Have you ever played sports at any level? I'm starting to think you haven't.oh everything. nice and generic.....but i guess everyone will improve then too. so really the improvement doesnt really change anything than.
This is crazy.
Have you ever played sports at any level? I'm starting to think you haven't.oh everything. nice and generic.....but i guess everyone will improve then too. so really the improvement doesnt really change anything than.
By your logic how can you say zoomYou don’t compare players by just comparing stats. Aberdeen was a bright spot for us last year on a team that was not good at all for the most part. This team is going to be worse and that is assuming they stay fully healthy. Zoom hasn’t done anything yet (for us).that is why you saying they are a wash at best is absurd. He’s played a single exhibition game. Aberdeen averaged 13.5 points for us, shot just under 37% from 3’s on almost 5 attempts per game. Took care of the ball in a point guard role he wasn’t even meant to play and averaged less than 2 turnovers/game and shot 80% from the line. Now you tell me what zoom has done for us (hint: you can’t because he hasn’t). He might but to say they are a wash after a single preseason game where zoom wasn’t great at all is pure delusion. Don’t care how you want to spin it.
I didn’t argue this is good, I’m arguing that Wilkins won’t put up numbers this good in the SEC. People see what he did when he caught flames against UCONN and that is what they think he is. Looks at what he did against terrible competition and he makes Chandler look like an all star.And you think these numbers are impressive? Again, did somebody hack your profile?
These are the numbers of a guy that comes off the bench and has a good game every once in a while, because he's not the focus of the opponents defense.
Seriously, he had games with zero points, 2, 4, 3 etc… and what's funny is, you aren't showing his numbers from last year prior to conference play. Why? What am I going to find when I look? How many zero point games did he have against the cupcakes?
Again, you're better than this.
Neither of those happenedYou think not being prepared and quitting to be legit excuses?
not compared to all the all americans that post here every dayHave you ever played sports at any level? I'm starting to think you haven't.
This is crazy.
Can you make up your mind? You guys keep saying our team was terrible last year.i agree....zoom played for a terrible team and just padded his stats
Maybe I'm wrong but it seems that their former players are really involved with recruiting efforts and that has to help. We dont seem to benefit with our former guys helping to recruit.I started posting about nike funneling players to duke way back before it was even national news. It was all because nike ran usa basketball and that's where the connection was made.
We'll never get duke caliber players. They have so much money and clout, they just take whoever they want.
That said, we absolutely should be getting way more for the money we're spending. Other than Duke, we're basically willing to outspend anyone and this is what we're getting for it.
Can you show me on the doll where Mark Pope hurt you and Alex Wilkins looked at you the wrong way?I didn’t argue this is good, I’m arguing that Wilkins won’t put up numbers this good in the SEC. People see what he did when he caught flames against UCONN and that is what they think he is. Looks at what he did against terrible competition and he makes Chandler look like an all star.
DA was just an average player. who is suggesting otherwise. if people are thinking diallo is just DA....thats not a good thingCan you make up your mind? You guys keep saying our team was terrible last year.
So, let me guess, Zoom thrived on a terrible team and padded his stats.
But
DA played on a terrible team and since Pope was his coach, he never got better, but apparently had 2 bad games (Purdue and MSU) and improved in every statistical category throughout the year, but still didn't improve?
Am I doing this right?
I think you realize you put your foot in your mouth and went too far, but you’re hanging on for dear life, hoping to get out of this conversation without looking worse than you already do. As you can see, nobody is jumping in to help you here.not compared to all the all americans that post here every day
lol....cant wait to see all these improvements that actually result to us being better than the teams we play. i'm sure it will be greatI think you realize you put your foot in your mouth and went too far, but you’re hanging on for dear life, hoping to get out of this conversation without looking worse than you already do. As you can see, nobody is jumping in to help you here.
I'll let you off the hook, just stop responding.
Uh, by the time conference play came around, DA was one of the best pg's in the SEC. He wasn't just average, but Zoom still had better numbers.DA was just an average player. who is suggesting otherwise. if people are thinking diallo is just DA....thats not a good thing
You'll just disappear for a while.lol....cant wait to see all these improvements that actually result to us being better than the teams we play. i'm sure it will be great
DA didnt improve.....pope decide that they only way to win was for oweh and DA to take all the shots. guess what happens when you do that? lolUh, by the time conference play came around, DA was one of the best pg's in the SEC. He wasn't just average, but Zoom still had better numbers.
so if everyone gets better.....does the actual outcomes change? is that correct?So I’m assuming Tennessee won’t get better after they got smoked by Xavier. Is that correct?
I wonder how their message board is after that loss? Would think there is some panic over there. Imagine thinking your program is stellar and never ever being in a FF lol. It could be worse for all of us, we could be vols fans .So I’m assuming Tennessee won’t get better after they got smoked by Xavier. Is that correct?
I never said he was worse, but your assertion they were a wash at best is what I attacked which I have done so successfully as you have zero data to back up your claim.By your logic how can you say zoom
Is worse then? Remember he hasn’t done anything for us yet.
So we we were giving it our all against Gonzaga and still got smoked by 35 points last year?Neither of those happened
I did back it up with data. Both offensively last year the same player with Zoom scoring more. Same efficiency shooting the ball as well. Idk what else you would want.I never said he was worse, but your assertion they were a wash at best is what I attacked which I have done so successfully as you have zero data to back up your claim.
