I read it. It does not make me change my opinion that we were founded as a secular nation
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Poppycock. Our judicial system is based on values that some Judeo Christian believers adhere to, sometimes. Those same values are equally adhered to, sometimes, by some believers of most other human religions plus agnostics and atheists.
Basically, while religious texts and teachings can paint a nice story when interpreted a certain way, the reality of the human experience has pretty much always been, and probably will always be, far different from that religious ideal, with religious zealots often exemplifying the very worst values known to humanity.
Wait a second, I thought Jeebus was the first one to think murder and stealing wasn’t a good idea 
The intellectual underpinnings of the Enlightenment, and the readings of the founders, focused on Roman (and, to a lesser extent, Greek) philopsohers which predate Christianity and gave little to no attention to Judeo thought. The concepts underpinning the founding came from these texts and philosophies. The list of founders who were Deist, and definitely not Christian, included a who’s who list such as Washington, Hamilton, Jefferson, Madison and Monroe (among others).
Anyone stating that this country is founded upon Jude’o Christian principles is either ignorant and manipulated by media or spinning.
Careful, talk like yours and mine could lead to another Inquisition.
Our history as a Nation is undeniably founded in Christian-Judeo roots. To simplify and deny this factoid is part of the continued indoctrination of students from the mid 1950’s until what we have witnessed the past 25 years. Your political parties are both made up of a majority of Christian’s and Jews. Keep spewing the BS that religion is the problem in the world . If you like a place that adheres to that way of thinking …I would suggest Russia , China, North Korea , Cuba all wonderful places to start.
My friend, I hope you are well.
The poster you responded to, in my opinion, is nothing of the sort you described. He is sober (not a complement, necessarily) and rational.
let’s get a drink when you are in the city.
Its been showing that the vaccines are a disaster over time
The initial marketing said the substances stay in the shoulder, and the body is free of them in a few days
In fact, toxic (and synthetic) mRNA travels everywhere and stays in the body (the longest study was 60 days). Vaccine is poisoning people with every booster. Don't get anymore shots and don't let them poison your kids.
"In this paper, we present evidence that vaccination induces a profound impairment in type I interferon signaling, which has diverse adverse consequences to human health. Immune cells that have taken up the vaccine nanoparticles release into circulation large numbers of exosomes containing spike protein along with critical microRNAs that induce a signaling response in recipient cells at distant sites. We also identify potential profound disturbances in regulatory control of protein synthesis and cancer surveillance. These disturbances potentially have a causal link to neurodegenerative disease, myocarditis, immune thrombocytopenia, Bell's palsy, liver disease, impaired adaptive immunity, impaired DNA damage response and tumorigenesis. We show evidence from the VAERS database supporting our hypothesis. We believe a comprehensive risk/benefit assessment of the mRNA vaccines questions them as positive contributors to public health.
Adverse effects of COVID-19 vaccines and measures to prevent them
Recently, The Lancet published a study on the effectiveness of COVID-19 vaccines and the waning of immunity with time. The study showed that immune function among vaccinated individuals 8 months after the administration of two doses of COVID-19 vaccine was lower than that among the unvaccinated individuals. According to European Medicines Agency recommendations, frequent COVID-19 booster shots could adversely affect the immune response and may not be feasible. .. As a safety measure, further booster vaccinations should be discontinued... In conclusion, COVID-19 vaccination is a major risk factor for infections in critically ill patients.
Adverse effects of COVID-19 vaccines and measures to prevent them - PubMed
Recently, The Lancet published a study on the effectiveness of COVID-19 vaccines and the waning of immunity with time. The study showed that immune function among vaccinated individuals 8 months after the administration of two doses of COVID-19 vaccine was lower than that among the unvaccinated...
