Little Rock post game thoughts

[Padsfs07]

whats not fixable.....

• consistency from the PF spot

N'Diaye & McBride combined for 12 points and 7 boards. 4 turnovers isn't great, but that is fixable.

 

[ScWildcat3]

N'Diaye & McBride combined for 12 points and 7 boards. 4 turnovers isn't great, but that is fixable.

That guy thinks you can’t get better after exhibition game 1

 

[bigblueinsanity (the real)]

Duke also has people funneling kids to them that we lost a long time ago when cal pissed off nike and lost world wide Wes connection

I started posting about nike funneling players to duke way back before it was even national news. It was all because nike ran usa basketball and that's where the connection was made.

We'll never get duke caliber players. They have so much money and clout, they just take whoever they want.

That said, we absolutely should be getting way more for the money we're spending. Other than Duke, we're basically willing to outspend anyone and this is what we're getting for it.

 

[Ash Williams]

Fox and monk hang anything ?

There you go again, trashing our players.

 

[FLBBNFAN]

3 years averaging 10 losses. Also tech has plenty of money if they want to use it.

He's a good coach and his career record/achievements is better than Popes. He went to a EE already with them and thats not a basketball school.

I think if Pope gets canned here it's a sad day for the program because he's one of ours and that 96 team was special. I also believe you can root for Pope and our team but still point out legit problems . Im no expert and I freely admit that. I just want us to win because its been almost a decade since we seriously contended for a FF.

 

[ScWildcat3]

I started posting about nike funneling players to duke way back before it was even national news. It was all because nike ran usa basketball and that's where the connection was made.

We'll never get duke caliber players. They have so much money and clout, they just take whoever they want.

That said, we absolutely should be getting way more for the money we're spending. Other than Duke, we're basically willing to outspend anyone and this is what we're getting for it.

Style of play imo plays a huge part in that. We don’t run a featured player friendly system. Just the way it is under pope. Hopefully. He adapts somewhat and having Mo and aboya helps that as well.

 

[JustBlue]

It's $13.5M after the season.

That is just criminal

 

[phyrekat01]

I didn't realize we had a game last night.

 

[Ash Williams]

No sh*t, tell your buddies that.

LOL you were the one in the game thread complaining about the lack of offensive gimmicks like back cuts. You clown.

 

[Ash Williams]

It’s October 17th and you think perfectly healthy and talented players won't improve at all?

Tell me more. This is fascinating.

These aren't freshmen, champ. They're veterans. They looked like crap against a literal nobody.

 

[bbnkat02]

This will be mark popes last year

i’m kind of worried it will be too. And I hate that for him. But he knew what he was signing up for.

I just kinda hope he steps aside if that has to come to that and we don’t fire him. Because that would look bad.

This is why you don’t hire alumni unless it’s a very sure thing

 

[ScWildcat3]

These aren't freshmen, champ. They're veterans. They looked like crap against a literal nobody.

So no one improves from first game of season in a new system with a new team? That’s a new one to me.

 

[bbnkat02]

You're arguing that ALR is some sort of powerhouse? LOL

Nah. They do have a point though nobody is gonna schedule very weak exhibition games anymore.

LRA is scrappy and bigger than I thought. They’ll beat someone they shouldn’t. But we definitely have to play better.

 

[Ash Williams]

So no one improves from first game of season in a new system with a new team? That’s a new one to me.

Straw man. I didn't say that. But you're hanging your entire hat on the hope that they will get much better. You really believe, after watching that game last night, that we're better than, say, 6th in the SEC this year? Answer the question.

 

[kyjeff1]

players have months in the off season to "improve". do they? what has moreno improved on during the summer because he turned it over 4 times and couldn't post up a dude that was 6'4"?

but sure....when the season starts guys will magically get better

You're joking with this, right? Please tell me you're joking.

 

[kyjeff1]

Chandler won us games last year and I’ve watched Wilkins play more games than the UCONN game, if you are thinking that is what he is and what we are getting, you are gonna be so upset. Chandler hit the game winning 3, how many games last year and makes the game winning play at Tennessee and one other game. He is more athletic, can guard the ball better, is bigger and can finish at the rim better. You talk about the games where Chandler showed up, maybe you should look at what Wilkens did against lesser competition.

