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[chasepollard]

Being an NCAA athlete is a privilege not a right. No one is saying you can't do it they're just saying your eligibility must be over at a certain age

It is also about being a student.

You cannot govern privilege without tyranny. Well, if it's deemed unsafe I guess it can be governed...drugs and murder could be considered a privilege.

Full disclosure on my thoughts. This is 100% a Civil Rights violation because of the age requirement. If they were to remove that, I wouldn't have a leg to stand on. But, since like me, my kids will be 19 when they leave my house. It is proven that the older kids in their high school graduating class have more success than the younger kids. The NCAA just stripped that from my household if I want them to have their full eligibility. It would've been stripped from me. This is 100% for Football and Basketball, nothing more. It is a money control lever that will injure others by collateral damage.

IF, and I am not sure how this gets accomplished...IF a class action was filed through the ADA against the NCAA, they would lose.

 

[Chasingthirty-five]

When an athlete took and Olympic redshirt they filed for a season of competition waiver. Wrestling, Swimming and field hockey were the only 3 sport that had Olympic Redshirts I believe

Correct but again it’s the language. The top of that pic says “the new age-based rule”. The Olympic shirt falls under the old rules. They haven’t said explicitly it cannot be used if you’ve elected for the old system. Only that they won’t be a thing in “the new rule”. Very clearly have said you get to choose old rules v new rules so why would they only say this under something that is titled new rules.

Again, the intention is to get rid of all of it. They’ve done a piss poor job of being very explicit IMO. So it leaves room for speculation.

 

[Corby2]

It is also about being a student.

You cannot govern privilege without tyranny. Well, if it's deemed unsafe I guess it can be governed...drugs and murder could be considered a privilege.

Full disclosure on my thoughts. This is 100% a Civil Rights violation because of the age requirement. If they were to remove that, I wouldn't have a leg to stand on. But, since like me, my kids will be 19 when they leave my house. It is proven that the older kids in their high school graduating class have more success than the younger kids. The NCAA just stripped that from my household if I want them to have their full eligibility. It would've been stripped from me. This is 100% for Football and Basketball, nothing more. It is a money control lever that will injure others by collateral damage.

IF, and I am not sure how this gets accomplished...IF a class action was filed through the ADA against the NCAA, they would lose.

You were 19 before September 1 your Sr year HS? Most 1 year holdbacks aren't

 

[Corby2]

Correct but again it’s the language. The top of that pic says “the new age-based rule”. The Olympic shirt falls under the old rules. They haven’t said explicitly it cannot be used if you’ve elected for the old system. Only that they won’t be a thing in “the new rule”. Very clearly have said you get to choose old rules v new rules so why would they only say this under something that is titled new rules.

Again, the intention is to get rid of all of it. They’ve done a piss poor job of being very explicit IMO. So it leaves room for speculation.

They're not gonna allow one graduating class 2026 to have 6-7 years and all the other classes 5. The reason they made the rule was so you get 5 years and you are done. This is also about roster caps it streamlines things for everyone

 

[ionel]

Would 10 for 10 be fair?

 

[chasepollard]

You were 19 before September 1 your Sr year HS? Most 1 year holdbacks aren't

Now wait a minute. If that’s the rule, I’m not so far gone on this…but still gone, just closer.

That is making sense. Turn 19 in January, your clock starts 9/1 in which you’d be enrolled anyway. Is that correct?

 

[Chasingthirty-five]

They're not gonna allow one graduating class 2026 to have 6-7 years and all the other classes 5. The reason they made the rule was so you get 5 years and you are done. This is also about roster caps it streamlines things for everyone

You seem to be operating under the pretense that the NCAA makes rational decisions. I see the confusion now.

But really, end of discussion. I have said I believe you will be right, just don’t count out my theoretical until the fat lady sings.

 

[Corby2]

Now wait a minute. If that’s the rule, I’m not so far gone on this…but still gone, just closer.

That is making sense. Turn 19 in January, your clock starts 9/1 in which you’d be enrolled anyway. Is that correct?

