If he’s from Oklahoma this thread doesn’t exist and nobody cares, in fact there would be talk of why we took him and will it prevent us from signing someone better. Being from Kentucky doesn’t or shouldn’t mean anything, I’m glad the staff isn’t as susceptible to pressure to sign locals. I don’t care at all where a players from, sign the best you can.
KyKy Tandy
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He didn't just win the award, he won the day he signed with Kentucky....played in 13 of his team's 28 games.
Exactly...all second and 3rd tier schools. No Bluebloods or powerhouses.
Ky isn't for everyone. Well kyky can prove us all wrong during ky sweet 16...oh wait..snap.
All the undersized talk, reminds me of Eric Bledsoe. Kyky Tandy reminds me of Bledsoe but a better shooting verison. I noticed all of the underwhelming shooting of Tandy talk and it’s absurd, he’s a good shooter with crazy range and they ability to get his shot off from anywhere
Now the truth comes out...and if those are 2nd and 3rd tier schools then...well ok whatever lol
You don't like the kid. You're one of those guys....I get it! Glad I quoted before you edited. Your mind is made up with anger. You're probably the first to defend a UK player commit because they're on your favorite team...same as I....but how dare people root for top 100 players from their own state to succeed! Shame on us!!!
What high school stats? You talking about Junior year stats? Shot 192 3-pointers and hit 48% of them? Or this year when he played a tough schedule and it was only 35%...how terrible :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
But then again...you're the expert on Kyky hate because you watched him :joy:
35% from 3pt this season playing against region 2 competition. That's not a good shooter, average at best. Kyky can't hold Eric Bledsoes jock. Kid can play yes and is D1 material. He isn't top level talent though. If you've seen him play and think he is then you haven't seen true top level talent at the high school level. I've seen Tandy 20+ times and knew he was D1 for years, waited for him to develop his game to another level and it never happened. It is what it is, he will have a great career at Xavier and make some money oversees.
Just being from Kentucky doesn't turn a fringe top 100 recruit into a must get. We landed the in state guy with by far the highest ceiling and the best chance to help our team next year. Take off your Western Kentucky tinted goggles for a moment and use logic.
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How much did Scottie Lewis average in AAU?
How much did Bryan Antoine average in AAU?
How much did Nico Mannion average in AAU?
He was top 25 in scoring in UAA league and those stats doesn’t even account for games from other tournaments, only UAA sessions
@HoptownCat93
You only defend him because you are from Hopkinsville. If KyKy was from Northern Ohio and all stats equal would you give two ****$ about us not offering and him going to Xavier instead? No one is saying the kid can't play, What we are saying is we have better players already signed for his same spot.
You only defend him because you are from Hopkinsville. If KyKy was from Northern Ohio and all stats equal would you give two ****$ about us not offering and him going to Xavier instead? No one is saying the kid can't play, What we are saying is we have better players already signed for his same spot.
Not sure if you are aware but 35% for a high school kid who is (according to you) a top level D1 player is pretty bad.
I don't hate the kid at all. I think he's a fine player and will probably be a solid college player. But, he had his chance to come to UK, he and his dad blew it and it's time to move on.
If he was from Texas or Virginia or Minnesota nobody (including you) would have any idea who he is nor give two craps that he isn't coming to UK.
High School stats scored over 3k points and is TOP 10 all time scoring in state after they update it this year lol, AAU he was top 25 in scoring in his league , Pangos All American camp he was top in every category, try again
Go sit in the corner and think about the comparison you just made. Bledsoe is a freak of nature athletically that Tandy is no where near the level of who just signed a $70mil contract in the NBA. I'd bet willing to bet that wont happen with Tandy.
It's not Western Ky tint. Calipari thought he was good enough....his dad just made dumb comments. Don't switch up from his dad to he's not good enough excuse. Calipari came to that little region 2 title game...I mean he does that soooo often...oh wait not he doesn't go to in-state games often...my bad.
