Moreno Interview

[anot]

doubt we'll find much to bet on, my brother. Maybe something like "will we lose by 20 or 30?" . I was referring to the pumpers -- KYFOSSIL was the only one who put something behind the rosy talk. Here's another idea for a bet if the pumpers want to bite -- Will Alex Wilkins ever be a first round draft pick? Anyone for 100?

And freel -- Pope's gonna resurrect ice age creatures from frozen DNA in hopes of filling out the roster, then they'll spend 5 minutes with him and go commit to some other school.

Always knew Popes medical school was brought up for a reason. We've finally figured it out. Put it to use Pope.

 

[battle_cats]

Moreno is about to make a big career mistake. One more year in college and he can develop and be a high first rounder. He is NOT even close to ready for the NBA. I get it's the dream, but some of these guys need some truth tellers to keep them grounded. Wish him well whatever path he takes, but man I see this as a really bad career move if he goes this early. Being drafted on POTENTIAL, rarely keeps you in the league long. There are exceptions so maybe he will be one of them...

 

[anot]

Moreno is about to make a big career mistake. One more year in college and he can develop and be a high first rounder. He is NOT even close to ready for the NBA. I get it's the dream, but some of these guys need some truth tellers to keep them grounded. Wish him well whatever path he takes, but man I see this as a really bad career move if he goes this early. Being drafted on POTENTIAL, rarely keeps you in the league long. There are exceptions so maybe he will be one of them...

The way I look at it...if he's being drafted on potential...how does him coming back and playing college players benefit him more than playing against pros every day?

If he gets a first round pick this year or even a high second round how is that a career mistake when no matter what he will probably never be a top ten pick regardless if he stays or goes.

If he was my son I would say you better get your butt to the NBA because tomorrow isn't promised. Come back to college and risk injury or something? Why do people always think if you come back to college that automatically boosts your draft spot up 20 spots?

There's a chance he doesn't even get drafted next year. This concept always confuses me. I think people look at it from a fan perspective and not from what a person is putting into their thought process.

 

[anot]

doubt we'll find much to bet on, my brother. Maybe something like "will we lose by 20 or 30?" . I was referring to the pumpers -- KYFOSSIL was the only one who put something behind the rosy talk. Here's another idea for a bet if the pumpers want to bite -- Will Alex Wilkins ever be a first round draft pick? Anyone for 100?

And freel -- Pope's gonna resurrect ice age creatures from frozen DNA in hopes of filling out the roster, then they'll spend 5 minutes with him and go commit to some other school.

 

[MichaelGray]

Ev

Are they really? Find it odd that a McDAA would be "close" to a career mid major ceiling coach. If that is indeed the case, more power to him, but if I were him I would be disappointed at the horrible situation the staff has put him in, 2 years now, whiffing on every elite player that could have made him look better.

Everything I've read seems to point that way. Moreno needs to work on his own to get better rather than expecting good players to make him look better, NBA scouts see when it's your game or others making you better.

 

[20MRoster]

Everything I've read seems to point that way. Moreno needs to work on his own to get better rather than expecting good players to make him look better, NBA scouts see when it's your game or others making you better.

Fair point but a) NBA scouts are not infallible (look at the number of awful draft picks each year) and b) the people you play with make a huge difference in how you develop and perception of your game. Look at the entire teams Cal got drafted. Kentucky effect was real. And those guys succeeded at a high rate, way higher than Self's blue chippers. Either Cal is twice the talent evaluator of anyone in history, or something about playing with other great players helped the individual development.

 

[MichaelGray]

Fair point but a) NBA scouts are not infallible (look at the number of awful draft picks each year) and b) the people you play with make a huge difference in how you develop and perception of your game. Look at the entire teams Cal got drafted. Kentucky effect was real. And those guys succeeded at a high rate, way higher than Self's blue chippers. Either Cal is twice the talent evaluator of anyone in history, or something about playing with other great players helped the individual development.

MichaelGray said:


Calipari stacked the talent so that practices were a competition. I heard him say this once & I'm gonna paraphrase but it's close & he used it as a recruiting pitch, obviously it
worked. "I tell recruits this, do you wanna go to a school & be the best player on the team or go to a school where everyone is as good as you & compete to get better"? He went on to tell them that being the best player wouldn't harden a player for the NBA like competition in college will.