Nov. 19 Ohio Christian 10


Nov. 23 Queens 23


Nov. 27 Richmond 26


Nov. 28 Illinois State 25


Dec. 3 Elon 8


Dec. 6 Harvard 16


Dec. 9 Bob Jones 5


Feb. 14 VMI 8


Feb. 18 East Tennessee State 21


Feb. 21 Wofford 15


Feb. 25 The Citadel 8


Feb. 28 Western Carolina 14

That 5 point performance against Bob Jones was impressive.

Man, you're better than this.

 

[ScWildcat3]

Straw man. I didn't say that. But you're hanging your entire hat on the hope that they will get much better. You really believe, after watching that game last night, that we're better than, say, 6th in the SEC this year? Answer the question.

Yes I do. I’m not afraid to answer a question. Did you watch Tennessee or bama play? Neither looked like world beaters. Also we are better than vandy imo too. That’s 3 ranked in front of us right now.

 

[kyjeff1]

By the way, this is what Colin Chandler did in SEC play last year. Come talk to me after SEC with Wilkins stats.
Jan. 3 Alabama 3


Jan. 7 Missouri 0


Jan. 10 Mississippi State 7


Jan. 14 LSU 9


Jan. 17 Tennessee 12


Jan. 21 Texas 18


Jan. 24 Ole Miss 12


Jan. 27 Vanderbilt 4


Jan. 31 Arkansas 13


Feb. 4 Oklahoma 18


Feb. 7 Tennessee 9


Feb. 14 Florida 18


Feb. 17 Georgia 18


Feb. 21 Auburn 10


Feb. 24 South Carolina 10


Feb. 28 Vanderbilt 23


Mar. 3 Texas A&M 3


Mar. 7 Florida 2

And you think these numbers are impressive? Again, did somebody hack your profile?

These are the numbers of a guy that comes off the bench and has a good game every once in a while, because he's not the focus of the opponents defense.

Seriously, he had games with zero points, 2, 4, 3 etc… and what's funny is, you aren't showing his numbers from last year prior to conference play. Why? What am I going to find when I look? How many zero point games did he have against the cupcakes?

Again, you're better than this.

 

[DelkBowl]

It's gonna be a long season.....on this board.
So much negativity, posters are gonna pounce on Pope and the players every chance they get. No one cares, but I may not last the season.

It’s a really simple fix

 

[Cats_2010]

We definitely upgraded the roster. What are you talking about. Lowe didn’t play. Johnson didn’t play. Aberdeen and zoom are a wash at best. Zoom will be better imo. Milan is better fit than Oweh seeing Oweh played the 3 for us. Wilkins is overall better than Chandler. Kam is back. Also Mason Is better than any bench guard we had last year.

Didn’t you just tell someone a few post ago they didn’t know ball and then proceed to say zoom and Aberdeen are a wash at best. . Good grief, the delusion on this board is just at times with some of you.

 

[kyjeff1]

LOL you were the one in the game thread complaining about the lack of offensive gimmicks like back cuts. You clown.

Was I wrong? I made a statement that we weren't running any offensive sets. What issue are you trying to fabricate here?

 

[kyjeff1]

These aren't freshmen, champ. They're veterans. They looked like crap against a literal nobody.

Okay, so you're saying none of these guys are going to improve? Please say yes (you just did actually).

You guys are insufferable. All I can do is laugh.

 

[Wildcat_in_DC]

Guess u didn’t watch byu last night then? Rob wright missed at minimum 3-4 and Chandler missed a few too. Preseason game 1 btw.

and that would matter if i cared about BYU

 

[ScWildcat3]

Didn’t you just tell someone a few post ago they didn’t know ball and then proceed to say zoom and Aberdeen are a wash at best. . Good grief, the delusion on this board is just at times with some of you.

What did Aberdeen do that is any different than what Zoom has done? Basically same stats across the board except Zoom scored more. Also Zoom is 2 years younger. Zoom put up comparable stats to Aberdeen as a sophomore to aberdeens senior year. Please back up your claim they aren’t comparable

 

[ScWildcat3]

and that would matter if i cared about BYU

It matters a lot if you making claims off of 1 exhibition game when guards you think are better had the same kind of mistakes.

 

[Wildcat_in_DC]

Okay, so you're saying none of these guys are going to improve? Please say yes (you just did actually).

You guys are insufferable. All I can do is laugh.

improve at what?

 

[ScWildcat3]

Okay, so you're saying none of these guys are going to improve? Please say yes (you just did actually).