I'm glad Kyky isn't going to Kentucky because he will shine at Xavier and UK will continue to get great players. A win-win. I'm not on here advocating for a scholarship or saying Cal was wrong...I'm trying to clear the ignorance that he's not a great player.
He's 6'1 in the top 100...you have to be highly skilled to do that....
None of that shows he is a good shooter. 35% in high school, somewhere around 28% from three in AAU proves he's not a good shooter.
I've never said I wouldn't root for the kid, just I want the best available our there. Don't get get why you are so defensive. If he was so great, a future nba player, how come he didn't get his team to the tourney? How cone he didn't receive Mr. Bsketball.
If he was such a great player coming from a great area, where are his championships.
Cal wants winners, not excuse makers. You are proud of where you live, good for you. I am excited for Allen, another in state player.
Don't be hypocritical and celebrate him coming to uk
Anyone who compares him to Scotty Hopson is insane. Scotty Hopson was #9 national recruit not 93. He was 6'7 and long not 6' and undersized. It's not even comparable. Tandy can hoop, but its simple to see he isn't on an elite level. He isn't even on the tier below elite. He is an above average D1 talent. It's as simple as that, nothing more nothing less. His odds of being drafted are less than 0. I wish him the best but the posters calling it a huge miss for UK are delusional.
And if you weren't a UK fan you wouldn't have cared that Cal wasn't on the list for Naismith COY. But guess what? You've watched the games and know that was wrong.
I'm not saying Kyky should've came here and started...he was good enough to play here. He's not Bledsoe or on that level and UK and Tandy will be fine. Trust me...I'm not a homer. We put out division 1 talent pretty much every year in Hoptown(5 on D1 rosters right now)....we've had 3 NBA players play in games since the year 2000....I've seen the kids from around here and he's on another level, I don't advocate really ever for those kids. Scotty Hopson personally told me that Kyky is better than him...he just had a 7 inch advantage.
“No where near that level” we comparing high school careers and soon to be college. I’m positive that Tandy will be on that “level” to average 11.3 in college
By any means I’m not saying Tandy is better than Bledsoe or on his level, I just said he reminds me of him, his play style , height, and athletic ability
How come Dontaie Allen never got out of the 1st round of region in 3 years? (Only made it once). Kyky made state at least....Kyky won the All-A state tournament. If you actually watched Tandy (you didn't), he didn't have a player over 6'3 on his team and had to carry them?
Cats are winners...not excuse makers?
Isn't this the same fan base that CRIED and MOANED that Wandale Robinson committed to UK just to win Mr. Football??? Why did we think that? Did we think that there's some bias for UK recruits to get the award lol.
There's a difference between good and great. Great to me means one of the best 50 players in the nation any given year in college. Will he ever be that? Doubtful. He is a good player no doubt, but there are 5 players 6'2 and under in top 40. Being 6’1 and ranked 93 doesn’t make you any better then being 6’8 and being 93. I’ve said numerous times the kid can play. He just isn’t on the level of elite talent and never will be. He is an above average D1 prospect and best of luck to him.
But let’s see if Allen or Tandy has a better college career, we all know high school accolades doesn’t matter in college
Put freshman Bledsoe on next years Xavier team and he averages 20-25 a game. He was the 4-5th scoring option for UK. Bledsoe was a true point, Tandy is not. He is a small 2 guard.
Let's just be real for a moment when talking about Kyky and UK's recruiting. Cal can land 10 guards every year or more that will have a higher ceiling and be just as good in College. Let's not act like he is this can't miss product just because he's from Kentucky. The kid might have had a chance to come here if his father was killing his shot. Cal doesn't need the added drama from a player that doesn't fit hit preference in a guard anyways.
Again...not smart. Tandy may average 11.3 at some point, maybe even next year. But Beldsoe had to share the ball and scoring with Wall, Cousins, and Patterson. Think that may of had something to do with him "only" averaging 11.3ppg as a freshman on an elite 8 team?
Who is Tandy going to have to share scoring responsibility with, and is X even going to be a tourney team next year let alone a top 5 team?
