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[chasepollard]

Being an NCAA athlete is a privilege not a right. No one is saying you can't do it they're just saying your eligibility must be over at a certain age

It is also about being a student.

You cannot govern privilege without tyranny. Well, if it's deemed unsafe I guess it can be governed...drugs and murder could be considered a privilege.

Full disclosure on my thoughts. This is 100% a Civil Rights violation because of the age requirement. If they were to remove that, I wouldn't have a leg to stand on. But, since like me, my kids will be 19 when they leave my house. It is proven that the older kids in their high school graduating class have more success than the younger kids. The NCAA just stripped that from my household if I want them to have their full eligibility. It would've been stripped from me. This is 100% for Football and Basketball, nothing more. It is a money control lever that will injure others by collateral damage.

IF, and I am not sure how this gets accomplished...IF a class action was filed through the ADA against the NCAA, they would lose.

 

[Chasingthirty-five]

When an athlete took and Olympic redshirt they filed for a season of competition waiver. Wrestling, Swimming and field hockey were the only 3 sport that had Olympic Redshirts I believe

Correct but again it’s the language. The top of that pic says “the new age-based rule”. The Olympic shirt falls under the old rules. They haven’t said explicitly it cannot be used if you’ve elected for the old system. Only that they won’t be a thing in “the new rule”. Very clearly have said you get to choose old rules v new rules so why would they only say this under something that is titled new rules.

Again, the intention is to get rid of all of it. They’ve done a piss poor job of being very explicit IMO. So it leaves room for speculation.

 

[Corby2]

It is also about being a student.

You cannot govern privilege without tyranny. Well, if it's deemed unsafe I guess it can be governed...drugs and murder could be considered a privilege.

Full disclosure on my thoughts. This is 100% a Civil Rights violation because of the age requirement. If they were to remove that, I wouldn't have a leg to stand on. But, since like me, my kids will be 19 when they leave my house. It is proven that the older kids in their high school graduating class have more success than the younger kids. The NCAA just stripped that from my household if I want them to have their full eligibility. It would've been stripped from me. This is 100% for Football and Basketball, nothing more. It is a money control lever that will injure others by collateral damage.

IF, and I am not sure how this gets accomplished...IF a class action was filed through the ADA against the NCAA, they would lose.

You were 19 before September 1 your Sr year HS? Most 1 year holdbacks aren't

 

[Corby2]

Correct but again it’s the language. The top of that pic says “the new age-based rule”. The Olympic shirt falls under the old rules. They haven’t said explicitly it cannot be used if you’ve elected for the old system. Only that they won’t be a thing in “the new rule”. Very clearly have said you get to choose old rules v new rules so why would they only say this under something that is titled new rules.

Again, the intention is to get rid of all of it. They’ve done a piss poor job of being very explicit IMO. So it leaves room for speculation.

They're not gonna allow one graduating class 2026 to have 6-7 years and all the other classes 5. The reason they made the rule was so you get 5 years and you are done. This is also about roster caps it streamlines things for everyone

 

[ionel]

Would 10 for 10 be fair?

 

[chasepollard]

You were 19 before September 1 your Sr year HS? Most 1 year holdbacks aren't

Now wait a minute. If that’s the rule, I’m not so far gone on this…but still gone, just closer.

That is making sense. Turn 19 in January, your clock starts 9/1 in which you’d be enrolled anyway. Is that correct?

 

[Chasingthirty-five]

They're not gonna allow one graduating class 2026 to have 6-7 years and all the other classes 5. The reason they made the rule was so you get 5 years and you are done. This is also about roster caps it streamlines things for everyone

You seem to be operating under the pretense that the NCAA makes rational decisions. I see the confusion now.

But really, end of discussion. I have said I believe you will be right, just don’t count out my theoretical until the fat lady sings.

 

[Corby2]

Now wait a minute. If that’s the rule, I’m not so far gone on this…but still gone, just closer.

That is making sense. Turn 19 in January, your clock starts 9/1 in which you’d be enrolled anyway. Is that correct?

Yep you can't be 20 before September 1 the year you enroll or you get 4. If you turn 20 September 1 the year you enroll you get 5 .
Mastny Iowa St commit has 1 year of HS remaining but he will be 20 next August 20th so he's gotta enroll this year or he will only get 4 years. Sounds like he's gonna enroll 2nd semester so he can have 5

 

[proud2bpokes]

Yep you can't be 20 before September 1 the year you enroll or you get 4. If you turn 20 September 1 the year you enroll you get 5 .
Mastny Iowa St commit has 1 year of HS remaining but he will be 20 next August 20th so he's gotta enroll this year or he will only get 4 years. Sounds like he's gonna enroll 2nd semester so he can have 5

Bo Bassett turns 20 on August 25. Does this rule apply to 2026 class?

 

[vhsalum]

Bo Bassett turns 20 on August 25. Does this rule apply to 2026 class?

nope. they get a pass.

 

[Old Number Nine]

Bo Bassett turns 20 on August 25. Does this rule apply to 2026 class?

