Im going to laugh so hard if Brown chooses the G League! They will have kept Shaka for nothing.
Greg Brown announcing tomorrow
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The 81 year NCAA history of this program and all its accumulated successes are the precise reasons so many of us expect the absolute best from those who run our program.
Success doesn't breed contentment. Not in the scientific, spiritual, academic, relational, financial, or sports worlds. It leads to a desire for deeper forms of success.
Pointing to the "most wins" as some reason to lessen expectations simply won't work with a program that has over eight decades of leading the college basketball universe.
This is Kentucky.
I’m not sick of #1 recruiting classes! I love #1 recruiting classes! I’m sick of people like you that think that’s all we need. #1 classes full of future NBA all stars, sure that would probably work. But these classes we’ve been getting are not full of those. We have to have returning players to complement what we have coming in. You’re comprehension is embarrassingly bad.
Brown is not going to play center in collage. He is not a big so he is not coming to UK. It will be either Texas or G' League. I am going to mow my yard as soon as it is dry and not waste my time see where he is picking.
So if we recruited 2 stars with zero professional hopes, that would make you happy? Somehow I suspect you would cry even louder if Cal started doing that.
Speaking for myself:
I'd gladly take the "best of the best" class every year like the one we had with Wall and Boogie, even if it means getting waxed in the tournament from time to time. I like to follow the best players when they're in the NBA, and I also know that since 2008 Cal is winning over 36 games per year when he has a top 5 pick on his roster versus about 28 games/year when he doesn't have one. The sample size is more than sufficient to make the case that he flourishes with freshmen studs.
Get me the most talent available. Pay them if you have to.
I'd gladly take the "best of the best" class every year like the one we had with Wall and Boogie, even if it means getting waxed in the tournament from time to time. I like to follow the best players when they're in the NBA, and I also know that since 2008 Cal is winning over 36 games per year when he has a top 5 pick on his roster versus about 28 games/year when he doesn't have one. The sample size is more than sufficient to make the case that he flourishes with freshmen studs.
Get me the most talent available. Pay them if you have to.
What in the hell are you talking about? When did I say anything about recruiting 2 stars? I specifically said in the post YOU REPLIED TO that I love #1 classes. But that’s not enough. How about recruiting a few 4 stars role players without the premise of NBA ASAP? And then DONT recruit over them!
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In a debate, you always can identify the one who is losing by how loud and rude he shouts his position.
I will look later but will not be disappointed because he is not coming to UK.
Okay great - here is the problem laid out explicitly. Glad you said it.
How?
There are tons of four stars that aren't even major conference D1 contributors until their junior or senior year. This is true under every coach at every program.
So what do you do when you inevitably recruit that kid to fill the newly opened spot? Say you reserve the one spot for him and give him a year to himself (which is risky enough already and would piss lots of fans off). If he's not showing any signs of improvement by the Spring, you still leave that spot wide open for him next year?
I'm not saying Cal's system is perfect - every system has flaws. I just don't see how what you propose is realistic.
I learned that phrase when OTHERS said it to ME!!
(Deservedly, I must confess)
Lol the one that is losing is the person that puts words in people’s mouths, says irrelevant crap that doesn’t make sense, and brings nothing to the discussion.
I know I called you a wheelbarrow once and it with no handles...
Are we jealous? Not pointing this directly to you but it seems the end game to a lot of dissent is Cal's pay check. He was able to get it, leave it at that. Cal NEVER held a gun to UK's head when they made the agreement. Don't begrudge Cal his dough, just go out and try to get more on your own.
What Cal makes should not affect you or others. You should be happy for him and others you may meet that are successful. (As long as they didn't steal, lie, cheat, or kill for it.)
This response doesn't make any sense.
How many millions would you have to pay him to reverse gravity?
You either overrecruit a spot or you will have gaps in the roster some years. It's completely unavoidable.
The actual solution to the problem is recruiting guys ranked 40-60 who understand that if Cal doesn't get them drafted in 1 year, it's perfectly normal - that they have a reasonable chance to beat out a 5 star freshman as a junior. The question is how do you know who those guys are? Many kids ranked around there think that they're just being underrated.
I'm curious how you recruit a few 4 stars and then not recruit over them? Also..Shai Gilgeous-Alexander was a 4 star and left for the NBA. That's what good players do here.
That’s exactly what I’ve been saying. Don’t recruit them with the promise that they’ll be in the nba after one year. I’m convinced that’s what Cal does.
But yet in his press conferences he always says every players journey is different.
I think these kids have it embedded in their brains from the time they get to aau ball that they are future lotto picks and it snowballs from there.
Im here before the freakout if we don't get him. "Oh but he had the signed folder!" The reason these guys do this is to get the massive social media BBN army to follow them. Its the worst part of our fanbase and they keep falling for the same stuff.
I agree he's probably not coming here, but what if Jackson starts at the 5 and Brown plays the stretch 4 role. That's what he will play in the NBA.
I don't think anyone will be upset over this.Supposed insiders haven't given people false hope over him at all.It's well known he isn't coming here.
He promises the 45th ranked kid that he'll be in the league one year? Is that really what you believe in your heart of hearts?
Most reasonable people will not be upset. Its the minority that will be shocked when he was stringing them along for social media followers. Some of those same people then wish bad things on a player. This is definitely not unique to our fan base by any means. We saw this when Knox committed to UK.
Well what do you say when the kid and his parents meet with you and ask you "what is your plan for my son?" Do you say "well, I plan on having him ride the bench and hope he improves enough to beat out a freshman 5 star 3 years from now." Guess what, the kid is going to Nova, Michigan, etc.
It would be best to get a player that understands he’s not going to the nba after one year and won’t transfer. Develop him for 2-3 years and THEN dont recruit over him. By that time a seasoned player developed by the coach to do exactly what he wants would be more valuable