Cal thought Tandy was good enough for a scholarship. That doesn’t mean Cal thought he’d log significant minutes as a freshman or even as a Soohomore etc. it means he was good enough to be on the team. Big difference in the two that some seem not to understand.
He's not Bledsoe...Bledsoe is the starting PG on a team that may play for the NBA title this year.
Will Kyky be 1st team Big East by his senior year or Big East Freshman of the Year? Yeah I can see that possibly...not lotto pick after year 1 haha
You make a lot of assumptions...you have answered your own questions bout Allen. I did follow kyky for a while when we were recruiting him. I trust Cal and his decisions.
I know that it's incredibly difficult for an undersized SG who shoots below 34 percent from 3 in hs will have issues come div1 college. I never said he wasn't d 1 materisl, just not uk material. Don't get what you are arguing...it's like you have an emotional investment or man crush on the kid, if you do cool. Just don't get the hostile passive aggressive digs you are responding or throwing at me.
Hope kyky has a great career in xavier
Kentucky isn't for everyone
Mr tandy made sure his kid would never find out...
Who knows..maybe come down his jr yr, he graduates early and your wish would happen and he becomes a graduate transfer. ..
I never said that he could get those minutes...I never even said it was a mistake...I just want to make it known that he is good enough...but we didn't need him. He just isn't tall enough...Cal like long players who can guard multiple spots and that's not Kyky. I understand that.
But the logic switches about his skill...and Cal's judgement was that he was a good enough for him to recruit. I trust Cal's eye.
We are Kentucky and we don't NEED anyone....we didn't NEED Trae Young last year because we had SGA...and Kyky is nowhere near Trae Young.
There is a lot of gnashing of teeth going on here for a situation that was resolved a long time ago.
Allen led his aau circuit in scoring is 6"6 and has shot 40 percent from 3 at every level.
LOL how you going to take a kid who was never willing to come here and be out recruited by real studs like Maxey and Whitney. Allen is the better player as well.
Let the kid be average to good at the X-men . Let UK continue to get studs like Maxey.
I don't want him here because he's not a Calipari player and don't see a fit. He will be great at Xavier. Allen will be a great role player for us. We will compete for title and Kyky will play and put up numbers on national TV. It will work out.
And yeah, I'll admit I have a personal attachment to him because well...I'm drawn to good basketball...I have an eye for it because that's what we see around this city.
He's better than Allen and way ahead of Dom Hawkins at this point. Allen is just taller and has parents that know when to shut their mouths. Neither of them are UK material by your standards. But I do root for Allen to eventually start and contribute...I think his game can develop over time and we will need him for his wing size and 3-point range. Kyky will probably be Xavier's leading scorer his last 2 years. It will work out. Can't wait to watch the Kentucky boys on Xavier.
Just take it from a guy who played on all levels. He also coached against Tandy twice this year. Read Derek Anderson comment.
LOL I think Tandy will be a good college player but he isn't in the same atmosphere as Allen . And alot of that simply has to do with size. Allen is better shooter and scorer then Tandy AND is 6 inches taller. Do the math.
The sad thing is this is only a topic because he plays in Kentucky as no one on this board would give 2 flips about a borderline top 100 player who is the what 40th best guard as a HS senior?
The bottom line is I think Cal wanted Tandy as we can use a Hawkins level player ( which is what he is make no mistake) BUT his dumb dad made comments as if he son was some elite player and we need none of that noise from a kid who will be the 9th man on a roster.
Allen won Mr Basketball because when he was healthy he was droppin damn 40 pts every single night AND he is a UK commit .
As someone else said it was a win - win . A Kentucky kid is going to the level of school where he will actually play and be a starter some day with Tandy and UK got the best in state player in a while in Allen who will have a career very similar to Darius Miller .
The guy literally said hes Bledsoe with a better shot...I was pointing out how asinine a statement that was.
Yeah...I think sometimes we mix-up styles of play with skill level. Bledsoe and Archie Goodwin were 2 of the most athletic kids I've ever seen in high school....and it will be hard to ever match that for many 5-star recruits.