Which brings up your point about Moreno probably not thinking there's enough talent on next year's roster. I'll say this, you can't use the Calipari "competition" thing in recruiting now, players just wanna go where they can get the most minutes & money. If Moreno comes back & I think he is, big Franck will definitely get him ready for the physical part in the SEC, that dude is built like a tank, Garrison played like a ***** last year & gave him no challenge in practice most likely.

 

[bigblueinsanity (the real)]

This dude walked into Lexington as a promising in‑state big…and walked out of Year 1 looking like a first‑round prototype who doesn’t even need to scrimmage at the Combine because the NBA already knows what time it is! That’s Pope’s system doing exactly what it was designed to!

This will pay MASSIVE recruiting dividends in Year 4 Pope!

I know this is satire/sarcasm but it's actually true. If players, especially bigs in this system, see this level of development and success it will help recruiting bigs which is the key position in this system.

Unfortunately recruiting is so bad, losing Moreno will be so devastating its doubtful Pope gets any more time to enjoy the bump this would give him.

 

[UKFootball78]

What do you mean? The roster is great. I’ve read that on here for weeks. You must be such a miserable person, with no friends. Negative, negative, negative.

Where have you read the roster is great? I've not seen anyone post that. Just another example of taking someone's non-negative view and exaggerating what was actually said, to make rational posters look delusional.

 

[kyjeff1]

He also is about to go pro for less money so maybe so maybe not.

Right, but you said he didn't want to play for Pope. That's false, he signed a deal to play for UK if he didn't go pro.
If he goes pro, that's not a bad look on Pope, dude is going to the NBA

 

[anot]

Right, but you said he didn't want to play for Pope. That's false, he signed a deal to play for UK if he didn't go pro.
If he goes pro, that's not a bad look on Pope, dude is going to the NBA

I never said it was a bad look for Pope. If you go through one of these threads I have said that it's a good thing.

And just because Moreno signed a contract doesn't mean he likes playing for Pope. You can assume sure. Maybe Moreno is a Kentucky boy and likes playing for Kentucky regardless of who the coach is. I've also stated several reasons in this thread in one of the Moreno threads.

 

[gobigblue812_rivals29381]

Yeah if he leaves I won't bother watching next season as it will be a bloodbath for UK.

If you don't watch, will you still post?

 

[TheResistance]

 

[TheResistance]

Can Miami guarantee enough for MM with pick #41?

 

[kyjeff1]

The way I look at it...if he's being drafted on potential...how does him coming back and playing college players benefit him more than playing against pros every day?

If he gets a first round pick this year or even a high second round how is that a career mistake when no matter what he will probably never be a top ten pick regardless if he stays or goes.

If he was my son I would say you better get your butt to the NBA because tomorrow isn't promised. Come back to college and risk injury or something? Why do people always think if you come back to college that automatically boosts your draft spot up 20 spots?

There's a chance he doesn't even get drafted next year. This concept always confuses me. I thinks people look at it from a fan perspective and not from what a person is putting into their thought process.

Because he's going to end up in the G League and his odds if getting a 2nd contract, will be slim to none. He stands a very good chance of being a career G League guy.

It’s the 2nd contract that brings the big bucks.

This isn’t 10 years ago when the GL was a better option. He’s going to make 3 or 4 million at UK next year. If you're not a guaranteed first rounder with a guaranteed deal, you need to be careful here. The GL is not a good place to end up.

His NBA deal will be better next year, or at least the same. Get that college payday while you can.

 

[BigBluefoot]

Not strong enough yet to handle the physicality of college, much less pros.
This is absurd.

 

[TheResistance]

Well it may be that the Heat are looking to trade down from #13 in Round 1 to a later pick. I hope it isn't setting up for Moreno to be picked late first round.

 

[kyjeff1]

I never said it was a bad look for Pope. If you go through one of these threads I have said that it's a good thing.

And just because Moreno signed a contract doesn't mean he likes playing for Pope. You can assume sure. Maybe Moreno is a Kentucky boy and likes playing for Kentucky regardless of who the coach is. I've also stated several reason in this thread or one of the Moreno threads.

You’re all over the place. You say so many different things, then end up walking some of them back.

I never said anything about a bad look for Pope, even though that’s what you obviously hinted at.

You said "even Moreno doesn’t want to play for Pope" and that's what I replied to.

 

[anot]

You’re all over the place. You say so many different things, then end up walking some of them back.

I never said anything about a bad look for Pope, even though that’s what you obviously hinted at.

