Montgomery is a liability
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Yeah God forbid someone post an opinion you don't agree with.
how many times did he get beat on defense? How many times after missing an easy shot was he beaten back down court by a guard dribbling the ball & get a layup or fouled? Since he was thinking NBA, how could he not be more dominant against NAIA competition?
The overwhelming majority of posts said IF, IF he doesn’t show more...
Your post epitomezes the RR posters that turn any critical analysis into hyperboles and strawman arguments.
LOL, "our team must improve", well duhhhh, so does everyone else.
Do you think Michigan State is going to be in March form when we play them?
Everyone has to get better, but you know what, even though we're thinner in the FC than we would like, we still have a lot to work with, more than most. We have a stable of guards and forwards that can easily make up the difference.
Lastly and probably the biggest point to make, the rotations you will see against MSU will not be the same. Cal was trying different things yesterday, he wasn't concerned with what Georgetown was doing. That changes when the games are real.
I look forward to this game against MSU, they have the advantage in the paint, but even though they have Cassius Winston, we have guards that are quicker, taller and bigger. We also have more of them.
I believe our shooting can match theirs with this team. Quickly v Winston is the matchup I want to see. Quickly is on a tear right now and appears to be our best guard at the moment. He makes fewer mistakes and shoots the ball really well.
We have a lot of weapons.
The "it's only the first game" argument really doesn't apply.
When people have concerns about EJ, it's not based on some exhibition game but rather on his entire body of work since coming to UK.
Having said that, if players are going to make jumps, they usually make the biggest jump between the 1st and 2nd year so I have confidence EJ can be a productive player for us.
When people have concerns about EJ, it's not based on some exhibition game but rather on his entire body of work since coming to UK.
Having said that, if players are going to make jumps, they usually make the biggest jump between the 1st and 2nd year so I have confidence EJ can be a productive player for us.
For all of you complaining about EJ I have a question, did you ever have a bad dad and have you ever play the game. As many have pointed out it's an exhibition game. Film will be looked things corrected. Plus a lot of new players and teammates to learn to play with. We will be fine.
I think it MIGHT be a long season for EJ . Mainly because he's the square peg in a round hole . We are desperate for beef and a strong inside guy or two . Its our obvious weakness and we really want EJ to be a stop gap inside. But he's a total finesse player , doesnt like to beat n bang and gets pushed around pretty easy . Put him on a team with a strong 4 and 5 and he might look fantastic . But if we think he's going to hold up as an interior player its going to be a frustrating year for him and us ( fans)
Boy the ole' " have you ever played the game" is getting thrown out there a ton on this thread . Not many , if any , is stating EJ is useless and done for the year . Many stated he looked pretty damn mundane out there against far inferior competition , which was obvious . People state some truth on here and many just freak totally out .
EJ will be fine this season. He has a heap of expectations placed on him this season and he has worked hard improving his body. This was his first game this season playing at Rupp and a lot of the players, I'm sure' were over-hyped up including Whitney. Watching him warm-up before the game, you can see the immense talent he has being a 6'11" player.
I'm sure the same people here complaining about Montgomery would be complaining about past players such as Hayes, Daniels, Magloire, etc when comparing Montgomery's stats to these others players their freshman year...
Heck, even Willie didn't make a leap until after his sophomore year...
I'm sure the same people here complaining about Montgomery would be complaining about past players such as Hayes, Daniels, Magloire, etc when comparing Montgomery's stats to these others players their freshman year...
Heck, even Willie didn't make a leap until after his sophomore year...
This is pretty much the sort of thing that gets fans shocked at outcomes. You just mention names. I'm much more concerned about team defense. Passing skills. You know things that'll win the game for us.
I think much of the disappointment with EJ is that many have unrealistic expectations for him. He is a decent athlete, can handle the ball reasonably well for a big guy, has good timing on defense, and his shot doesn't look bad. Many hope those things translate into something on the court against D-I talent. Sometimes it doesn't.
After seeing Poythress his freshman year I'd have bet that he was going to be an AA by his junior year if he stayed that long. Some people just don't have what it takes between the ears to reach the potential their physical traits tease. And it has nothing to do with intelligence. I played with many athletic people that were really smart, but when having to make decisions at game-time speed they really struggled. Some folks are instinctive and reactionary, which makes all the difference in events that are decided by fractions of a second. The greatest players are the ones that have the physical tools, instincts and intelligence. But they are rare. Kareem, LeBron, Kobe, Jordan, Magic, Bird, Hakeem, Shaq, etc.
Best thing to do is root for the kid and not expect much more from him. Cal likes to recruit as many kids as he can that are good citizens that will do the university proud. Some of those are going to be passive by nature and not be what we hope them to be on the court. That list will be added to each year so we might as well get used to it.
With all of that being said I will be yelling at EJ everytime he gets boxed out by a smaller player or when Nick is totally out of position on defense, as these things will happen regularly this season.[laughing][laughing] Those two are not going to become something they are not.
