I think Kirk is getting better, he’s getting better with the portal and recruiting, letting Lester run the offense. The only game I felt e were out coached in, was Iowa State, maybe USC.
This is where I am at but you said it in a much kinder way than I do.Almost exactly where I am at. I have absolutely no confidence that the Hawks will win anything of note with Kirk at the helm going forward. I will not argue that 8-4 is better than some, but I would rather have a boom or bust cycle than what we have now. Give me a playoff run and a couple down years in between while the program reloads. It would be nice for the hawks to be nationally relevant some seasons again.
It’s been 10 years since we actually competed for a conference title (not played in the title game….those were not competitive). 20+ since we won a title…And I don’t see a future where this program makes the playoffs. So, 8-4….yay I guess?
I'll disagree with you in regard to portals. He has brought in 2 broken QB's, a bunch of low G5/FCS cast off WR's, some OL who never see the field due to injuries or ability. He's done okay on the defensive side of the ball, but only barely.I think Kirk is getting better, he’s getting better with the portal and recruiting, letting Lester run the offense. The only game I felt e were out coached in, was Iowa State, maybe USC.
Rusty Feth (OL) was a starter and he was pretty good. Guy that came this year got hurt in fall camp or pregame game 1I'll disagree with you in regard to portals. He has brought in 2 broken QB's, a bunch of low G5/FCS cast off WR's, some OL who never see the field due to injuries or ability. He's done okay on the defensive side of the ball, but only barely.
KF will always be about recruiting and developing HS kids and I would very surprised if he chases after and pays P4 players. Maybe getting burned by Proctor is a factor, IDK.
In any case, KF will retire on his terms I guess. I would be very surprised if there isn't a deal in place for a retirement date with AD. I do not see him getting an extension.
Oh they think someone like Lane Kiffin or Nick Saban is gonna beat down the door to get in thereHonest question for those who want Ferentz gone: Who would you bring in that can surpass his success at Iowa?
Why is the stadium still full then? You just smarter than everyon else?And your opportunity as well. I have probably been a Hawkeye fan (and thru it all) nearly 70 years. Your self-appointed great fan BS means nothing except you love not winning championships.
He has probably been divorced a few timesMust suck going through life with such irrational expectations, but congrats?
Lol.
End of first half vs. Penn State.Good post. And I agree with you.
But, you also bring up clock management. It seems to be an albatross around his next to the fans on this board. But I don't see it that way.
In this season - when did clock management cost the Hawks a chance to win or even to score? There were fans complaining about clock management after the MSU game, in which the Hawks walked-off with a game winning FG and ended the first half with a FG attempt.
Got some examples?
Oh yeah anyone we offer would just haul tail to get here and stay forever and ever.Very few come to mind for me, but Brian Hartline would have completely transformed the Iowa program. You can argue whether that transformation would have been negative or positive, but you know that the talent on the offensive side of the ball, particularly at QB and WR would likely jump significantly and the Iowa image as a place where QB's and WR's go to die would immediately be put in the past.
And 99% of the players are loyal as hell to him. Tells you a lot about his characterSeason ticket holder for 40 years. Attended my first game 61 years ago. I remember the down years, how many big championships under Hayden, Under Evy? Kirk is right there with them. 8 or more wins for 10 years straighg, I'm a realist and happy with that.
Look at the $$$ at OSU, Michigan, Oregon,
USC, etc. Kirk does more with less.
I thought Lester is the savior? We moved up to 60th in offense in 2025. Trend is in the right direction.I figured it was too much to expect Capt Fossil to retire early.
More boring, inept Offense on the way.
Phil's best performances being wasted.
That would be called firingCan’t Beth impose some kind of mandatory retirement age?
Hell no they don't. They just want their team to do that. Like people with diet, exercise, financial matters, personal relationships, etc etc etcI’m sure most of these guys put similar expectations on themselves in the workplace too.
They expect to be able to outperform their co-workers who have built in advantages over them. If they don’t, they ask to be fired.
Honest question for those who want Ferentz gone: Who would you bring in that can surpass his success at Iowa?
We played Penn State a lot. We beat them as much as they beat us. Who else from the East, play Ohio State every year? MIchigan only got good when Harbaugh brought in Connor Stallions. We beat them in 2016 when they were #2. Then Stallion came on scene in later years. What other "east" teams were we supposed to be afraid of?Since were being honest, the creation of the Big Ten West allowed his tenure to endure longer than it otherwise would have. Those win loss records would have been majorly impacted.