You said "even Moreno doesn’t want to play for Pope" and that's what I replied to.

Actually you're making stuff up once again to try and make me look bad but I haven't deleted anything. Everything Ive said is still there.


I said Moreno doesn't want to play for Pope. That in no way is me saying him going pro is a bad look for Pope. Nobodys all over the place but you.

 

[anot]

Because he's going to end up in the G League and his odds if getting a 2nd contract, will be slim to none. He stands a very good chance of being a career G League guy.

It’s the 2nd contract that brings the big bucks.

This isn’t 10 years ago when the GL was a better option. He’s going to make 3 or 4 million at UK next year. If you're not a guaranteed first rounder with a guaranteed deal, you need to be careful here. The GL is not a good place to end up.

His NBA deal will be better next year, or at least the same. Get that college payday while you can.

Once again your opinion. You don't know at all if he will be in the G League. You don't seem to know how the NBA works.

Would you like to put a friendly wager that Moreno gets drafted and is on a NBA roster the entire season next year?

 

[kyjeff1]

Actually you're making stuff up once again to try and make me look bad but I haven't deleted anything. Everything Ive said is still there.


I said Moreno doesn't want to play for Pope. That in no way is me saying him going pro is a bad look for Pope. Nobodys all over the place but you.

Actually, what you said was: "Been saying he's gone. Nobody wants to play for Pope"

You said it and you meant it the exact way it sounds. It’s fine, just own it. You posted that comment to take another swipe at Pope and you're the one that looks like a fool. Just own it.

Since yiu made that comment, you've been trying to make it seem like you meant it a different way, you didn’t. You lumped MM in with all the recruits that went elsewhere, because you cant control your emotions. Just own it.

 

[anot]

LOL, read the bolded part again. You said it and you meant it the exact way it sounds. It’s fine, just own it. You posted that comment to take another swipe at Pope and you're the one that looks like a fool. Just own it.

Moreno doesn't want to play for Pope. Ok that's one thing.....



Now come down here to something separate.. ...Moreno going pro isn't a bad look for Pope.


Can somebody besides crazy Jeff interfere here and tell me if y'all think those two things contradict.

 

[kyjeff1]

Once again your opinion. You don't know at all if he will be in the G League. You don't seem to know how the NBA works.

Would you like to put a friendly wager that Moreno gets drafted and is on a NBA roster the entire season next year?

Uh, it's not an opinion and that's exactly how the NBA works. Have you been living under a rock?

MM isn’t going to just be placed on an NBA roster.in his current state, he’s going to go to the GL to develop and from there, he will need to earn a spot on an NBA roster.

That is how it works, MM isn’t close to ready for NBA play. Get a clue man.

 

[anot]

Uh, it's not an opinion and that's exactly how the NBA works. Have you been living under a rock?

MM isn’t going to just be placed on an NBA roster.in his current state, he’s going to go to the GL to develop and from there, he will need to earn a spot on an NBA roster.

That is how it works, MM isn’t close to ready for NBA play. Get a clue man.

Ok that's why I said put a friendly wager on it. I promise I'll Cash app you a little 25 bucks if your right. It's so weird to say what you say like it's facts. You don't have a clue man.

 

[kyjeff1]

Moreno doesn't want to play for Pope. Ok that's one thing.....

but you denied you said it, just own it. You tried to rub your balls on Pope's face and you thought others would LIKE your post, but it backfired and you have since tried to walk.it back. #fail

Now come down here to something separate.. ...Moreno going pro isn't a bad look for Pope.

Correct, it's actually a very good look for Pope, but this isn't what you said.

Can somebody besides crazy Jeff interfere here and tell me if y'all think those two things contradict.

Nobody is coming to your rescue, in fact, several have called you out. You said what you said, just own it.

 

[kyjeff1]

Ok that's why I said put a friendly wager on it. I promise I'll Cash app you a little 25 bucks if your right. It's so weird to say what you say like it's facts. You don't have a clue man.

LOL, wtf man. No.

You’re talking to a guy that spent a week in vegas and never gambled a nickel.

 

[anot]

Uh, it's not an opinion and that's exactly how the NBA works. Have you been living under a rock?

MM isn’t going to just be placed on an NBA roster.in his current state, he’s going to go to the GL to develop and from there, he will need to earn a spot on an NBA roster.

