KyKy Tandy

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The guy literally said hes Bledsoe with a better shot...I was pointing out how asinine a statement that was.
He reminds me of Bledsoe is different from “hes” Bledsoe. People say Ben reminds them of Lebron but “hes” not lebron. Ja Morant reminds them of Westbrook but “hes” not Westbrook. Reminds and hes is two different things
 

akaukswoosh

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Allen led his aau circuit in scoring is 6"6 and has shot 40 percent from 3 at every level.
This. Allen led an AU AAU event in scoring. He outscored 5-star Anthony Edwards in the same event.
KyKy played on the AU AAU circuit and failed to hit even 25 percent from behind the arc. Probably saw the light and figured he could thrive at a nice mid-major like Xavier where his dad wouldn't have to worry about competition for his spot.
 
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Son_Of_Saul

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KyKy is a poor man's Quickley, and Quickley is a poor man's Maxey.

KyKy knew where his place on the food chain was going to be.

Bye, bye, Miss American Kyky
Drove the Chevy to Xavier, and that's where he'll cry
While UK boys, have banners to fly
Singing "let's go win number nine",
Singing, "as KyKy rides the Xavier pine."
 

CatsPaws270

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This. Allen led an AU AAU event in scoring. He outscored 5-star Anthony Edwards in the same event.
KyKy played on the AU AAU circuit and failed to hit even 25 percent from behind the arc. Probably saw the light and figured he could thrive at a nice mid-major like Xavier where his dad wouldn't have to worry about competition for his spot.
25% in 8 games. Really big sample size.
 

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Bipolar posters everywhere in this thread. 8 games into the season Tyler Herro can't shoot! 8 games of AAU play, "really big sample size." What I'm not understanding is no one had said Tandy can't play. We simply said he isn't the same level as the recruits UK gets. Posters claiming they aren't saying he is, then turn around and defend him like he is. What exactly are we trying to accomplish here, what are we even arguing about!?!
 

$Z71$

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KyKy is a poor man's Quickley, and Quickley is a poor man's Maxey.

KyKy knew where his place on the food chain was going to be.

Bye, bye, Miss American Kyky
Drove the Chevy to Xavier, and that's where he'll cry
While UK boys, have banners to fly
Singing "let's go win number nine",
Singing, "as KyKy rides the Xavier pine."
His game is nothing like either of those players. His ceiling is a poor mans Tony Delk.
 

CatsPaws270

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Bipolar posters everywhere in this thread. 8 games into the season Tyler Herro can't shoot! 8 games of AAU play, "really big sample size." What I'm not understanding is no one had said Tandy can't play. We simply said he isn't the same level as the recruits UK gets. Posters claiming they aren't saying he is, then turn around and defend him like he is. What exactly are we trying to accomplish here, what are we even arguing about!?!
Well that's funny you mix me in with other posters on the Herro issue....but yes a great point! 8 games doesn't define a season! Thanks for the help!

Anyone who thinks Tandy isn't a great 3-point shooter hasn't watch him actually....ya know...shoot the ball. But hey some website says he shot 25% for 8 games and that's what he is....lol
 

$Z71$

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Well that's funny you mix me in with other posters on the Herro issue....but yes a great point! 8 games doesn't define a season! Thanks for the help!

Anyone who thinks Tandy isn't a great 3-point shooter hasn't watch him actually....ya know...shoot the ball. But hey some website says he shot 25% for 8 games and that's what he is....lol
I've seen him play a ton, and no he isn't a great shooter. He is serviceable threat to shoot but only average for D1. He finishes at the hoop at an above average clip and has a high motor. I'm still not understanding your issue with seeing what we are all saying. You just keep blindly defending him yet following that by saying the same exact points we are all making.
 

CatsPaws270

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I've seen him play a ton, and no he isn't a great shooter. He is serviceable threat to shoot but only average for D1. He finishes at the hoop at an above average clip and has a high motor. I'm still not understanding your issue with seeing what we are all saying. You just keep blindly defending him yet following that by saying the same exact points we are all making.
I'll trust Greg Buckner and Scotty Hopson's opinion over yours. Who both said he's better than they were...ever heard of those guys?
 