You're unbelievable. Could Pope be the next Dan Hurley? I guess but he literally can't even get recruits to even commit here so I'm not sure what even gives the slight indication that could happen. I watch his teams play (Like last night), and they all look exactly the same, despite the fact that the players change each year. Somehow his inbounds "plays" are worse than Cal's.The same number of Elite Eights Dan Hurley had through two years at UConn. Now a question for you....In Hurleys entire career, how many S16s did he have through two years at UConn??? You firing him too? Now move those goalposts
I’d assume they are realists and know it’s an exhibition game unlike most on here. The same ones who probably said we were #1 after beating Purdue.I wonder how their message board is after that loss? Would think there is some panic over there. Imagine thinking your program is stellar and never ever being in a FF lol. It could be worse for all of us, we could be vols fans .
You realized you have no argument now and are lost. Congrats.so if everyone gets better.....does the actual outcomes change? is that correct?
Wilkins will settle in. He is taller by a few inches and super quick as well. He won’t be a 40% + shooter I don’t think from 3 but if he’s 35-38 that’s great with how quick and shifty he is. He got to the paint at ease and made some passes that you don’t see many make especially with the off hand.I really like Wilkins as a player, but I am worried his jump will be similar to what we saw Xavien Lee attempt to do last year, and it was a struggle. I think both are good players, but the physicality of the high-level D1 and SEC games may hurt them.
You think he has only coached 2 years?You mean in two years?
Zoom shot 5 percentage points worse from 3 on half the attempts and turned the ball over more in less minutes per game. There are some stats he was better in, others worse but as I have already stated comparing stats of players is a lazy man’s way of analyzing. Zooms play this year for UK will dictate if you assertion is correct, that assertion still cannot be made in good faith but if it makes you feel better about it, you can have it for now.I did back it up with data. Both offensively last year the same player with Zoom scoring more. Same efficiency shooting the ball as well. Idk what else you would want.
About as weird as bashing two guards who just played together for the first time in a scrimmage game .I just thought here at Kentucky it was final four or bust . Also I guess I need to lighten up on fox and monk their head coach was way overrated and a horrible bench coach and chokerweird response. Taking shots at fox and monk like they didnt leave it all on the court against the crooked refs n a last second elite 8 loss. UK fans that diss players that won the sec regular season and sec tourney title and led us to 32 wins that season but prop up these players on this year's team are strange folks.
And I can promise u these guys this year arent gonna hang anything either. And it won't be close like fox and monk.
Zoom also had more assists and way better 2pt %. They both played 30 mins a game. Zoom is an elite 2pt shooter at 53% on 10 attempts at Washington. That’s why I said their effective fg% is the same with zoom 1% better. Both played on teams where they had to do more than they should.Zoom shot 5 percentage points worse from 3 on half the attempts and turned the ball over more in less minutes per game. There are some stats he was better in, others worse but as I have already stated comparing stats of players is a lazy man’s way of analyzing. Zooms play this year for UK will dictate if you assertion is correct, that assertion still cannot be made in good faith but if it makes you feel better about it, you can have it for now.
You are too optimistic on fans being realists these days lol. To me it's a great time of year especially with football doing well right now. Would be great for both programs to have solid seasons.I’d assume they are realists and know it’s an exhibition game unlike most on here. The same ones who probably said we were #1 after beating Purdue.
I agree I love the overlap. I’m an optimist in general. Season hasn’t even started so nothing to be pessimistic about imo.You are too optimistic on fans being realists these days lol. To me it's a great time of year especially with football doing well right now. Would be great for both programs to have solid seasons.
Style of play imo plays a huge part in that. We don’t run a featured player friendly system. Just the way it is under pope. Hopefully. He adapts somewhat and having Mo and aboya helps that as well.
Maybe I'm wrong but it seems that their former players are really involved with recruiting efforts and that has to help. We dont seem to benefit with our former guys helping to recruit.
With Cal being at Arkansas maybe that is the reason because our former players are conflicted. We should have offered Wall a spot before he went elsewhere. Maybe the position Pelphrey just took?
And zoom played on a team that finished below .500 with a weaker strength of schedule so there is that too.Zoom also had more assists and way better 2pt %. They both played 30 mins a game. Zoom is an elite 2pt shooter at 53% on 10 attempts at Washington. That’s why I said their effective fg% is the same with zoom 1% better. Both played on teams where they had to do more than they should.
you realize you cant make any quantitative argument and are now lost. but hey....keep those fingers crossed. i'm sure it will all work outYou realized you have no argument now and are lost. Congrats.
I made my argument and all you do is respond with a similar response to a question I ask you or statement I made to you. You are with the because I said so groupyou realize you cant make any quantitative argument and are now lost. but hey....keep those fingers crossed. i'm sure it will all work out
Let’s not forget the 2012 team was down by 1 at the half to Little Rock in January of 2012. The final score ended up being 73-51. This was mid season rounding the corner to a championship run and not an exhibition game.I asked what the final score of the game was out of curiosity as I haven’t seen anyone post it here. I saw on Facebook we led at half 30-19. I didn’t watch the game, I know nothing about the game other than what Ive read on here which doesn’t sound good at all but what I expected. I’ve never said anything good about this upcoming season, in fact I’ve said we were going to lose 12–15 games with pope as a coach regardless of roster. Yes I was saying that well before I even knew who would end up on our team. A flex? What the fork are you talking about. I asked a simple forking question but never forking mind I’ll just look up the damn final score online as asking forking questions on here gets you absolutely forking nowhere.
http://www.bigbluehistory.net/bb/statistics/games/20120103ArkansasLittleRock.html69-49....and yes it's going to be a long year
It wasn’t you… Milan knows basketball, and he can find solace by looking at his bank account whenever things south.Was it me or did Milan have a look on his face like “this isn’t going to be good” all night?
10 losses is the floor, unfortunately.8-10 losses is our ceiling I believe honestly if we go by this game.
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