That is how it works, MM isn’t close to ready for NBA play. Get a clue man.

but you denied you said it, just own it. You tried to rub your balls on Pope's face and you thought others would LIKE your post, but it backfired and you have since tried to walk.it back. #fail

Correct, it's actually a very good look for Pope, but this isn't what you said.

Nobody is coming to your rescue, in fact, several have called you out. You said what you said, just own it.

I didn't deny anything. Dude you are seriously creepy. Like seriously.

 

[anot]

but you denied you said it, just own it. You tried to rub your balls on Pope's face and you thought others would LIKE your post, but it backfired and you have since tried to walk.it back. #fail

Correct, it's actually a very good look for Pope, but this isn't what you said.

Nobody is coming to your rescue, in fact, several have called you out. You said what you said, just own it.

I said Moreno doesn't want to play for Pope. I said it. I said it. I said it...



I said Moreno going pro would be good for Pope. I also said that.

 

[WeWant9]

If Moreno didn't like/didn't want to play for Pope, he would've also entered the portal while testing draft waters- like others have done. With that said, Moreno could look at the offseason moves that UK has made and say nah, I am not dealing with that next season and goes to whoever is willing to draft him.

 

[MegaBlue05]

Can we maybe wait for him to announce he’s staying in the draft before going on suicide watch?

Jeez, y’all.

 

[AJG-15]

MM poor stamina and conditioning is the reason why he is not participate in 5 on 5. We all seen all season his production drops significantly after he plays more than 4 minutes. Smart decision on his part. He indirectly admits it in his interview.

 

[AJG-15]

Even if MM returns UK will need another center. MM can only play 20 minutes at high level. Franck Kepnang with his injury history will not be able to carry The remaining 20 min the whole season. RP and ON’D are a non factor at 5.

If MM goes to nba , UK needs 2 more centers.

Otherwise, the Center position is going to become the PG position from last year due to poor planning from MP.

 

[AJG-15]

By the way , SF position is also uncovered even with Momcilovic coming, which will not happen. KW is injury prone and Noah is a non factor.


UK also needs another shooting guard.


its a shame that MP chose to give too many roster spots to players will not contribute: RP, Noah, the brother, the son….instead of actually covering the roster needs.

the only positions well covered , quantity and quality, are PG and PF.

SG, SF, C need help both on quality and quantity.

 

[AJG-15]

Even if MM returns UK will need another center. MM can only play 20 minutes at high level. Franck Kepnang with his injury history will not be able to carry The remaining 20 min the whole season. RP and ON’D are a non factor at 5.

If MM goes to nba , UK needs 2 more centers.

Otherwise, the Center position is going to become the PG position from last year due to poor planning from MP.

 

[BBNSZN914]

Even if MM returns UK will need another center. MM can only play 20 minutes at high level. Franck Kepnang with his injury history will not be able to carry The remaining 20 min the whole season. RP and ON’D are a non factor at 5.

If MM goes to nba , UK needs 2 more centers.

Otherwise, the Center position is going to become the PG position from last year due to poor planning from MP.

Centers, cheeseburgers and martinis- 4 is definitely too many.

 

[Bluetick2100]

Yeah if he leaves I won't bother watching next season as it will be a bloodbath for UK.

PROMISE?

 

[cornbreadnmilk]

PROMISE?

All there is when Pope is questioned is attacks on other posters. It's all people like you have which tells me all I need to know about Pope's future. Sad.

 

[TheResistance]

 

[BlueBloodKyFan72]

Ev
Everything I've read seems to point that way. Moreno needs to work on his own to get better rather than expecting good players to make him look better, NBA scouts see when it's your game or others making you better.

I just don’t see him staying in the draft. Skipped the 5x5 and agility drills.

 

[KYFOSSIL]

I never said it was a bad look for Pope. If you go through one of these threads I have said that it's a good thing.

And just because Moreno signed a contract doesn't mean he likes playing for Pope. You can assume sure. Maybe Moreno is a Kentucky boy and likes playing for Kentucky regardless of who the coach is. I've also stated several reasons in this thread in one of the Moreno threads.

But why I make the assumption he doesn't like playing for Pope. I have a question. It's not just for you. It's for all the people that's saying players. Don't like playing for Pope or that he's weird who is actually stated that. I mean other than a discarded uncle for Johnson who else has said that. Versus all the players that have said positive things about Pope. I believe there may be some recruits that I've had issues with them, but I haven't heard it from people that I've actually played for him. That's a narrative that has been made up and spread like wildfire.