Yep you can't be 20 before September 1 the year you enroll or you get 4. If you turn 20 September 1 the year you enroll you get 5 .
Mastny Iowa St commit has 1 year of HS remaining but he will be 20 next August 20th so he's gotta enroll this year or he will only get 4 years. Sounds like he's gonna enroll 2nd semester so he can have 5

 

[proud2bpokes]

Yep you can't be 20 before September 1 the year you enroll or you get 4. If you turn 20 September 1 the year you enroll you get 5 .
Mastny Iowa St commit has 1 year of HS remaining but he will be 20 next August 20th so he's gotta enroll this year or he will only get 4 years. Sounds like he's gonna enroll 2nd semester so he can have 5

Bo Bassett turns 20 on August 25. Does this rule apply to 2026 class?

 

[vhsalum]

Bo Bassett turns 20 on August 25. Does this rule apply to 2026 class?

nope. they get a pass.

 

[Old Number Nine]

Bo Bassett turns 20 on August 25. Does this rule apply to 2026 class?

It's interesting to note that Bassett is older that Jax.

 

[Corby2]

nope. they get a pass.

They get to choose between 4/5 and 5/5. The 5/5 starts in 2027 with no choice . The word grandfathered in keeps getting thrown around I don't see where they say that anywhere. Some seem to think that age doesn't matter for 2026 HS grads and they can take a grey shirt regardless of age and still get 5 years. My opinion is 2026 class gets the choice 4/5 or 5/5 that's what is meant when people say old rules it doesn't mean they can Olympic RS and get medical RS and not have to follow the new age rules because they graduated in 2026. Saying it starts in 2027 is saying once that happens no one will get a choice of 4/5 everyone will be 5/5

 

[Corby2]

@vhsalum my fear is that kids get screwecd out of a year because some compliance offices claim they interpret it one way which says 2026 is grandfathered and kids who are already 19 can take a grey shirt then enroll because compliance says you can. Then after the compete for 4 years the NCAA is gonna say your clock started during your grey shirt year. 4/5 or 5/5 is tracked by the university compliance the NCAA doesn't care which one you pick but they will in 4 years when you try to play a 5th .

VA tech is saying Bo gets 5 he's grandfathered in. I say he gets 4 according to the age rule he was 19 before September 1 so his clock started this year. Mastny will be 19 Aug 20 so he's gotta reclassify and enroll in January to get 5.

 

[vhsalum]

@vhsalum my fear is that kids get screwecd out of a year because some compliance offices claim they interrupt it one way which says 2026 is grandfathered and kids who are already 19 can take a grey shirt then enroll because compliance says you can. Then after the compete for 4 years the NCAA is gonna say your clock started during your grey shirt year. 4/5 or 5/5 is tracked by the university compliance the NCAA doesn't care which one you pick but they will in 4 years when you try to play a 5th .

VA tech is saying Bo gets 5 he's grandfathered in. I say he gets 4 according to the age rule he was 19 before September 1 so his clock started this year. Mastny will be 19 Aug 20 so he's gotta reclassify and enroll in January to get 5.

Typical NCAA, and what you're saying is probably what will happen.

 

[OSVICTOR]

It is also about being a student.

You cannot govern privilege without tyranny. Well, if it's deemed unsafe I guess it can be governed...drugs and murder could be considered a privilege.

Full disclosure on my thoughts. This is 100% a Civil Rights violation because of the age requirement. If they were to remove that, I wouldn't have a leg to stand on. But, since like me, my kids will be 19 when they leave my house. It is proven that the older kids in their high school graduating class have more success than the younger kids. The NCAA just stripped that from my household if I want them to have their full eligibility. It would've been stripped from me. This is 100% for Football and Basketball, nothing more. It is a money control lever that will injure others by collateral damage.

IF, and I am not sure how this gets accomplished...IF a class action was filed through the ADA against the NCAA, they would lose.

Could he graduate early? Many athletes are doing this.

 

[Corby2]

Could he graduate early? Many athletes are doing this.

His kids will be fine he didn't understand the rule. He didn't realize as long as you are 20 after Sept 1 the year you enroll you get 5 years

 

[chasepollard]

His kids will be fine he didn't understand the rule. He didn't realize as long as you are 20 after Sept 1 the year you enroll you get 5 years

Correct. I read it as if you turn 19 prior to 9/1, that year was your first year of eligibility.

I still think the rule is an ADA violation. There are many kids that have autism, asbergers, health issues, etc. that will lengthen their primary education term.