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Jesus, whoever he was, is purported to have said some stuff I can agree about. Problem is, looking around, virtually nobody is doing much of that stuff with any kind of regularity.Wait a second, I thought Jeebus was the first one to think murder and stealing wasn’t a good idea
There are lots of good people on the planet, way more than bad people, IMO. But there is absolutely no correlation with any religions. Gotta look at it on an individual basis, one person at a time. Also gotta make huge allowances for human imperfections or else the good to bad person ratio suffers enormously.
It wasn’t that long ago that people with different opinions on any topic could have a civilized conversation or debate and walk away friends. Now we are so polarized that even families at Thanksgiving have to list which topics are not allowed to be discussed. Our political leaders are setting bad examples for everyone and encouraging verbal and physical confrontation if someone has a different opinion. I prefer the old way and respecting that others may have a different view than mine. The dialogue on both sides has gotten more militant and no one in power is trying to cool it down.
All I know is that guy Jesus is considered by millions upon millions to be the Light of the World … The True Messiah and has somehow managed to keep relevant for over 2000+ years. Don’t be troubled HE still LOVES you and someday you will be enlightened.
Now that last part is the key point … Jesus died for the imperfections of mankind.
Actually, it's pretty much what you learn in 101-level political philosophy class. Frida even explained it objectively and concisely without casting any judgment on religion. But keep ranting.[/QUOTE]
That’s the story. But I think Jesus died for the same pointless reason millions of other humans died - because humans can be extremely ****** to each other. And while the rule of law has helped a little, humanity is never very far from regressing right back to being really ****** to each other in great numbers.
And I’ve never seen any evidence that religion is helping in that regard. It’s just another excuse for humans to resort to the same unevolved us versus them mentality that existed when we lived in caves.
Its called 2022 "because Jesus" - cant separate western civilization from cultural Christianity
There is no escaping the fact that the US is part of Western Civilization, and not a free agent culturally.
Western Civilization is overtly Judaeo-Christian for 100s of years
Jesus didn't write anything down himself and that's a clue
Core Christianity isn't about religious hierarchies and sects
Its more about - Pinocchio
Recall the Island of Pleasure and people turning into donkeys
JC taught everyone is born with an original, fleshy donkey nature that wants to grow at the expense of the spirit.
Thus the saying "Whoever preserves his life will lose it"
In the original Greek the words meant "Whoever preserves his animal self and cravings, will lose his inner human grace and innocence.
The kicker is that people dont have to defeat their lower impulses as much as just admit to them and be sorry - then a new positive source of being alive shows and quiets the silent screams of addiction (lower self needing life) and despair.
People need to change but cant save themselves (the Puritans sort of took that self-flagellation angle).
JC said the core of teaching was "to become like a child again"
A child is born with an innocence and connection to a higher nature that most cultures seek to destroy immediately
A country like the US used to mostly prize a child's innocence and sanctity
Of course while that was happening there were barbarians and molesters but they were mostly on the margins - until now.
Now the "scientific" people are teaching kids perverted stuff at 5 yrs old
NYC 1956
There is no escaping the fact that the US is part of Western Civilization, and not a free agent culturally.
Western Civilization is overtly Judaeo-Christian for 100s of years
Jesus didn't write anything down himself and that's a clue
Core Christianity isn't about religious hierarchies and sects
Its more about - Pinocchio
Recall the Island of Pleasure and people turning into donkeys
JC taught everyone is born with an original, fleshy donkey nature that wants to grow at the expense of the spirit.
Thus the saying "Whoever preserves his life will lose it"
In the original Greek the words meant "Whoever preserves his animal self and cravings, will lose his inner human grace and innocence.
The kicker is that people dont have to defeat their lower impulses as much as just admit to them and be sorry - then a new positive source of being alive shows and quiets the silent screams of addiction (lower self needing life) and despair.
People need to change but cant save themselves (the Puritans sort of took that self-flagellation angle).
JC said the core of teaching was "to become like a child again"
A child is born with an innocence and connection to a higher nature that most cultures seek to destroy immediately
A country like the US used to mostly prize a child's innocence and sanctity
Of course while that was happening there were barbarians and molesters but they were mostly on the margins - until now.
