OT: Electric vehicles

[T2Kplus20]

I guess as a Mustang guy, SVO…I just don’t see it.

Lee Iacocca might agree.

EV Mustang = Unamerican
(just like it having a turbo-4)

 

[Smols]

I guess as a Mustang guy, SVO…I just don’t see it.

Lee Iacocca might agree.

I had a 5.0L REAL mustang back in the day. My favorite car of all time. Kids came and it wasn't practical. IDK why Ford chose to use the mustang brand as their EV. But, I really like it.

 

[Rutgers Chris]

I had a 5.0L REAL mustang back in the day. My favorite car of all time. Kids came and it wasn't practical. IDK why Ford chose to use the mustang brand as their EV. But, I really like it.

Amazing how many people who actually have EV’s like them.

 

[RUDiddy777]

I had a 5.0L REAL mustang back in the day. My favorite car of all time. Kids came and it wasn't practical. IDK why Ford chose to use the mustang brand as their EV. But, I really like it.

Could just be the 3.3 second 0-60.

 

[Bueller]

People in Germany apoplectic over BMW threatening to cripple their cars speed is they dont start using battery more. This is what the heavy handers want AI for.

https://www.autoblog.com/news/bmw-wants-plug-in-hybrid-owners-punished-for-not-charging-enough

• BMW proposes punishing PHEV owners who don’t regularly charge their vehicles.
• Possible measures include reducing engine power if batteries aren’t routinely charged.
• The plan aims to boost BMW’s carbon credits, raising privacy and customer control concerns.

Here is a gal who lives in Germany

 

[Rutgers Chris]

People in Germany apoplectic over BMW threatening to cripple their cars speed is they dont start using battery more. This is what the heavy handers want AI for.

https://www.autoblog.com/news/bmw-wants-plug-in-hybrid-owners-punished-for-not-charging-enough

• BMW proposes punishing PHEV owners who don’t regularly charge their vehicles.
• Possible measures include reducing engine power if batteries aren’t routinely charged.
• The plan aims to boost BMW’s carbon credits, raising privacy and customer control concerns.

Here is a gal who lives in Germany

Germany…

 

[RUDiddy777]

People in Germany apoplectic over BMW threatening to cripple their cars speed is they dont start using battery more. This is what the heavy handers want AI for.

https://www.autoblog.com/news/bmw-wants-plug-in-hybrid-owners-punished-for-not-charging-enough

• BMW proposes punishing PHEV owners who don’t regularly charge their vehicles.
• Possible measures include reducing engine power if batteries aren’t routinely charged.
• The plan aims to boost BMW’s carbon credits, raising privacy and customer control concerns.

Here is a gal who lives in Germany

They could just get a different car. If they don’t generate carbon credits, then BMW has to buy them. I’d imagine the PHEV sales price is probably discounted.

 

[Rutgers Chris]

The amount of crow that should be eaten from some this thread is breathtaking:

Tesla Robotaxi Austin Safety Record: What NHTSA Data Shows

Nearly a year into Tesla's Robotaxi service in Austin, the federal safety record is in — and it's more nuanced than either critics or boosters typically acknowledge. NHTSA crash data covering July 2025 through March 2026 shows 17 total reported incidents, zero major crashes, and only 6 minor...

www.basenor.com

 

[Jtung230]

The amount of crow that should be eaten from some this thread is breathtaking:

Tesla Robotaxi Austin Safety Record: What NHTSA Data Shows

Nearly a year into Tesla's Robotaxi service in Austin, the federal safety record is in — and it's more nuanced than either critics or boosters typically acknowledge. NHTSA crash data covering July 2025 through March 2026 shows 17 total reported incidents, zero major crashes, and only 6 minor...

www.basenor.com

The article says these robotaxi all have human monitors in them.

 

[Rutgers Chris]

The article says these robotaxi all have human monitors in them.

One country heard from

 

[Jtung230]

One country heard from

Why did you put the TKR jinx on it?

Family sues Tesla after woman killed by vehicle allegedly in self-driving mode

The family of a woman who was killed when a Tesla crashed into her home while allegedly in self-driving mode is suing the automaker and the driver for damages.

abcnews.com

 

[Rutgers Chris]

Why did you put the TKR jinx on it?

Family sues Tesla after woman killed by vehicle allegedly in self-driving mode

The family of a woman who was killed when a Tesla crashed into her home while allegedly in self-driving mode is suing the automaker and the driver for damages.

abcnews.com

1. Not a robotaxi and

2. I wonder if you read the link you posted.

“Ashok Elluswamy, Tesla's head of AI, responded to Musk's post on X, claiming the self-driving mode was manually overridden.

"Yup. In this case, the driver manually overrode self-driving by pressing the accelerator all the way to 100% of the accel pedal in this residential area. They reached a speed of 73 mph during the crash, and had the accelerator pressed even after the crash," he posted.”

 

[Jtung230]

1. Not a robotaxi and

2. I wonder if you read the link you posted.

“Ashok Elluswamy, Tesla's head of AI, responded to Musk's post on X, claiming the self-driving mode was manually overridden.

"Yup. In this case, the driver manually overrode self-driving by pressing the accelerator all the way to 100% of the accel pedal in this residential area. They reached a speed of 73 mph during the crash, and had the accelerator pressed even after the crash," he posted.”

1. Is robotaxi using different software?

2. Not surprised they denied it. Have they ever come out and said it was their fault?

 

[Rutgers Chris]

1. Is robotaxi using different software?

2. Not surprised they denied it. Have they ever come out and said it was their fault?

1. Yes. Depending on the year, which hasn’t been reported, different hardware too.

2. Pretty easy to deny in a case where the accelerator was pushed to 100%.

Funny that you post an article like this trying to detract from robotaxi when in this case if it was a robotaxi and not a human/model 3, this accident doesn’t happen. Poor woman/family, I hope they win the legitimate part of the suit against the driver at fault.

 

[Rutgers Chris]

Man I miss the conversations here about how Lidar was necessary for safety and Tesla was insane for not using it

 

[Jtung230]

Man I miss the conversations here about how Lidar was necessary for safety and Tesla was insane for not using it

Does Waymo still use Lidar? Didn’t they just get cited for being safer than drivers?

 

[Rutgers Chris]

Does Waymo still use Lidar? Didn’t they just get cited for being safer than drivers?

They do, but they’re also geofenced. And yes, plenty of data showing they’re safer than humans. It’s pretty obvious all forms of self driving will end up being safer, regardless of the system used.

 

[Jtung230]

They do, but they’re also geofenced. And yes, plenty of data showing they’re safer than humans. It’s pretty obvious all forms of self driving will end up being safer, regardless of the system used.

Isn’t all FSD geofenced? I think Waymo is the only one that truly operates full driverless.

 

[Rutgers Chris]

Isn’t all FSD geofenced? I think Waymo is the only one that truly operates full driverless.

Poor labeling here which Tesla has been criticized for. Tesla’s FSD is supervised but not geo fenced. All of the driverless options (Waymo, Tesla, zook) are all level 4- driverless and geo fenced. No one has achieved level 5, which would remove fencing.

I’m at about 90% self driving now. You can see it being safer relative to following distance, lane changes, etc. There’s times I have to fight the urge to make a move to save me an unnecessary 3 seconds. It’s becoming less of an issue with experience and age.