 

[Corby2]

Correct. I read it as if you turn 19 prior to 9/1, that year was your first year of eligibility.

I still think the rule is an ADA violation. There are many kids that have autism, asbergers, health issues, etc. that will lengthen their primary education term.

If they are athletes they might be a 4 year athlete if they do a 2 year program before enrolling .This is for athletes only . If it was an ADA or civil rights violation I imagine it's been brought up by lawyers during the process. It's a privilege to be an NCAA athlete not a right. The NCAA is a private organization so the athletes have no constitutional rights. But we will see what happens with lawsuits. Removing medical redshirts will definitely mean ADA lawsuits wouldn't shock me if some haven't been filed already about that

 

[Harleycowboy]

If they are athletes they might be a 4 year athlete if they do a 2 year program before enrolling .This is for athletes only . If it was an ADA or civil rights violation I imagine it's been brought up by lawyers during the process. It's a privilege to be an NCAA athlete not a right. The NCAA is a private organization so the athletes have no constitutional rights. But we will see what happens with lawsuits. Removing medical redshirts will definitely mean ADA lawsuits wouldn't shock me if some haven't been filed already about that

Ladd Holman at 215 and Lincoln Robideau are in the quarterfinals at Fargo. Both are number 1 seeds and Ladd won for matches by pin or tech. He does not look too heavy at 215 and has been very dominant. Robideau won 5 matches and dominant except in the round of 16 where he won 7 to 4 after being ahead 6 to 0 after the 1st period.

 

[Harleycowboy]

Ladd Holman at 215 and Lincoln Robideau are in the quarterfinals at Fargo. Both are number 1 seeds and Ladd won for matches by pin or tech. He does not look too heavy at 215 and has been very dominant. Robideau won 5 matches and dominant except in the round of 16 where he won 7 to 4 after being ahead 6 to 0 after the 1st period.

I watched Sammy Sanchez at 132 lose his 1st match by tech to an Oklahoma kid and I thought something is wrong. I checked closer and found a Samuel Sanchez at 126 from California who teched 4 other wrestlers to get to the quarters.

 

[SlickWillie18]

Lincoln Robideau looking pretty good at Fargo

 

[Harleycowboy]

Lincoln Robideau looking pretty good at Fargo

 

[Harleycowboy]

In the quarters Robideau who will be a junior next year beat Medlin rated 3rd at 157 and a senior this last year. His second period did not look good and he hung on. In the semi's he was ahead 3 to 0 in the 2nd period and ended up losing 8 to 3. He seemed gassed and staggering around some and lost 8 to 3 to Crosson a junior last year rated 16th at 165. He also could have had a much bigger lead but did not finish takedowns. Holman was ahead 6 to 0 early in the 1st period ended up losing his lead and getting pinned. It seems if he can get the match over early he looks great but he appeared to lose conditioning fast and his opponent came back. He tried to muscle his opponent over and couldn't but wouldn't quit and his position got worse and finally horrible. Basically, he pinned himself but poor conditioning seemed to be involved in his foolish wrestling. This is the 2nd big tournament where I have seen poor conditioning cost Holman. Sanchez was impressive winning by tech in the quarters and the semi's.

 

[HopkinsPoke]

Ladd reminds me a lot of Mikey White (for different reasons). Both can look utterly dominate against high level competition.. just look at Holman against Konopka (#11 p4p) today but both also have head scratching losses. For Mikey, he is/was obviously raw in the sport and won w 1-2 moves and a signicant athletic and strength advantage. For Ladd, he loves a head pinch and gator roll but can be undisciplined and fades hard late (which further reveals the discipline issue). I always want guys connected to us to win but the intangibles of Holman are there and I’m confident the things getting in the way of him being the top rated 215 would get corrected with a short stint in our room.

Hated we didn’t get to see Villasenior, Romero or Hodgins. Also, historically, we’d have an idea of future targets by Fargo but the new recruiting rules have made it harder to decide who I want to watch this weekend. Regardless, a lot of fun!

Last point… I’m so happy we got the hauls we did in the ‘25 and ‘26 classes. Zero shade to the upcoming classes but there is a noticeable drop off from those years. The incoming freshman and sophomore classes look promising, which should be in time for us to reload as the Jax/Robideau/Vega and Raneys/Dreshaun/Zinkin classes begin their eligibility cycles.