Now the "scientific" people are teaching kids perverted stuff at 5 yrs old
NYC 1956
Iconic New York City skyscraper lit up in honor of Muslim holiday marking end of Ramadan
July 2015New York’s Empire State Building was lit in green late Friday to celebrate the Eid al-Fitr holiday that marks the end of Ramadan.
The Empire State Building famously shines specific colors for a number of religious holidays — pastel shades for Easter, blue and white for Hanukkah, and red and green for Christmas.
How the Southern Baptist Convention covered up its widespread sexual abuse scandal : NPRIts called 2022 "because Jesus" - cant separate western civilization from cultural Christianity
There is no escaping the fact that the US is part of Western Civilization, and not a free agent culturally.
Western Civilization is overtly Judaeo-Christian for 100s of years
Jesus didn't write anything down himself and that's a clue
Core Christianity isn't about religious hierarchies and sects
Its more about - Pinocchio
Recall the Island of Pleasure and people turning into donkeys
JC taught everyone is born with an original, fleshy donkey nature that wants to grow at the expense of the spirit.
Thus the saying "Whoever preserves his life will lose it"
In the original Greek the words meant "Whoever preserves his animal self and cravings, will lose his inner human grace and innocence.
The kicker is that people dont have to defeat their lower impulses as much as just admit to them and be sorry - then a new positive source of being alive shows and quiets the silent screams of addiction (lower self needing life) and despair.
People need to change but cant save themselves (the Puritans sort of took that self-flagellation angle).
JC said the core of teaching was "to become like a child again"
A child is born with an innocence and connection to a higher nature that most cultures seek to destroy immediately
A country like the US used to mostly prize a child's innocence and sanctity
Of course while that was happening there were barbarians and molesters but they were mostly on the margins - until now.
Now the "scientific" people are teaching kids perverted stuff at 5 yrs old
NYC 1956
In the most recent development, a damning inquiry found that some 216,000 children in France had been sexually abused by members of the clergy since 1950.
In the US, determined reporting by the Boston Globe newspaper (as captured in the 2015 film Spotlight) exposed widespread abuse and how paedophile priests were moved around by Church leaders instead of being held accountable. It prompted people to come forward across the US and around the world.
A Church-commissioned report in 2004 said more than 4,000 US Roman Catholic priests had faced sexual abuse allegations in the last 50 years, in cases involving more than 10,000 children - mostly boys.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-44209971
I like sheep.Its called 2022 "because Jesus" - cant separate western civilization from cultural Christianity
There is no escaping the fact that the US is part of Western Civilization, and not a free agent culturally.
Western Civilization is overtly Judaeo-Christian for 100s of years
Jesus didn't write anything down himself and that's a clue
Core Christianity isn't about religious hierarchies and sects
Its more about - Pinocchio
Recall the Island of Pleasure and people turning into donkeys
JC taught everyone is born with an original, fleshy donkey nature that wants to grow at the expense of the spirit.
Thus the saying "Whoever preserves his life will lose it"
In the original Greek the words meant "Whoever preserves his animal self and cravings, will lose his inner human grace and innocence.
The kicker is that people dont have to defeat their lower impulses as much as just admit to them and be sorry - then a new positive source of being alive shows and quiets the silent screams of addiction (lower self needing life) and despair.
People need to change but cant save themselves (the Puritans sort of took that self-flagellation angle).
JC said the core of teaching was "to become like a child again"
A child is born with an innocence and connection to a higher nature that most cultures seek to destroy immediately
A country like the US used to mostly prize a child's innocence and sanctity
Of course while that was happening there were barbarians and molesters but they were mostly on the margins - until now.
Now the "scientific" people are teaching kids perverted stuff at 5 yrs old
NYC 1956
He’s a seething cauldron of barely suppressed rage. It seems like he’s intentionally set out to behave the exact opposite of how Jesus said we should act towards one-another. Is there even a single post of his in the thread where he’s not lobbing weak insults at someone?Bible boy getting angry
I actually feel bad for him. He needs a hug.
