Knox is going Pro
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I don’t need a break. You seem to. It’s all good man. You have two sets of rules. Many people do that as well.
I dont think Cal was really trying to get him to stay. Or at least, I don’t think Cal and his father were both wanting him to stay. If Dad and Coach are both saying it, then he probably listens and stays.
I'm really not even sure why this is a controversial take. And Cal may be course correcting, but we won't know until we either see the same level of roster turnover or more conventional teams being built.
People keep saying "surprised." Like surprise is even relevant here. No one should be "surprised," but it is disappointing. Especially in light of the talk about his return. People keep wondering why attendance is down and why after 30-40-50 years as a fan people find themselves less interested than ever. It's pretty ******* obvious to me why interest is waning.
You mean BLUE Devil, dontcha, Troll? And we don't care that you don't care. I think this makes Matt Jones look bad. And Tubby Smith. How 'bout them damn cheerleaders? Of course, none them played no part in this. Neither did Cal. The kid chose.
The only hypocrite is you. You aren't a UK basketball fan. You are a YOU fan.
How does one hunt a den? Do you sneak up on it from the kitchen? Love Cal, no coach out there better for UK.
The new paradigm of experienced shooters winning does not lend itself to OAD. Adapt and change or get buried. Most realistic people believe we will always have a talented but inexperienced team under Cal. They will get better throughout the season but won’t win a title. Then start over from scratch the next year.
Clearly...players first doesn’t always mean go pro. Not hard to understand.
yep, long athletic guys that the NBA covets are not as impactful in today's CBB.
Don’t ever assume that a guy with a lottery projection is coming back. It’s never happened, not even once, in the 9 years that Cal has been here. And it’s not going to. It goes against his entire recruiting pitch. He can’t tell these kids that Kentucky gives them the greatest chance at being OAD, and then turn around and ask them to stay when they’re projected to go lottery.
Terrence Jones says hi other than that you’re correct. It’s not just Kentucky I’m shocked when any projected lottery pick returns no matter what school they attend
Why is the only definition of players first for you that there only be instant gratification.
Is it impossible that Cal's best assessment for Knox is that another year sets him up better long term?
I think another season could mean POY potential and even a legitimate shot at being a top 3 pick. More maturity physically and mentally. Improvement in weaker areas as well as greater consistency meaning he can have a better opportunity to have quicker impact and fatten that 2nd contract?
Relax. Take a deep breath. Not everybody is leaving.
Even my anecdote talked about BK leaving in 2011. And we won in 2012.
And we're a few breaks away from challenging for titles in other years. The NCAA Championship is the hardest title to win by far in any sport.
Actually you're wrong. I just wasn't trying to make it long. It's another way of putting it. Definitely talking about momentum and what WE need while wishing him luck.
They come here to leave. If you guys aren't used to that by now, I don't know what else to tell you.
The devil? Don’t be so emotional man.
I’m just not sure how he looks like a “hypocrite?”
It’s been said he tried to get him to maybe consider staying? That’s awesome... but Knox seems to want to take Multiple millions of $$ instead.
What is Cal supposed to do? Not try and get anyone to stay in case they end up deciding to leave anyways?
You’re not making any sense .
How much less could* you care?
I do believe Cal has overblown the need for these guys and went too "all in" in some ways. But Cal has told the fan base he is going to look for returnees and shooters, and there's plenty of proof that he is. Cal might just have to wait for the message to take. He really is up the creek so far it's gonna take a minute to drift back against the current.
So the reason attendance is down across all sports across the country is because a kid who is a lottery pick decided to go to the NBA?
Get a grip. Listen to yourself. You can be disappointed without raving like a lunatic.
Do you all think if we all go on twitter and beg really hard we can get him to change his mind?
I wouldn't say fantasy world.
Name another top 15 pick and top 10 recruit that Cal openly recruited to return and the parents were making the case to do so?
Without putting much thought into it no one is coming to mind.
Cal talking about recruiting guys who can shoot and openly recruiting Knox to return tells me what I need to know. I feel like I've followed the guy for a long time , imo he's throwing us some hope because he probably knew this was coming.
I don't think for a second we've seen the last of the exits and we should as fans be concerned. We can like Knox and wish him well while not forgetting the program all together. This is why so many hate this system.
We haven’t seen the last of the exits. Shai is leaving and I bet Diallo does too.
No, it's down because the product is watered down, and no one stays around long enough for fans to feel invested. Attendance has been trending down in sports for over half a decade, but not at Kentucky. That's much more recent than the trend at large.
Again, anecdotally, you have dozens and dozens of posters on Rafter's talking about how they are just not as interested. It's not because "a" lotto pick decided to go pro.
College basketball over the last couple of decades has shown that the slope is slippery. I have believed for a while that trends in CBB are accurate depictions of what's to come. We've been seeing guys leaving without guarantees at all. Small sample size but just wait.
Vanderbilt
Knox
Shai
Diallo
And possibly (just Possibly) Pj.
And with that we won't compete for much. Lose 3 and I think we have a similar year.
Oh please. Name one top 10 recruit that plans to return. If you recruit the best, they are flight risks. If you recruit players planning to stay, it’s because they don’t have options.
You would have Cal go after pink elephants. Utter nonsense.