 

[Harleycowboy]

Ladd reminds me a lot of Mikey White (for different reasons). Both can look utterly dominate against high level competition.. just look at Holman against Konopka (#11 p4p) today but both also have head scratching losses. For Mikey, he is/was obviously raw in the sport and won w 1-2 moves and a signicant athletic and strength advantage. For Ladd, he loves a head pinch and gator roll but can be undisciplined and fades hard late (which further reveals the discipline issue). I always want guys connected to us to win but the intangibles of Holman are there and I’m confident the things getting in the way of him being the top rated 215 would get corrected with a short stint in our room.

Hated we didn’t get to see Villasenior, Romero or Hodgins. Also, historically, we’d have an idea of future targets by Fargo but the new recruiting rules have made it harder to decide who I want to watch this weekend. Regardless, a lot of fun!

Last point… I’m so happy we got the hauls we did in the ‘25 and ‘26 classes. Zero shade to the upcoming classes but there is a noticeable drop off from those years. The incoming freshman and sophomore classes look promising, which should be in time for us to reload as the Jax/Robideau/Vega and Raneys/Dreshaun/Zinkin classes begin their eligibility cycles.

Yes Holman dominated Konopka with a tech but then he got teched by Ward rated 8th at 215 in the 1st period. At the end of the Konopka match there was a challenge and Holman was really sucking in air and the 1st period was not over. He has potential but he needs to figure out he needs to commit to wrestling if he is going to be real good. Apparently, he will have a Mormon mission so he has time to figure out what he wants to do. Robideau won by tech over a Nebraska kid in the consolation semi's.

 

[okokzach]

Ladd wrestles hard and is always looking to score. Yes, that has cost him, but that's the type of guy we want. It's much harder to get a defensive guy to take risks than it is to get a risk-taker to be more calculated.

Young Robideau looked really good. I expect him to continue progressing.

Sammy Sanchez is such a stud. Hope to see him in orange one day.

 

[driad]

I wonder if craft from coweta will be an osu recruit?

 

[okokzach]

I wonder if craft from coweta will be an osu recruit?

There are 3 Oklahomans ranked at 113 lbs by Flo and all were at Fargo.

#3 Turner Ross (Jr) is committed to Illinois - places 7th @ 113
#4 Cason Craft (Jr) is committed to Mizzou - placed 3rd @ 113
#20 Cache Williams (So) is uncommitted - placed 2nd @ 106

 

[oberebo]

Holman has looked impressive at times but I have trouble seeing where he fits in the lineup. He is wrestling 215 so do we expect him to be at 197 in college or go up to heavy?

 

[chasepollard]

Holman has looked impressive at times but I have trouble seeing where he fits in the lineup. He is wrestling 215 so do we expect him to be at 197 in college or go up to heavy?

My bet is 97 for the time being.

 

[Corby2]

My bet is 97 for the time being.

Will be interesting if he gets much bigger he's probably a HWT . He was 209.6 at Fargo. I think he tries to stay 215-220 and be a 197

 

[HopkinsPoke]

Holman has looked impressive at times but I have trouble seeing where he fits in the lineup. He is wrestling 215 so do we expect him to be at 197 in college or go up to heavy?

If he does a 2 year mission, then he’d be 3 years out and would probably need at least a year to shake off the rust.

 

[chasepollard]

Will be interesting if he gets much bigger he's probably a HWT . He was 209.6 at Fargo. I think he tries to stay 215-220 and be a 197

Yeah, but he's got a body type that could stand to shed some "bad" weight. I am honestly pretty curious to see what he can do with more quickness and mobility (which would happen if he was 10-15 lighter.)

 

[FourCornersCowboy]

Group of 11 athletes challenge new NCAA eligibility rules in suit

Eleven Division I athletes -- all who depleted their eligibility in the 2025-26 season, have filed a federal class action lawsuit alleging that the NCAA's new eligibility rules adversely affected their ability to extend their college careers.

www.espn.com

 

[Corby2]

Yeah, but he's got a body type that could stand to shed some "bad" weight. I am honestly pretty curious to see what he can do with more quickness and mobility (which would happen if he was 10-15 lighter.)

I agree I think he's put on some bad weight trying to not be so small at 215 because he doesn't want to make the cut to 190 if HS was 195 I think he would be a 195.