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Definiton of Great: of an extent, amount, or intensity considerably above the normal or average.
No Tandy is not a great shooter, he isn't even a good one in D1. He is average. Finishing at the rim he is good to great, and he has a great motor.
 

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I'll trust Greg Buckner and Scotty Hopson's opinion over yours. Who both said he's better than they were...ever heard of those guys?
Yep, as I posted earlier Hopson was #9 in his class. Tandy is 85-93 depending on which site you choose to use. Ever heard of the word Humble? That's why they said what they said.
 

CatsPaws270

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Yep, as I posted earlier Hopson was #9 in his class. Tandy is 85-93 depending on which site you choose to use. Ever heard of the word Humble? That's why they said what they said.

Height Height Height. That's the difference.

Scotty Hopson didn't even start varsity until his Junior year. He was a great prospect because of his intangibles at 6'8. Great player...but if he was 6'2 he would've been at Austin Peay.
 

$Z71$

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You just answered your own argument. Tandy is 6' listed at 6'1 and isn't getting any taller. He is what his is, his ceiling isn't much higher than the player he already is. He can improve his shooting and ball handling. Already has above average basketball skills in other aspects. As repeated so many times I'm beginning to think you must be dense, he is a good player. He isn't great and he isn't NBA material. Hopson and Buckner were. What don't you understand about that exactly? If he were truly elite and skilled then being 6'1 wouldn't stop him. People that height who are actually elite and GREAT are still top recruits and still highly regarded NBA prospects. Tandy isn't that and never will be. He will average 14-18 overall in his career at Xavier. I have no doubt about that. Then he will play in Europe. I've said that all along, yet here you are still chirping back to defend him.
 

CatsPaws270

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You just answered your own argument. Tandy is 6' listed at 6'1 and isn't getting any taller. He is what his is, his ceiling isn't much higher than the player he already is. He can improve his shooting and ball handling. Already has above average basketball skills in other aspects. As repeated so many times I'm beginning to think you must be dense, he is a good player. He isn't great and he isn't NBA material. Hopson and Buckner were. What don't you understand about that exactly? If he were truly elite and skilled then being 6'1 wouldn't stop him. People that height who are actually elite and GREAT are still top recruits and still highly regarded NBA prospects. Tandy isn't that and never will be. He will average 14-18 overall in his career at Xavier. I have no doubt about that. Then he will play in Europe. I've said that all along, yet here you are still chirping back to defend him.
I never said he would be a star at Kentucky or star here. But as UK fans we are..if you don't get a UK offer or aren't a 5-star....you aren't a good player. Heck if you don't make the NBA you aren't a good player.

My points in summary to end that I've been consistent about:
1. He's better than Dontaie Allen
2. He was skilled enough to play, he wouldn't have been token in-state kid like a Polson or Hawkins...but not good enough to start or be 6-man
2. He will be a really good college player
3. Would not have been a good fit at UK
4. He would've never put up a lot of numbers here
5. don't think he will play in the NBA
6. Just because you aren't a high prospect, doesn't mean you aren't good
7. Star system is about long-term pro potential (See Marcus Lee)
8. Cal did not make a mistake
9. Kentucky will be fine
10. Tandy will be fine
11. Great college players don't always make great professionals. Doesn't mean they aren't good players (See Russ Smith)
 

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I never said he would be a star at Kentucky or star here. But as UK fans we are..if you don't get a UK offer or aren't a 5-star....you aren't a good player. Heck if you don't make the NBA you aren't a good player.