It is your right to BELIEVE or disbelieve. You were given a FREE WILL at birth. That is also called having faith as HE said,” Not seeing but still believing”. … something which you should read up about HIS message to ALL of us. In this posting no one is advocating for ( us vs. them) . HE would never force you to believe in HIS words.
So what you are saying here is Jesus Christ is the reason for hate, evil , child abuse and all the worst that permeates our society in this world? Do you really believe HE is the reason ? You’ll need to try harder . If you believe that there is good then you also understand there is evil. Good will always overcome evil. To use Jesus Christ as your excuse is really very cowardly but you still will be forgiven in those final hours if you ask HIM.
If you are referring to me then I accept your scorn and hate. There is too much hate for each other everyday or have you not noticed . In your final moments you will remember HIS charge to all of us. Love each other as you love yourself. Goodnight
Oxford was founded in 1096 - the motto is Dominus illuminatio mea (The Lord is my light)
Cambridge was founded in 1209 and motto is Hinc Lucem et Pocula Sacra (From Here We Receive Light and Sacred Draughts.)
Do these universities and all the others that followed become illegitimate because of Jerry Sandusky?
Of course not.
You aren't thinking culturally and historically
All are sinners and people run amok
This is especially true in times of broad social collapse (Wiemar Germany for instance)
We have such a collapse taking place now
Actually its been taking place since the 1960s when concept of political liberty was replaced by pursuit of behavioral license (Frankfurt School at Columbia).
People in the West pretty much gave up on the idea anything was perverted
Thinking something was perverted was the "real problem."
Hollywood, colleges, churches, high schools, youth organizations etc are all prone to predators
Of course churches should be least prone but people in democracies stopped paying attention to churches
Even enemies of the churches protect them by ignoring that most abusers are homosexual pederasts abusing teen boys and not "pedophiles" abusing prepubescent children.
Its hard to protect children from homosexual abusers one on hand while the secular culture is absolving it on the other.
Of course now most people see the mistake made there now that children are the target
I agree, it's a wonderful quote and should be inspirational to other pro-lifers.👨👩
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None. Never interacted with him before, nor will I again. Possible he also posts under another name. Many of these type do so.
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Maybe, but he's been making similar sorts of personal attacks on four or five different people in the thread. And it's clear the four or five are clearly just having fun with him. Whereas he's pretty obviously not having any fun at all. Being angry on the internet is like hanging a sign that says "kick me" on one's back.
Like I said about him yesterday, I feel bad because he clearly has stuff bugging him that has nothing whatsoever to do with anybody in this forum or even the topic at hand. I hope he can resolve whatever it is soon - is no fun carrying toxic stuff around in our heads. IMO, forums should function as pure fun stress relievers, not stress producers. At least that's how they've always worked for me and, I assume (and hope), for most people.
I'd even help out if I could. I care as much about the living as I do about the unborn.
I think he's actually been a pretty decent guy here over the years and won't condemn him for a brief period of venting. I've been surprised by his behavior in the thread, given his humorous posts in the past. And, as I said above, I don't think it has anything to do with the topic at hand or you or me and anybody here.
Everybody goes through rough periods now and then. I'm guessing that's the situation here.
Our legal system is based on English Common Law, which came from the Angles and Saxons. Our political systems derived mostly from ancient Greece and other republican experiments since. Our system is really not very Judeo-Christian, though certainly there was influence. This is another historical revision the right has pushed just like saying "the pilgrims founded America." Our legal system has never had to go through a Biblical filter like it has in many other places (Spain, Italy, etc and even those places have legal systems based in Roman law, which predates Christianity).
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Majorly agree here, just as I roll my eyes when a public figure lectures society from a liberal perspective … but the take that he should be fired is literal garbage, lol, this isn’t the Soviet Union.
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