At this point, I never think any player is coming back. If I am wrong, I get to be pleasantly surprised. The fact remains, kids come here to go to the NBA and even if they love their time at UK and don't want to leave, at the end, they will always choose the NBA. It is what it is.
Knox is going Pro
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I'm not sure how that looks bad on Cal. It may have been in Knox's best interest to return to Kentucky next season. If Cal believed that wasn't the case, he would not have advised him to return. You have never heard a story where Cal advised someone like John Wall to return, because he knew it was in their best interest to jump to the NBA.
Most UK fans assume Cal pushes everyone out the door, which is not the case. He gives them his input, and lets them make their own decision. Knox chose to do his own thing, which as we have seen in the past, sometimes works for guys and sometimes doesn't.
I wish his dad had kept his mouth shut but good luck to Kevin.
You are a great poster Saul but I have to disagree. I am very excited about next year and a couple of top players Cal could add to the roster. Add in that the team will have a huge advantage of jelling as a team in the summer games against foreign pros, it should be awesome year to be a Cat fan.
Contact the suicide prevention hotline, UK fans are about to hit them hard. Good grief, go after the kid because he has the opportunity to make millions. He could easily get injured next year, so jumping when it's clear you are going to be drafted only makes common sense. Some of you lack that.
Never was going to stay from the day he stepped on campus. The way the system works, there was never any need for him to.
The last few days have been posturing to keep the sheep believing it will be different after next season. Believe at your own peril.
The last few days have been posturing to keep the sheep believing it will be different after next season. Believe at your own peril.
Cal looks like a bit of a hypocrite to me in all this. Go ahead, tell me I am the devil for daring to question anything regarding Cal. I could care less.
I thought Cal always said if you are for sure first round you go. I could be wrong.
It’s a no win situation for the players with fans. If they are private the fans want to know what they or th family is thinking. If they are public and honest the fans like it unless the outcome isn’t what the fans want
I agree with a poster who reminded me that we are just as guilty as anyone for creating drama. I said players shouldn't be drama kings and he rebutted it by saying we adults create drama ourselves and I have to agree. Glad he called me out. He was right.
The devil? Don’t be so emotional man.
I’m just not sure how he looks like a “hypocrite?”
It’s been said he tried to get him to maybe consider staying? That’s awesome... but Knox seems to want to take Multiple millions of $$ instead.
What is Cal supposed to do? Not try and get anyone to stay in case they end up deciding to leave anyways?
You’re not making any sense .
How much less could* you care?
How much less could you care? I'm just wondering.
I’m making plenty of sense but you are a blind follower. He’s said since day one if you are round you go. Knox was always round 1.
No surprise. I don't think anyone on here thought that he was coming back. That was never the issue for most of us . Funny he and Shai didnt announce together like conn said .LOL.
I refused to get fooled. I always think they’re gonna leave. I remember after 2011 thinking Brandon Knight might return.
I think I might’ve joined a “Please Return Brandon Knight” Facebook group. Lmao.
I’m not that naive anymore. Plus I want the kids to do whatever they think is best for them. Let those birds fly.
I think I might’ve joined a “Please Return Brandon Knight” Facebook group. Lmao.
I’m not that naive anymore. Plus I want the kids to do whatever they think is best for them. Let those birds fly.
I hope so.
I’ll feel the same way as you if UK returns the guys it’s supposed to: Vanderbilt, Washington, Green, Gabriel, Richards.
No more critical transfers ala Matthews/Lee or bizarre defections to the g-league or a similar global leagues (Briscoe, Humphries). Maybe even a break on a fringe guy like Diallo to return.
I’ll be honest, I actually think we’ll see multiple transfers and a guy leaving (I don’t understand the all-in on Hagans/Montgomery if the staff felt good about everyone coming back outside SGA, Diallo, Knox) who we didn’t expect to leave. Knox returning would have covered a multitude of such events.
I’m just feeling ambivalent as a fan right now. I’d be shocked if all those guys I mentioned came back (excluding Diallo). The culture right now is all about fastest way to the league, and these guys historically mostly think they’re failures if they have to return.
That type of culture needs to change. Player retention shouldn’t seem like a mortal sin. This is the only place in America where it seems that way.
No, it built unnecessary hype up that he would return when many had him penciled in as a one and done since he signed with us. I'm not saying his dad was lying or had bad intentions, but it wasn't the best decision. If Knox announced today he was leaving without any prior commitments from his dad being made, you wouldn't see as much negativity about him leaving.
Or was it the media building up the situation for traffic and ad purposes? Probably that, but everyone tends to ignore how the media works.
Once again, anyone who didn’t think Knox and Shai were gone were livIng in a fantasy world. Diallo checking out doesn’t hurt the team in my opinion. If everyone else returns, this team is going to be outstanding.
The WHOLE bench? Are WE LOSING THE WHOLE BENCH? When did they declare?
Man. The world is coming to an end! NOOOOO!!!!!
*funny gif of world coming to an end*
I couldn't care less about your opinion. Proof of that being that you are now dead to me, lol. Dead and buried.
That's a great point actually. His dad was probably just stating facts (even tho I still believe he probably should have kept things more quiet), but the media loves to turn that stuff into clickbait to drive traffic to their website. It's a shame what "journalism" has turned into these days.
Meanwhile, 7 of the 9 teams that have won a title in the OAD Cal Era at UK have done so with overwhelmingly veteran teams. The two OAD teams (Duke, Kentucky) had multiple upperclassmen who acted as key contributors.
Point being: we are witnessing a system at Kentucky that doesn’t work as it presently stands, so “expecting them all to leave” every year basically is admitting defeat. Player retention is an absolute must going forward. I hope the staff is no longer afraid to embrace selling more than merely the fastest route toward the NBA.
Good luck. I know
I don't anyone that would turn down that kind of money.
I don't anyone that would turn down that kind of money.
Would you stop being so rational and sensible and let us big immature babies cry ourselves out !! (I hope you know I’m just joking).
Media drives this anticipation bus. It's hard not to get on it for the ride. It's comparable to weather people when a storm is bowling through. If they leave you hanging enough, then you'll come back to them for updates. It's how they drive up their ad prices.
What am I blindly following?
You’re genuinely making no sense at all.
I’m not sure what you’re upset about but maybe take a break ... just for a bit?
Cal is a hypocrite because he mentioned the possibility of positives to Knox returning?