My points in summary to end that I've been consistent about:
1. He's better than Dontaie Allen
2. He was skilled enough to play, he wouldn't have been token in-state kid like a Polson or Hawkins...but not good enough to start or be 6-man
2. He will be a really good college player
3. Would not have been a good fit at UK
4. He would've never put up a lot of numbers here
5. don't think he will play in the NBA
6. Just because you aren't a high prospect, doesn't mean you aren't good
7. Star system is about long-term pro potential (See Marcus Lee)
8. Cal did not make a mistake
9. Kentucky will be fine
10. Tandy will be fine
11. Great college players don't always make great professionals. Doesn't mean they aren't good players (See Russ Smith)

I've stated since my first post in this thread that he is a good player. That he will have a good career at Xavier. I never once claimed otherwise. Take the time to go back and read what I said. I agree with all your points other than no he isn't better than Allen. Allen has the length, scoring ability and is already a better shooter than Tandy. Tandy can finish at the rim better but other than that he does nothing better than Allen. Tandy is a stud for Kentucky high school hoops, but he is one of a few hundred 6'1 guys with his skill set in D1. Good player yes, and highly skilled. Just not on an elite level. That's what I said all along, which you seem to say you agree with, yet always reply with things saying the opposite. I'm done with this meaningless post, point made.
 

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KyKy is a poor man's Quickley, and Quickley is a poor man's Maxey.

Bye, bye, Miss American Kyky
Drove the Chevy to Xavier, and that's where he'll cry
While UK boys, have banners to fly
Singing "let's go win number 10",
Singing, "as KyKy rides the Xavier pine."
FIFY
 

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Read this thread and think about the discussions that might have been made about Bone and Williams three-four years ago. Not this Not that , not not not , sometimes you cant measure determination , heart , or sometimes players are late bloomers . Would have been a great kid to rely on for 4 years while we shuffle players thru Lexington
 
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catswin

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People talk about the garbage region 2....but Hoptown schools carry that region. Actually....our talent level is pretty much dominating the state...compare us to BG, Louisville, and Lexington who have wayyyyy more people and we are still producing talent on par w/ Louisville and better than Lexington.

Here are the players he played against in his district the last 4-5 years that are currently playing Division 1 basketball. This is just kids Kyky played against in town during high school that are D1...I won't go in to the other kids at good JuCo's and D2 schools.

1.JaQualis Matlock: Plays for Eastern Illinois
2. Tyrik Edwards: Played for Jacksonville State before he transferred.
3. Tray Hollowell: Plays for top 20 Wofford
4. Jaylen Sebree: Plays for FAU, was averaging 10, 4, & 2 his freshman year this season before injury
5. Detorrian Ware: Plays for Jacksonville State
6. Jalen Johnson: Plays for Murray State

Over his High School tenure he played in a district that produced 6 division 1 players in a 4-5 year span!?!?! A city w/ only 3 schools. Actually now counting Kyky it's 7 division 1 players over that time!

Find us a city per capita that is putting out Division 1 talent like Hopkinsville? Find a city in this state outside of Louisville that has had 3 NBA players over the last 25 years? Who was the last city/school in this state to produce a top 10 recruit?

Idk where this not playing any talent narrative comes from...but was it when he was playing in the King of the Bluegrass? Or was it when he led UHA to the Traditional Bank Classic Championship? Maybe him not playing good talent comes from all the games he played outside of Hopkinsville...because it seems the rest of the state isn't producing talent up to par with our city.

He's better than Scotty Hopson. Everyone said Anthony Hickey was too small and didn't play good competition...but he started 4 years of P5 basketball....and Kyky is on another stratosphere than Hickey. Kyky is better than Dom Hawkins was be a wide margin.

Now I don't know if he would've been a player Cal liked because he wasn't long and doesn't play multiple positions....but he will play and contribute at a high level at Xavier.

His offer sheet speaks for itself: Auburn, Florida, Iowa State, Clemson, Cincinatti, Tennessee, Ole Miss, Kansas State, Oklahoma State, Oklahoma, Virginia Tech, Wichata State.....yeah he can play.

Those colleges that you mentioned aren’t even good low level D1 basketball schools. He has played against slow, short non athletic competition more often than not. Please don’t compare Region 2 talent to Region 7 talent. That is totally laughable.
 

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Tandy shot 35% from 3 this season against mostly single A schools this season. He is not a better shooter than everyone on the current UK roster.

Nope, played much better competition that that. A good 2nd region with Madisonville, Hopkinsville and Christian County plus King of the Bluegrass, Marshall County Hoopfest, Traditional Bank Tourney in Lexington and Memphis tournament. Probably as good competition as anyone in Kentucky.
 