You guys are insufferable. All I can do is laugh.

Players aren’t allowed to get better in his world.

 

[UKortho]

You on the other hand are coming across as a mature, stable and well adjusted member of society and are totally improving the discourse here with your level headed approach.

I bet Pope would be proud of his using “fork” in his posts. Both dorks.

 

[UKgrad22]

Just hope they go back to the drawing board on offense and get better for TTU. Both teams looked rough

 

[ScWildcat3]

Just hope they go back to the drawing board on offense and get better for TTU. Both teams looked rough

We didn’t run much of the traditional zoom stuff. Was really just a guy out and play with some actions thrown in. Playing like that exposes you a lot more than a controlled offense. I’m assuming that’s what a coach would be glad to see so now film session shows what to work on and what they can and can’t do. These 3 games mean nothing. Just helps settle roles and rotations somewhat.

 

[kyjeff1]

Zoom and DA had two common opponents last year.

Zoom:
Against Purdue
14 points 8 assists

Against Michigan State
18 points 5 assists

DA
Against Purdue
9 points 3 assists

Against Michigan State
10 points 2 assists

I'll remind you, Zoom played for… .checks notes… Washington.

 

[UKBB4Ever]

You talk about that Elite 8 with reverence and pull an excuse (refs) as to why they lost, but when Pope goes to the S16 and loses with a legit excuse (injuries) you scream no excuses at Kentucky. Move those goal posts

You think not being prepared and quitting to be legit excuses?

 

[kyjeff1]

improve at what?

Uh, everything.
Is this a serious question?

 

[ScWildcat3]

Zoom and DA had two common opponents last year.

Zoom:
Against Purdue
14 points 8 assists

Against Michigan State
18 points 5 assists

DA
Against Purdue
9 points 3 assists

Against Michigan State
10 points 2 assists

I'll remind you, Zoom played for… .checks notes… Washington.

That other guy doesn’t like facts. He likes because I said so logic.

 

[Cats_2010]

What did Aberdeen do that is any different than what Zoom has done? Basically same stats across the board except Zoom scored more. Also Zoom is 2 years younger. Zoom put up comparable stats to Aberdeen as a sophomore to aberdeens senior year. Please back up your claim they aren’t comparable

You don’t compare players by just comparing stats. Aberdeen was a bright spot for us last year on a team that was not good at all for the most part. This team is going to be worse and that is assuming they stay fully healthy. Zoom hasn’t done anything yet (for us).that is why you saying they are a wash at best is absurd. He’s played a single exhibition game. Aberdeen averaged 13.5 points for us, shot just under 37% from 3’s on almost 5 attempts per game. Took care of the ball in a point guard role he wasn’t even meant to play and averaged less than 2 turnovers/game and shot 80% from the line. Now you tell me what zoom has done for us (hint: you can’t because he hasn’t). He might but to say they are a wash after a single preseason game where zoom wasn’t great at all is pure delusion. Don’t care how you want to spin it.

 

[kyjeff1]

Players aren’t allowed to get better in his world.

I can't believe what I'm reading. Pope has these guys so screwed up. They are coming up with anything they can dredge up to try to dunk on the guy. It’s so bad.

MPDS

 

[Wildcat_in_DC]

Zoom and DA had two common opponents last year.

Zoom:
Against Purdue
14 points 8 assists

Against Michigan State
18 points 5 assists

DA
Against Purdue
9 points 3 assists

Against Michigan State
10 points 2 assists

I'll remind you, Zoom played for… .checks notes… Washington.

i agree....zoom played for a terrible team and just padded his stats

 

[Wildcat_in_DC]

Uh, everything.
Is this a serious question?

oh everything. nice and generic.....but i guess everyone will improve then too. so really the improvement doesnt really change anything than.

 

[FLBBNFAN]

Exactly my point. We didn't go inside is coaching. Now maybe Pope just wanted them to do whatever. I, unlike many here, am not yet concluding Pope won't be great. But this game there seemed to be no coaching and maybe that's because it was an exhibition. Who knows until we see a few more games.

Good points and you're right it's early and by December we will know what we have.

 

[kyjeff1]

That other guy doesn’t like facts. He likes because I said so logic.

Facts get in the way of their desperate need to dunk on Pope.
These are obviously people that are miserable and feel better when they create things to complain about, or play the victim.