Haarms Announcing Tomorrow

ScrooDook92

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Cal will pull a rabbit out of the hat. Banchero or Kuminga would be better than Haarms.
He isn't pulling any of those guys. The only reason he got two top #5 picks is because there is an overall drop of talent in the program. Playing time is there in bulk. Those two picks also felt Cal would be losing a bunch of players. He's done. Great representative, gets kids that by and large stay out of trouble and go to class. He can't build teams when elite recruits aren't there. I do think he was able to build great teams at Memphis without all the elite recruits, but something changed in Cal.
 

Gassy_Knowls

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He isn't pulling any of those guys. The only reason he got two top #5 picks is because there is an overall drop of talent in the program. Playing time is there in bulk. Those two picks also felt Cal would be losing a bunch of players. He's done. Great representative, gets kids that by and large stay out of trouble and go to class. He can't build teams when elite recruits aren't there. I do think he was able to build great teams at Memphis without all the elite recruits, but something changed in Cal.

Lol
 

justin_uk_5

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Dave you are a good guy who has an opinion just like the rest of us. Things could have changed in the last few hours. It could have been UK earlier today and Haarms changed his mind. Doesn't mean you were wrong if a kid changes his mind.
Of course things changed. He has never been wrong... he was right and things changed. Like clock work. If Dave would be a normal fan like the rest of us, but no... he has to pretend to know when he’s just guessing.
 
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BassProCat

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He isn't pulling any of those guys. The only reason he got two top #5 picks is because there is an overall drop of talent in the program. Playing time is there in bulk. Those two picks also felt Cal would be losing a bunch of players. He's done. Great representative, gets kids that by and large stay out of trouble and go to class. He can't build teams when elite recruits aren't there. I do think he was able to build great teams at Memphis without all the elite recruits, but something changed in Cal.

How is Puke looking next year?
 

bbnkat02

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What a weird turn.

Honest question. Are kids using UK to gain attention and then do whatever they want to do?

I like Pope, but it makes NO sense for this kid to go there if he wants to be an NBA anything. He will get little to no exposure there (unless he drops 25-30 a game).

I just don’t understand all these players taking the easy route.
 
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mc140

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Haarms needed to drop down a level if he wanted to play more than he did at Purdue. BYU fits that description.
 
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ZaytovenCat

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The sky was falling on here last year when Blackshear decided to go to Florida. How did that work out? UK turned out to be better off with Nick Richards than Blackshear.
Since there was no tournament it ended up not mattering but Blackshear would have took EJ spot, not Nick’s. And yes, we would have been much better off with KB than EJ.

EVen with Haarms next year was gonna be average at best. Now.... I’m hoping there’s not a season. Maybe if Cal has over a full year to recruit for one specific season he might have a chance to win another title.
 

arenk

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He isn't pulling any of those guys. The only reason he got two top #5 picks is because there is an overall drop of talent in the program. Playing time is there in bulk. Those two picks also felt Cal would be losing a bunch of players. He's done. Great representative, gets kids that by and large stay out of trouble and go to class. He can't build teams when elite recruits aren't there. I do think he was able to build great teams at Memphis without all the elite recruits, but something changed in Cal.

Remember Zimmerman, Newman, Allen, Bolden? How did it work out for those players and others I didn't mention who chose schools other than UK?
 
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We are not hoping this guy is nothing he has proved it at the highest level, shagari and woo I love them both but they couldn't hold this boys jock strap !! He is a rim protector and a good mid range shooter as well as rolling to the basket ,also with the team we got coming this guy if he gets us 6/7 rebs and a few blocks is all we will need!!

That’s not what I was saying. He said offer someone 7’2-7’4 every year because of their size, so I pointed out the Tubby argument. Easy to draw the line between those 2 comments.
 
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Hey Nick. Nick Richards. There’s a guy here who wants to talk to you.

Oh yeah, a guy who was coached by Cal and Kenny Payne EVERY DAY for 3 years, and JUST turned the corner.

But Matt Haarms, who with CoronaVirus will probably get a month or two under Cal before the season begins, will completely overhaul his game and no longer become foul-prone?

You’re a good poster, but please explain that to me?
 
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bucsrule8872

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And at this point in the process, the real options are only going to come from the reclass category, not the bargain bin grad transfer market.

It’s still April. Things are likely going to get crazy in May and June when kids start to finish up their classes. Some serious reclassing will happen because it is going to be much easier to reclass.

Also, the transfer rule COULD change. I think they vote next month. If they change the rule and it goes into effect immediately, there will be a flood of talent enter the portal. It will be crazy if it happens.

Cal will likely have plenty of room while other coaches might already have their rosters set.

So many possibilities this summer. Cal is very patient. I think that will pay off.
 

bluegrasshickory

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Sure we do. He had an offer to play for a coaching staff that just turned Nick Richards from a project into a first rounder, and that had produced guys like Davis and Towns and Noel and Randle and Cousins and WCS and on and on.

Or he could play for a mid Major that gets on national TV twice in November and hasn’t produced an NBA big since Shawn Bradley.

So you take on the challenge and go for it or you take the easy road, then go play in Belgium.

The thought process is the same as the above average guitar player who gets a shot with a top national act, but decides to stay in Milwaukee. Or the promising scholar who gets invited for a semester try out at Harvard, but decides to stay at Cleveland State.

Some people don’t believe in themselves so they rationalize staying small time.
nick went in the first round? i'll be darned.
 
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kyjeff1

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If we land him which I think we will....

We at times could go:

Ware 6’6
Boston 6’7
Brooks 6’7
Jackson 6’9
Haarms 7’3

That would be the tallest lineup in UK history.
Did you fact check this? That doesn't sound right. Our 2010 and 2015 rosters had to be taller across the board. Especially the 15 team.
 
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Well SOB. That sucks. Maybe Haarms feels like he isn’t good enough to play Kentucky? Always had a fear he would get torched on defense under Cals system. Not athletic enough.

Well it has been proven the past 2 years that unathletic bigs get exposed in pick and roll situations with our defensive scheme. Reid and Nate both got singled out multiple times per game in those situations to get them on a quick guard that they couldn't handle.
 

kyjeff1

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I doubt he's going to change very much about his style- a guy who is foul prone will keep being foul prone.

I agree that certainly played a big part, but there were plenty of games where he was not in foul trouble (he only averaged 2 fouls/game), where he still played extremely limited minutes.

I did not watch enough of Purdue to know why, but either way, we NEED another big who can play significant minutes at the 5.
Problem is, the refs in the BIG10 don’t call as many chippy fouls as they do in the SEC. There is a stark difference between the two leagues.

When you watch BIG10 games, those teams are allowed to hammer each other, especially in the paint. In the SEC, everything is a foul.

Maybe that will change with the new head of SEC officiating, but I doubt it.
 
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UK90

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Problem is, the refs in the BIG10 don’t call as many chippy fouls as they do in the SEC. There is a stark difference between the two leagues.

When you watch BIG10 games, those teams are allowed to hammer each other, especially in the paint. In the SEC, everything is a foul.

Maybe that will change with the new head of SEC officiating, but I doubt it.

Yep, this is a reason why Haarms might not've been a good fit in the SEC.

He had issues with being foul prone in the Big 10, which allows far more physical contact than the SEC. If you're foul prone in the Big 10 then you're probably gonna be fouling out of games before halftime with SEC refs.
 
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_ukcat

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I tend to agree with what the posters saying about Haarms getting exposed in Cal's defensive scheme and how fouls are called in the SEC. Sure he be great to have but can see him seeing he just not a fit here at UK.