Ferentz not retiring.
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There are so many programs out there chasing their tails, and the longer they’re in that mode, the harder it is to get out of it. Some of them voluntarily entered that hamster wheel by chasing the “next level”. Nebraska and Wisconsin immediately come to mind as they’re our neighbors. Penn State might be entering their version of purgatory too.
Do I think Kirk is infallible? Hardly! But we have it really good with him, and if I had to pick five coaches to get us to the playoffs in the next three years, he’s one of them. The overall health of the program has actually been improving, which is unheard of for a program led by a 70-year old coach.
I think 2026 will have some lumps and bumps as we’re going to put a very young team on the field. But I think we are in GREAT shape to be a playoff contender in 2027 & 2028. OSU and Oregon are, in my opinion, the only sure things in this conference in the immediate future. Iowa, USC, Michigan and Indiana are poised to tussle for the coveted 3 and 4 spots. MAYBE Penn State, but I think they may have screwed themselves for a couple years.
Every year that goes by, seeing all the turmoil in the sport and the numerous forces working against a program like Iowa…yet Kirk keeps it going. It’s a shame more don’t recognize how impressive it is.
Do I think Kirk is infallible? Hardly! But we have it really good with him, and if I had to pick five coaches to get us to the playoffs in the next three years, he’s one of them. The overall health of the program has actually been improving, which is unheard of for a program led by a 70-year old coach.
I think 2026 will have some lumps and bumps as we’re going to put a very young team on the field. But I think we are in GREAT shape to be a playoff contender in 2027 & 2028. OSU and Oregon are, in my opinion, the only sure things in this conference in the immediate future. Iowa, USC, Michigan and Indiana are poised to tussle for the coveted 3 and 4 spots. MAYBE Penn State, but I think they may have screwed themselves for a couple years.
Every year that goes by, seeing all the turmoil in the sport and the numerous forces working against a program like Iowa…yet Kirk keeps it going. It’s a shame more don’t recognize how impressive it is.
When this dude egg croaks, his headstone will have big bold letters...
"He was happy with Outback and Duke Mayo Bowls"
So KF should do better than 9 wins a year at Iowa
Yet, Penn State appears to be poised to hire Matt Campbell from ISU with these results, while playing in a weaker conference.
Why? Because they are factoring in the difficulty of winning at ISU. What the expected number of wins / year is at an ISU vs what has he produced.
What amount of wins per year at Iowa would make you guys happy?
He has beaten Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, USC, and Indiana in the past. Do you really expect this to happen on a consistent basis?
7-9 vs Michigan little under 50%
11-9 vs Penn State little over 50%
2-10 vs Ohio State the most dominant team by far during the KF era.
Matt Campbell was:
4-5 against Texas little under 50%
2-8 against Oklahoma similar to Iowa’s Ohio State results
Penn State apparently thinks Matt Campbell is a pretty good coach, to the point of trying to hire him.
Yet, there are Hawk fans that think KF is not a good coach, regardless of what the stats say. Apparently he needs to beat the top teams in the league half the time or better? Give me a break with that shid.
Yet, Penn State appears to be poised to hire Matt Campbell from ISU with these results, while playing in a weaker conference.
Why? Because they are factoring in the difficulty of winning at ISU. What the expected number of wins / year is at an ISU vs what has he produced.
What amount of wins per year at Iowa would make you guys happy?
He has beaten Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, USC, and Indiana in the past. Do you really expect this to happen on a consistent basis?
7-9 vs Michigan little under 50%
11-9 vs Penn State little over 50%
2-10 vs Ohio State the most dominant team by far during the KF era.
Matt Campbell was:
4-5 against Texas little under 50%
2-8 against Oklahoma similar to Iowa’s Ohio State results
Penn State apparently thinks Matt Campbell is a pretty good coach, to the point of trying to hire him.
Yet, there are Hawk fans that think KF is not a good coach, regardless of what the stats say. Apparently he needs to beat the top teams in the league half the time or better? Give me a break with that shid.
I expect Iowa to be able to beat a ranked opponent more frequently than every 5 years. I don't think that's asking for too much.
I agree with that, and through most of KF’s career, they have.
The BF era and getting through the aftermath in TL’s first 2 years are outliers in the overall record.
Yeah silly me for thinking Iowa could be better. Lol.
Well now that Jimmy Rogers is spoken for I would have no idea…
This year does not count as being in the mix.Sounds good. I'd like to drill down on that a little if you don't mind.
1. Are these just your expectations? Or are you suggesting what Beth's expectations should be? Beth can have "expectations". The rest of us pretty much just have "hopes".
2. You say "Iowa's expectations". Should those be the same expectations at Wisconsin, Nebraska, Illinois or Minnesota? If not, why not?
3, "Regularly" being in the mix for the playoffs. Does this year count as being "in the mix"?
I'm not trying to challenge your expectations. Those are up to you. Just picking your brain a little.
You're in the mix if people are talking about you during championship week. BYU was in the mix. Miami, Vanderbilt, Texas, Miami, Notre Dame, Alabama. They are in the mix.
C'mon, man. That 2015 team beat two 10-win teams and was a 4th down stop away from being #3 in the CFP. This team's most impressive win was Penn St (Highest on Massey Composite at #35, but only 6 wins and was in absolute turmoil with no coach when they played us).
I guess I'm not as impressed with losing close games against every team worth a sh*t on the schedule as you are.
Why do you think Iowa won’t make the CFP under Ferentz? They were a whisker away from at least 10-2 this year, which would have qualified them for the CFP. Your own post said they can win 10 games under Ferentz.
Kind of like Fickle was going to transform Wisconsin into a passing juggernaut.
Yep, Iowa was definitely in the mix for the CFP throughout this year.Sounds good. I'd like to drill down on that a little if you don't mind.
1. Are these just your expectations? Or are you suggesting what Beth's expectations should be? Beth can have "expectations". The rest of us pretty much just have "hopes".
2. You say "Iowa's expectations". Should those be the same expectations at Wisconsin, Nebraska, Illinois or Minnesota? If not, why not?
3, "Regularly" being in the mix for the playoffs. Does this year count as being "in the mix"?
I'm not trying to challenge your expectations. Those are up to you. Just picking your brain a little.
I wouldn’t call two games a “whisker away”Why do you think Iowa won’t make the CFP under Ferentz? They were a whisker away from at least 10-2 this year, which would have qualified them for the CFP. Your own post said they can win 10 games under Ferentz.
2015 we were a paper tiger dude. We got smoked by Stanford. Would have been destroyed by Alabama had we won the B1G championship.
After 2028, that's possible. After 2027 or after 2029 also possible. Heck, after 2030? That's possible too.
I doubt Kirk or Beth waste any time reading this board, so it doesn't matter what I think.
Beth could give him another year- especially after the '29 championship season.
That's a totally different argument. SOS in '15 wasn't as tough as this season, but we still beat a few teams better than anyone we beat this year, and coaching a team through an undefeated season is a hell of an accomplishment. Also, it's a bit unfair to judge the entire season on the Rose Bowl, where Big Ten teams have gone to die for decades.
Yeah, this argument that 2025 is more impressive is bonkers.
Yeah, former players are never known to use hyperbole when speaking about their coach, especially when their old lady is currently employed by the athletic department.