Yeah, I think KF worries a lot about the opponent getting the ball back. And given the number of times the defense has allowed points in the last couple of minutes of the half, maybe it's warranted. It's a conservative approach for sure.End of first half vs. Penn State.
There was another game, I can’t remember against who, where Iowa had 3 timeouts with over a minute left and was trying to score before halftime. Iowa drove to around the 30 yard line, didn’t call one timeout, and had under :20 left. Of course, they ended up kicking a field goal because the drive stalled, but they should have burnt at least two timeouts by that point. They could have discussed better play options to get the ball in the end zone instead of rushing to beat the clock at the end and having to settle for a field goal.
You are correct, however, that none are memorable because none cost Iowa a game.
So again, when Ferentz retires, who's going to come take Iowa to the promised land? Do you think Iowa City is a destination for coaching? The only reason we have the assistants we do is because of Ferentz. I'll say again, we're lucky to have a coach that has had the sustained success that KF has for as long as he has. This program could be in the ditch without him.Lol, no, I won't. I fully expect a rough transition. Happens mostly everywhere, especially after nearly 30 years with the same HC. There was a falloff with KF. I'm not expecting the next guy to take us to the CFP in year 1 or 2. I just want to be able to believe that Iowa football could get there, to that next level. As long as KF is our HC, we won't. Everybody knows it. Maybe we won't with our next HC. But maybe we will. I'd rather go into a season believing we could. That ain't the case with KF.
You think Barta would have fired him with 1-2 more losses per year?Since were being honest, the creation of the Big Ten West allowed his tenure to endure longer than it otherwise would have. Those win loss records would have been majorly impacted.
Put off becoming Whisky as long as you can. Once KF leaves, the schedule will get harder, the officiating will not be so lenient, and expectations will become higher. KF in perpetuity!Sorry if Pepsi.
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Iowa's Kirk Ferentz to coach 28th season with Hawkeyes in '26
Iowa's Kirk Ferentz, currently the longest-tenured head coach in the FBS, announced he'll return in 2026 for his 28th season with the Hawkeyes.www.espn.com
Sorry but that's just a complete loser mentality... we're just little old Iowa and are lucky to eek out another 8-win season and we all should just be thankful for what we have. BS.So again, when Ferentz retires, who's going to come take Iowa to the promised land? Do you think Iowa City is a destination for coaching? The only reason we have the assistants we do is because of Ferentz. I'll say again, we're lucky to have a coach that has had the sustained success that KF has for as long as he has. This program could be in the ditch without him.
But that is exactly the point. If you’re going to play it conservatively, play it conservatively. If you’re going to try to score, go try to score. Vacillating is what cost Iowa 7 points against Penn State trying to kick a 70 yard field goal.Yeah, I think KF worries a lot about the opponent getting the ball back. And given the number of times the defense has allowed points in the last couple of minutes of the half, maybe it's warranted. It's a conservative approach for sure.
I'm asking you specifically who you think we can get to replace Ferentz today that would be an improvement. Especially in a case where he's fired.Sorry but that's just a complete loser mentality... we're just little old Iowa and are lucky to eek out another 8-win season and we all should just be thankful for what we have. BS.
Iowa is an upper half program in the best and richest conference in the country. Sure we're not LSU but to think that we won't be able to attract some really good coaching candidates is nonsense.
I have no idea. I'm not an AD. I don't know when the position will be open and need to be filled, obviously it won't be next season. And I don't pay close enough attention to college football coaching beyond the B1G to put an actual name out there. My personal preference would be for someone young(ish) who's had success at a smaller program/programs and is looking to climb the ranks, as opposed to a Pat F./Brett B. type. I don't think the search should be limited to candidates who have some previous connection with Iowa (see Mark Stoops), and I don't think it should focus on candidates who most resemble Kirk Ferentz in terms of their personality, approach, coaching philosophy, background, etc. (see Chris Klieman). My hope would be for someone who's leaning into the realities of college football today (NIL, portal, conference expansion) and would bring new energy to the program.I'm asking you specifically who you think we can get to replace Ferentz today that would be an improvement. Especially in a case where he's fired.
Lol, no, I won't. I fully expect a rough transition. Happens mostly everywhere, especially after nearly 30 years with the same HC. There was a falloff with KF. I'm not expecting the next guy to take us to the CFP in year 1 or 2. I just want to be able to believe that Iowa football could get there, to that next level. As long as KF is our HC, we won't. Everybody knows it. Maybe we won't with our next HC. But maybe we will. I'd rather go into a season believing we could. That ain't the case with KF.
