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chase07470

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So what am I just supposed to bite my tongue while I watch my university bury themselves in even more debt and negotiate against themselves for a coach who has done nothing at all in the last decade to warrant a HC opportunity besides being named Greg schiano? Nope that’s the idea of a message board is discussion, not my problem you don’t like my opinion. We’ll see in a few years whose right, but either way the point is hopefully in a few years when we’re on another coaching search we’ll actually consider an up and comer whose currently a HC at a smaller school who has proven the ability to win with creative offenses and hardnose defenses. You know, like we should have done this time around. But instead because this program has so little interest from current students and recent alumni that we just hired back the guy that the old heads or ‘boomers’ remember from 15 years ago just to appease them.

There is absolutely nothing in the last decade that anyone can point to and say, ‘this is why Greg will be a great coach for us!’.... it’s 100% a nostalgia hire. It’s extremely similar to lovie smith at Illinois and chip kelly at ucla, but hey keep on dreaming! Maybe you’ll be right and I’m wrong about all of this. Like I said, save my posts!
A coaching search in a few years? Dude, he has an EIGHT YEAR CONTRACT. You might as well find a new team right now if you hate the new coach of a "three wins in two years" team that is beginning a long, slog of a rebuild to fix the problems created by hiring coaches not named Greg Schiano.
 

DHajekRC84

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Anybody's argument in big time college football that starts with trashing the older alumn who have equity, experience, and financial skin in the game is weak. Go tell the other SEC, B1G, ACC teams not to pay attention to the invested base.

Young people trashing older people is growing old on me.

Save your own post "sir" and we'll see. Going way overboard to be negative. Your economics comments alone are short sighted. Us old farts will be paying for more seats and likely your ability to go to games free.

The ROI on Rutgers Football us going to be the best short term invest possible. What it us is years from now is tbd. But the critical bleeding is over.
 
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yessir321

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Anybody's argument in big time college football that starts with trashing the older alumn who have equity, experience, and financial skin in the game is weak. Go tell the other SEC, B1G, ACC teams not to pay attention to the invested base.

Young people trashing older people is growing old on me.

Save your own post "sir" and we'll see. Going way overboard to be negative. Your economics comments alone are short sighted. Us old farts will be paying for more seats and likely your ability to go to games free.

The ROI on Rutgers Football us going to be the best shirt term invest possible. What it us is years from now is tbd. But the critical bleeding is over.
Lol ok boomer, we’ll revisit in 3 years when we’re still a 3-4 win team. Maybe start working on the excuses now. I swear the obsession over a .500 football coach from a decade ago is strong here. This board is like watching Jerry Jones refusing to fire Jason Garrett for a week because he’s too emotionally tied to the situation.

Don’t get me wrong I understand the hire, Rutgers kept losing season ticket holders and all the boomers kept ranting about how they would drop their seats if schiano wasn’t the choice. It will be interesting to see in a few years what their reaction will be when it’s 2025 and have still haven’t gotten back to a bowl
 

tom1944

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Lol ok boomer, we’ll revisit in 3 years when we’re still a 3-4 win team. Maybe start working on the excuses now. I swear the obsession over a .500 football coach from a decade ago is strong here. This board is like watching Jerry Jones refusing to fire Jason Garrett for a week because he’s too emotionally tied to the situation.

Don’t get me wrong I understand the hire, Rutgers kept losing season ticket holders and all the boomers kept ranting about how they would drop their seats if schiano wasn’t the choice. It will be interesting to see in a few years what their reaction will be when it’s 2025 and have still haven’t gotten back to a bowl

Did I see in an earlier post that you would have liked to see the ECU coach hired?

He has a very good resume but I am not sure he would have been a reasonable hire after only 1 year.
 

yessir321

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Did I see in an earlier post that you would have liked to see the ECU coach hired?

He has a very good resume but I am not sure he would have been a reasonable hire after only 1 year.
Yes I did, Mike Houston. I actually started calling for him when he was back at JMU. He completely rebuilt that team into a national champion but more than that he has turned around every program that’s ever hired him dating back to starting in HS. This year at ECU he had them playing far more competitive football than years prior, give him another year or two their and they’ll be back bowling. I also liked the pick because I believed he was attainable for us and take a look at his press conferences and pre game speeches and tell me he wouldn’t have our fan base fired up?!

it doesn’t matter though at this point, schiano is here and we’re with him for the long haul. Here’s to Greg proving me wrong!
 

RUevolution36

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Lol ok boomer, we’ll revisit in 3 years when we’re still a 3-4 win team. Maybe start working on the excuses now. I swear the obsession over a .500 football coach from a decade ago is strong here. This board is like watching Jerry Jones refusing to fire Jason Garrett for a week because he’s too emotionally tied to the situation.

Don’t get me wrong I understand the hire, Rutgers kept losing season ticket holders and all the boomers kept ranting about how they would drop their seats if schiano wasn’t the choice. It will be interesting to see in a few years what their reaction will be when it’s 2025 and have still haven’t gotten back to a bowl
You should have donated more...or at all then.
 

RU848789

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Lol ok boomer, we’ll revisit in 3 years when we’re still a 3-4 win team. Maybe start working on the excuses now. I swear the obsession over a .500 football coach from a decade ago is strong here. This board is like watching Jerry Jones refusing to fire Jason Garrett for a week because he’s too emotionally tied to the situation.

Don’t get me wrong I understand the hire, Rutgers kept losing season ticket holders and all the boomers kept ranting about how they would drop their seats if schiano wasn’t the choice. It will be interesting to see in a few years what their reaction will be when it’s 2025 and have still haven’t gotten back to a bowl
Care to make a wager on RU not going bowling over the next 5 seasons? You pick the amount and the loser donates to the build fund. Also, what is your fascination with boomers? As per this thread, tons of non-boomers were just as vocal supporting Greg, especially any fan who went to RU games during the very successful Schiano era, including then-students, who would be in their late 20s to late 30s now.
 
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sct1111

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I do, not a ton but I donate $250 a year to the program (Big build fund). I’m 30, recently married and just got a house a couple years ago here in md so it’s what I can afford for now
So you were a student at RU when Greg was there and you still thought it was a bad hire?
 

sarye

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I do, not a ton but I donate $250 a year to the program (Big build fund). I’m 30, recently married and just got a house a couple years ago here in md so it’s what I can afford for now
It’s very cringe categorizing all Schiano supporters as boomers as if to dismiss that opinion. Especially since your opinion is in the minority within your demographic. Anecdotally, everyone in my circle wanted him as HC as well. We are all millennials same as you.

You are welcome to your own opinions of course but at some point you got to get on board and support the team if you are a fan of Rutgers football. He’s not going anywhere for a while and repeating the same talking points isn’t going to help or change that.

I will say that one key component you are missing is all the other things Schiano was able to get the school to commit to. A rising star (like Hafley as an example) wasn’t going to get Rutgers to commit to a large salary pool for coaching staff. Or commit to building new facilities to help with recruiting. They just don’t have the clout to make those demands. Schiano may not be the best coach out there, but besides someone like Urban Meyer, no one else was going to get the university to commit. We wouldn’t be able to currently afford Fran Brown, Gleeson, and all the other coaches we are bringing in.