After seeing Poythress his freshman year I'd have bet that he was going to be an AA by his junior year if he stayed that long. Some people just don't have what it takes between the ears to reach the potential their physical traits tease. And it has nothing to do with intelligence. I played with many athletic people that were really smart, but when having to make decisions at game-time speed they really struggled. Some folks are instinctive and reactionary, which makes all the difference in events that are decided by fractions of a second. The greatest players are the ones that have the physical tools, instincts and intelligence. But they are rare. Kareem, LeBron, Kobe, Jordan, Magic, Bird, Hakeem, Shaq, etc.
Best thing to do is root for the kid and not expect much more from him. Cal likes to recruit as many kids as he can that are good citizens that will do the university proud. Some of those are going to be passive by nature and not be what we hope them to be on the court. That list will be added to each year so we might as well get used to it.
With all of that being said I will be yelling at EJ everytime he gets boxed out by a smaller player or when Nick is totally out of position on defense, as these things will happen regularly this season.[laughing][laughing] Those two are not going to become something they are not.
Nah baby my dad was great guy and yes I played the game.
After meeting EJ last year in the Bahamas while standing in line he’s a really laid back Prince like player. He’s not as talented as Prince and the confident level isn’t there yet either. But he does have talent, it’s really going to be how much of a burn does he have in his gut to succeed. I do hope because this is fixable with a two year player.
I did not know the game was yesterday. But I read a little bit of the courier journal this morning. Quickley did leaps and bounds better than last year but this is an exhibition game... I like his ability to shoot the 3.
EJ imo, is a post player just going on his height alone.
I watched him last year try to kick the ball back out from the post to a guy open on the perimeter and he over threw the pass. He should've just went to the basket with the ball and got fouled or make the basket. Thats why they threw the ball to him. He wasn't double teamed or anything like that.
EJ imo, is a post player just going on his height alone.
I watched him last year try to kick the ball back out from the post to a guy open on the perimeter and he over threw the pass. He should've just went to the basket with the ball and got fouled or make the basket. Thats why they threw the ball to him. He wasn't double teamed or anything like that.
I think you very well could be right here. I think his game is not what fits with this system, just like Skal was a square peg.
I get the feeling he is more comfortable playing a Kevin Durant style of game, he has the frame for it, but he's closer to Sasha Kilea Jones than KD. There's a reason why there's a thousand 6'11" dudes out there, but only one guy that has shown the ability to play the way KD does… .. it's freaking hard to do.
But I'm not sure he's skilled enough at what he wants to be to be a two and done player. He may just be a 4 year guy. Same with Nick Richards.
Problem is, neither guy wants to stay at UK for four years, they never do.
Hopefully EJ figures it out through all the playing time he's going to get this year.
Prince was low key a killer, though, despite his seemingly laid back demeanor on the court.
Finding fault with EJ last night was easy. (We all winced at the bunnies he missed.)
But...But our HOF Coach has a knack for improving his team.
Factor that in before you write EJ's Epitaph. He'll find it.
But...But our HOF Coach has a knack for improving his team.
Factor that in before you write EJ's Epitaph. He'll find it.
Exactly. EJ May very well be mediocre all season. It’s possible but the FIRST exhibition game of the season is a bit too quick to write him off and make him out to be a liability. At least wait till January.
I can dish it and take it, so if you want to call me names, it’s coming right back at you.
I re-watched most of the game (yes, a preseason scrimmage) to focus in on EJ and Whitney, and neither played as badly as has been made out on this board. Both did some good things away from the ball and EJ in particular will be solid. I look for Whitney to slowly develop and come on during conference play.
Many on here probably forget that AD really struggled in a few early season games 2012. I'm not saying we have any AD talents here, but let's temper our expectations a bit.
Many on here probably forget that AD really struggled in a few early season games 2012. I'm not saying we have any AD talents here, but let's temper our expectations a bit.
It was plainly obvious that Davis was a total stud and game changer as early on as the Champion’s Classic game vs. Kansas. I don’t disagree with the gist of your post but it was pretty clear from the beginning that Davis was special.
Glad you can it and dish it.
Tell me, since you are capable of so much, are you also capable of waiting a few games before writing a kid off?
I would argue Duke peaked against UK last year.
Agreed, and I don't intend to suggest that we have AD talents on this team, but it was also quite obvious that AD had better get some seasoning asap during the garbage tournament we played at the Mohegan Sun Casino in Connecticut.
I appreciate that. I know you said he’s not as good. I’m saying even Prince’s demeanor fooled you a little bit. He seemed like a chill dude but he ripped hearts out.
THIS is what gives UK fans a bad rap...especially, when talking with fans of other schools
I’ve met both, off the floor both are very laid back, the difference as you have mentioned is that Prince was very high energy and assertive on the floor while EJ is not. That was where I was coming from.
Give it up, some just want to bash our own players, they will never change. It’s like our fans were all AA but only in their dreams.