CatsPaws270

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Those colleges that you mentioned aren’t even good low level D1 basketball schools. He has played against slow, short non athletic competition more often than not. Please don’t compare Region 2 talent to Region 7 talent. That is totally laughable.

Not region 2, I'm talking district 8 alone. 7 Division 1 players in 5 seasons...and if the 7'footer from Hoptown signs D1 then it will be 8 in 5 seasons....all from 3 schools. IDC if it's low or high level division 1, a division 1 kid is a division 1 kid. Madisonville is just 30 minutes north of UHA and has 3 division 1 kids on there team....

No one is comparing to the Louisville schools because...well of course numbers wise there's just more kids in a metro area...but heck even the Louisville area doesn't put out the talent they should for that size. I mean Louisville metro is a little under 800,000 in population and Christian County Ky is just under 70,000...yet we are putting out a comparable number of Division 1 basketball players.

The city of Hopkinsville produces ball players. And per capita...no one is doing it better in this state. From college to NBA....the number don't lie.
 
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This is when UK lost interest in KyKy...m as y of cost his son a future in the NBA...
His mouth just wrote a million dollar check
How peeved would you be at yo pops.
I mean 6'1" SG really don't exist in nba
Has to be realky special at that size
Just don't see it
Hope I'm wrong, plus kinda glad he ain't coming, could you imagine how many times we would hear drake's hey ki ki...
Remember a guy named Tony Delk? Im pretty sure he was 6'1" shooting gaurd who played a long time in the NBA. I saw Tony play several times and Tandy is way more athletic. Not bashing Tony because he is one of my favorite all time Cats, but it is possible. Early in the year Tandy cut his chin on the rim dunking over a 7 footer from Hopkinsville in a game. Look it up on YOuTube.
 

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Scotty Hopson was no where near 6'8" was he? More like 6'5". And really not that great a player. I don't think Cal would recruit him here either. So why would he recruit a lesser guy who is 6'1"? Cal since he's been at UK has been able to be more selective in the intangibles department with kids. I don't know about the Tandy kid but from what I remember of Hopson he wouldn't have been recruited here.
 

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Hopson was garbage in college. He was rated high because of his athleticism, but a terrible bball player on the D1 level.
 

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Ok go ahead and start bashing me with all you guys have. Im going on record as saying this kid will be the current version of Chris Lofton. I have seen many many great high school players in person over the years, many who have went on to pro careers, but Im saying right now he is the most impressive player Ive watched play in person. Its a freaking crime he isnt going to play for the Cats. I know the garbage about his dad running his mouth and Ive seen countless threads on here from way back about it. He is a better shooter than anyone we have now, and Ive never seen a player in person who can explode like him. And he seems like a great kid with a calm demeanor on the floor. I hadnt been to a high school game in several yrs. Decided to go watch him play in the regional. He had 32 at halftime without breaking a sweat. Highlight reel dunks, and 8 or 9 3 pointers. Some of which were closer to midcourt than the 3 point line. Xavier got a steal here, and its a crying shame he isnt gonna be a CAT!!! OK, go ahead and bash me.
The kid has already been arrested, tried and found guilty by the rumor mill of the message board. Since he kept his options open and did not jump and the offer, the board decided there was a reason and blamed his father.

What his father actually said or did does not matter. Other handlers, parents, coaches have said similar, but were not convicted by our board because they signed here.
 

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Scotty Hopson was no where near 6'8" was he? More like 6'5". And really not that great a player. I don't think Cal would recruit him here either. So why would he recruit a lesser guy who is 6'1"? Cal since he's been at UK has been able to be more selective in the intangibles department with kids. I don't know about the Tandy kid but from what I remember of Hopson he wouldn't have been recruited here.
Scotty Hopson was an in-state player who was ranked #5 in the nation. Mcdonalds All-American. Cal would've recruited him.

Imagine if Billy had gotten him and he stayed 1 more year for Cal...he would've been the missing link on the wing.

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