So some hypothetical unicorn that will want to come to Iowa and it'll be all rainbows. And our 2nd string QB is the savior.I have no idea. I'm not an AD. I don't know when the position will be open and need to be filled, obviously it won't be next season. And I don't pay close enough attention to college football coaching beyond the B1G to put an actual name out there. My personal preference would be for someone young(ish) who's had success at a smaller program/programs and is looking to climb the ranks, as opposed to a Pat F./Brett B. type. I don't think the search should be limited to candidates who have some previous connection with Iowa (see Mark Stoops), and I don't think it should focus on candidates who most resemble Kirk Ferentz in terms of their personality, approach, coaching philosophy, background, etc. (see Chris Klieman). My hope would be for someone who's leaning into the realities of college football today (NIL, portal, conference expansion) and would bring new energy to the program.
Sounds good. I'd like to drill down on that a little if you don't mind.Iowa's expectations should be this:
Fair?
- 8-10 wins during most years
- Being in the mix for the CFP regularly; qualifying occasionally*
- Having a realistic hope of catching fire and winning the conference championship or more
- Full stadium for home games
FWIW, it seems like we are achieving #1, #2*, and #4 of these with Kirk. #3 is probably debatable, but I personally am excited/hopeful at the start of most years.
(*-Not enough years with the 12-team playoff to evaluate "qualifying occasionally," but had the expanded playoff been in existence for the entirety of Kirk's career, we certainly would have qualified numerous times.)
I think these would be reasonable expectations/hopes for all fans, and the AD. Meet these, and there's no reason to part with your coach.Sounds good. I'd like to drill down on that a little if you don't mind.
1. Are these just your expectations? Or are you suggesting what Beth's expectations should be? Beth can have "expectations". The rest of us pretty much just have "hopes".
Pretty close for most of the schools you mentioned. I was thinking in terms of solid programs that are outside of the traditional blueblood tier. I am impacted in my thinking by the fact that I live in Arkansas, and while I am in no way a Razorback fan, I have had conversations with some of their fans about what they can expect for their program, particularly with the hire of a new coach.2. You say "Iowa's expectations". Should those be the same expectations at Wisconsin, Nebraska, Illinois or Minnesota? If not, why not?
This year would count as being "in the mix." It was being discussed at length during the middle of the season, and there was a reasonable path for how it could have happened.3, "Regularly" being in the mix for the playoffs. Does this year count as being "in the mix"?
I'm not trying to challenge your expectations. Those are up to you. Just picking your brain a little.![]()
MIchigan has Oracle's wife dumping money in.to compete with Ohio State, The Nike Ducks, Michigan, and USC Iowa is going to need a Mich higher payroll. Coaching can only do do so much…jimmys and joes.
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I sort of agree with you, but they have not for a very long time.I don't understand why people think Iowa can't win the Big Ten or make the CFP. We have been very close many times. He'll give us a QB that can make simple passes and we are likely in it this year. There is no reason to believe Iowa can't have a great season.
A youngish coach who's succeeded at a non P2 school is a unicorn?So some hypothetical unicorn that will want to come to Iowa and it'll be all rainbows. And our 2nd string QB is the savior.
Face it, you want a Cignetti, a once in a generation coach that will leave Indiana within 3 years, guaranteed.
A youngish coach that you expect to be better than Kirk Ferentz, especially if we damage the program's reputation by firing the winningest coach in conference history? Yup. That's a unicorn.A youngish coach who's succeeded at a non P2 school is a unicorn?
This is one of the dumbest things that continue to be posted. “Who you gonna get” is lame and it shows how little a person thinks of the football program and the University in general.I'm asking you specifically who you think we can get to replace Ferentz today that would be an improvement. Especially in a case where he's fired.
9 wins, good year but if they do not really compete for a championship or make the playoffs just more of the same (not disappointed just the same). My starting point is having a realistic chance of playoffs/championships. I personally have zero confidence Ferentz can win one anymore or even really compete for one. Winning 6,7.8,9,10 games does not mean a lot if Iowa does not compete for the playoffs/win BIG (unless you like to attend bowl games). Just another year of similar results and a low-level bowl game, but JMO.What if we win 9 games in the regular season next year? Will that be a disappointment, then, instead of the 6-8 win mark you're looking forward to?