Very few Felix Milan’s and Manny Mota’s around Bus.
In fairness to the modern hitters, we didn’t see anything even remotely resembling the arms these hitters face today... it’s crazy and no fun to hit.
OT: World Series
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In fairness to the modern hitters, we didn’t see anything even remotely resembling the arms these hitters face today... it’s crazy and no fun to hit.
Don Newcombe . I am 100 percent certain he lived in colonia New Jersey when he played for brooklyn. The Dodgers historian, langill, couldn’t figure this out and has been uncooperative . I sent him news links and he said don lived in elizabeth. He’s clueless or doesn’t care.
Mets guy horwitz was really cool, and basically said nothing he could do for me since Newcombe is still employed by the Dodgers. (Read between the lines)
Basically I want to confirm the location of where Newcombe lived, I think it may be a bank now ; and get it registered historically by Woodbridge township. Maybe even get a ceremony , but I can’t get any cooperation from anyone.
We know he was raised in Elizabeth and went to Jefferson High School.
Relative to commuting to Brooklyn before the Verrazano was built, was it feasible to live in Colonia and make that drive every day?
Yes, just google don newcombe colonia.
This was something the Dodgers historian could not master.
There is one notable article how he got bombed in game 7 in 1957 and drove back to Colonia. Lots of other stuff too.
Ok , 1956.
I think after 1957 the team left for la.
Any advice on how to get this done while Newcombe is still alive?
Actually the commercials are not the primary reason that games take longer nowadays. The major reason is that pitchers are working a lot more slowly than they used to.
I've linked an article which compares two games with almost identical game flows, one from 1984 and one from 2014. The 2014 game took 35 minutes longer. The author reviewed the tapes and concluded that the 2014 pitchers held the ball, on average, nine seconds longer per pitch than in 1984. That adds up.
https://www.sbnation.com/a/mlb-2017-season-preview/game-length
Respectfully disagree. Buckner's error was entirely unforced. Kinsler made a good backhand stop of a hand hit ball, and then slipped through no fault of his own. Maybe he should have held the ball, but Puig was not that far down the line, and it was reasonable for Kinsler to think he still had time to get Puig and win the game.
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No one except some old timers in the town of Colonia can help you.
How on the world would anyone have that info ?
There’s no reason a few lifers in the town of Colonia couldn’t show you where he lived.
Jay Horowitz and current Dodger front office would be clueless.
It would be like me calling the Yankees today and asking them if they know Tony Kubek’s address from 1956.
Someone in that town knows where he lived, and or what the location has turned into
Puig can fly so as an old infielder. I can tell you we were very aware of our runners.
When you’ve got that I’ve gotta get rid of this ball fast mentality it can lead to some silly throws
The whole point would be to get in touch with Newcombe and have him and/or his family invoked in historically marking the site.
He can’t know or have any comment on it since Newcombe is on then dodgers payroll .
I lived in Pittsburgh for eight years in several different locations, off hand I couldn’t tell you one old address.
Unless Newcombe raised his family and considered Colonia his home, like my dad did Montclair, I doubt the residence would be significant to him.
If he lived there for one season, there’s not a chance in hell old Newk would remember
From 1955-1958, there were four straight series that went seven games. The road team won the 7th game each time.
I was very small, but I recall my mother ironing in the basement that day. She was a Dodger fan (she was raised in Brooklyn), and not happy at all.
I was just suggesting that Jay could possible have some advice on which direction he should be looking, since he is very personable and a jersey guy as well...
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From what I found he lived there from at least 1950 to when he left for LA. Good morning America visited the family there and televised after they won in 1955. In a 1976 ny times article, he talked about his bouts with alcohol and living in colonia.
I would think his residence then would be noteworthy from a historical standpoint since it seemed like he lived there for a good portion of his days with brooklyn? He had a great career and was the first black pitcher to start a World Series game and he was the reigning triple crown winner until Verlander. If I am barking up the wrong tree here and it’s not noteworthy, please let me know . I actually would think it would be more noteworthy then Richie sambora’s Woodbridge residence. How do I get this done? There has to be an agent or something that can help?
And in 1956, it was yogi that had the big first inning homer off Newk!
You're certainly right, but it still looked like a do-able throw even after Kinsler had slipped. But perhaps he should have remembered that the important thing was to make sure the runner moving to third did not score, and that it was better to hold the ball than to risk a bad throw.
I actually thought at the time that Cora erred by pitching to Puig. Yes, I know you're not supposed to intentionally walk the potential winning run, but Barnes scares me a lot less than Puig.
Yogi had a thing for 7th game home runs. He hit 7th game homers not only in 1956, but also in 1958 and 1960. The one in 1960 gave the Yankees what looked like a safe lead, but then the Pirates came back.
You don't think Buckner was a little forced since he knew it was a slow roller, Mookie was fast and he had that bad ankle and getting to the bag would be a problem???
There’s no question Billy took his eye off the ball to check the runner
My dad and Elston would talk about the 60 series all the time, both of them always said if Jim Coates cover first base on Clement’s slow roller, they win.
That sets up the bad hop double play ball that almost takes off Kubek’s Head
And your Dad and Elston Howard were completely correct. The irony is that Coats (I think there's no e) was brought in to relieve Bobby Shantz, who was an excellent fielder. I believe the ground ball hit Kubek in the Adam's Apple; were it not for the bad hop, it would have been a dead double play ball. I'm not surprised that your Dad and Howard talked a lot about the 60 series; such a disappointment that the Yankees did not win it, despite the team's slugging (led by Bobby Richardson, of all people) and Whitey Ford's pitching. I've always thought Stengel made a mistake by not pitching Ford in the opening game, although I do realize that Ford had a subpar (12-9) year that season.
You have a point, but Kinsler at least fielded the ball with a good play.
I can still hear my dad use baseball vernacular when discussing the series with an old teammate.
”Damn Coates didn’t get over”
I don't know why, since I never came close to meeting him, but somehow I'm not surprised that he was mean.
Mets spent big on two guys who didn't play. $29 million on Cespedes and $20 on Wright. Without that their payroll is actually quite small.
The Dodgers have drawn over 3 million fans in 18 out of the last 20 seasons. That's not a market that doesn't care.