It's interesting to note that Bassett is older that Jax.

 

[Corby2]

nope. they get a pass.

They get to choose between 4/5 and 5/5. The 5/5 starts in 2027 with no choice . The word grandfathered in keeps getting thrown around I don't see where they say that anywhere. Some seem to think that age doesn't matter for 2026 HS grads and they can take a grey shirt regardless of age and still get 5 years. My opinion is 2026 class gets the choice 4/5 or 5/5 that's what is meant when people say old rules it doesn't mean they can Olympic RS and get medical RS and not have to follow the new age rules because they graduated in 2026. Saying it starts in 2027 is saying once that happens no one will get a choice of 4/5 everyone will be 5/5

 

[Corby2]

@vhsalum my fear is that kids get screwecd out of a year because some compliance offices claim they interpret it one way which says 2026 is grandfathered and kids who are already 19 can take a grey shirt then enroll because compliance says you can. Then after the compete for 4 years the NCAA is gonna say your clock started during your grey shirt year. 4/5 or 5/5 is tracked by the university compliance the NCAA doesn't care which one you pick but they will in 4 years when you try to play a 5th .

VA tech is saying Bo gets 5 he's grandfathered in. I say he gets 4 according to the age rule he was 19 before September 1 so his clock started this year. Mastny will be 19 Aug 20 so he's gotta reclassify and enroll in January to get 5.

 

[vhsalum]

@vhsalum my fear is that kids get screwecd out of a year because some compliance offices claim they interrupt it one way which says 2026 is grandfathered and kids who are already 19 can take a grey shirt then enroll because compliance says you can. Then after the compete for 4 years the NCAA is gonna say your clock started during your grey shirt year. 4/5 or 5/5 is tracked by the university compliance the NCAA doesn't care which one you pick but they will in 4 years when you try to play a 5th .

VA tech is saying Bo gets 5 he's grandfathered in. I say he gets 4 according to the age rule he was 19 before September 1 so his clock started this year. Mastny will be 19 Aug 20 so he's gotta reclassify and enroll in January to get 5.

Typical NCAA, and what you're saying is probably what will happen.

 

[OSVICTOR]

It is also about being a student.

You cannot govern privilege without tyranny. Well, if it's deemed unsafe I guess it can be governed...drugs and murder could be considered a privilege.

Full disclosure on my thoughts. This is 100% a Civil Rights violation because of the age requirement. If they were to remove that, I wouldn't have a leg to stand on. But, since like me, my kids will be 19 when they leave my house. It is proven that the older kids in their high school graduating class have more success than the younger kids. The NCAA just stripped that from my household if I want them to have their full eligibility. It would've been stripped from me. This is 100% for Football and Basketball, nothing more. It is a money control lever that will injure others by collateral damage.

IF, and I am not sure how this gets accomplished...IF a class action was filed through the ADA against the NCAA, they would lose.

Could he graduate early? Many athletes are doing this.

 

[Corby2]

Could he graduate early? Many athletes are doing this.

His kids will be fine he didn't understand the rule. He didn't realize as long as you are 20 after Sept 1 the year you enroll you get 5 years

 

[chasepollard]

His kids will be fine he didn't understand the rule. He didn't realize as long as you are 20 after Sept 1 the year you enroll you get 5 years

Correct. I read it as if you turn 19 prior to 9/1, that year was your first year of eligibility.

I still think the rule is an ADA violation. There are many kids that have autism, asbergers, health issues, etc. that will lengthen their primary education term.

 

[Corby2]

Correct. I read it as if you turn 19 prior to 9/1, that year was your first year of eligibility.

I still think the rule is an ADA violation. There are many kids that have autism, asbergers, health issues, etc. that will lengthen their primary education term.

If they are athletes they might be a 4 year athlete if they do a 2 year program before enrolling .This is for athletes only . If it was an ADA or civil rights violation I imagine it's been brought up by lawyers during the process. It's a privilege to be an NCAA athlete not a right. The NCAA is a private organization so the athletes have no constitutional rights. But we will see what happens with lawsuits. Removing medical redshirts will definitely mean ADA lawsuits wouldn't shock me if some haven't been filed already about that

 

[Harleycowboy]

If they are athletes they might be a 4 year athlete if they do a 2 year program before enrolling .This is for athletes only . If it was an ADA or civil rights violation I imagine it's been brought up by lawyers during the process. It's a privilege to be an NCAA athlete not a right. The NCAA is a private organization so the athletes have no constitutional rights. But we will see what happens with lawsuits. Removing medical redshirts will definitely mean ADA lawsuits wouldn't shock me if some haven't been filed already about that

Ladd Holman at 215 and Lincoln Robideau are in the quarterfinals at Fargo. Both are number 1 seeds and Ladd won for matches by pin or tech. He does not look too heavy at 215 and has been very dominant. Robideau won 5 matches and dominant except in the round of 16 where he won 7 to 4 after being ahead 6 to 0 after the 1st period.