Ferentz not retiring.

RagnarLothbrok

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Honest question for those who want Ferentz gone: Who would you bring in that can surpass his success at Iowa?
I feel this was Kirk’s best coaching year in several seasons despite the usual array of head-scratching Ferentz stuff (like clock management and timeout usage).

For me, Iowa going 8-4 in 2025, especially with how they performed in close losses against Indiana and Oregon, is more impressive than the 12-0 2015 regular season. I’m sure others will disagree, but that’s my opinion and I am sticking to it.

I am obviously on record stating I would like Kirk to retire sooner than later, but I also know reality is what it is and right now Kirk is proving that he still knows how to field a competitive team.

AND…the offense is improving and no longer a national punchline.

So, I am not going to be too upset that he probably isn’t retiring in the next year or two. It seems like recruiting is still going well and maybe, just maybe, he can convince more offensive skill position players to jump on board with comparable NIL funds other P4 teams are offering.

We’ll see.
 

RagnarLothbrok

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And I love all you that bash 8 wins as if it's some sort of "mediocrity". 8 wins in a 12 win season is a 67% win %. 60% is the threshold for the HOF, so yeah, 8 wins is significantly better than what it takes to get into the HOF. I keep waiting for the falloff all you haters said would happen when we went away from divisions. We're a combined 12-6 in the Big Ten which is Top 5 in the 2 years combined. 5 out of 18 aint' medicore either.

I'm glad he's staying and hope he stays until he's 80.
8-4 is very impressive given the schedule.
 

IACub

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So you'd rather accept the fact that Iowa will never win a B1G title, will never likely gain a CFP birth, will never be expected to beat highly ranked teams, will never be anything more than an 8-10 win team at best, than try to find a new coach that could actually get Iowa football to that next level.

Do we know Iowa football will get there with a new coach? No. Do we know Iowa won't get there with a new coach? No. I'd rather open the doors to the possibility of us getting there than keeping the doors closed knowing we never will.

And, as much as it hurts many of you, KF will be gone one day. It's just a fact. I don't know how you're going to deal with it, but it's going to happen.
I think you may be very shocked when there's a falloff after Ferentz retires.
 

Hawkangler

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And your opportunity as well. I have probably been a Hawkeye fan (and thru it all) nearly 70 years. Your self-appointed great fan BS means nothing except you love not winning championships.
Season ticket holder for 40 years. Attended my first game 61 years ago. I remember the down years, how many big championships under Hayden, Under Evy? Kirk is right there with them. 8 or more wins for 10 years straighg, I'm a realist and happy with that.

Look at the $$$ at OSU, Michigan, Oregon,
USC, etc. Kirk does more with less.
 

Gonzo_Bloor

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I think you may be very shocked when there's a falloff after Ferentz retires.
Lol, no, I won't. I fully expect a rough transition. Happens mostly everywhere, especially after nearly 30 years with the same HC. There was a falloff with KF. I'm not expecting the next guy to take us to the CFP in year 1 or 2. I just want to be able to believe that Iowa football could get there, to that next level. As long as KF is our HC, we won't. Everybody knows it. Maybe we won't with our next HC. But maybe we will. I'd rather go into a season believing we could. That ain't the case with KF.
 

oldxbbc

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I think you may be very shocked when there's a falloff after Ferentz retires.
Totally agree. I go back to the end of Evy up to now with KF. As I have mentioned previously KF is the perfect fit for Iowa and I hope he is able to stay for a few more years. He is a "rare breed" with his care and connection to players. When the day happens that he does retire there will be a pretty dramatic fallout in recruiting and performance. I hope that I am wrong.
 

Bierhalter

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What program do you think Iowa could be comparable to if KF left and the new coach was successful?
Center Point High School. But that doesn't exist!!! Exactly. New coach? They will have to shut down the football program and turn all facilities over to UIHC when KF retires or dies, he's just that damn good.
 

ClarindaA’s

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I figured it was too much to expect Capt Fossil to retire early.
More boring, inept Offense on the way.
Phil's best performances being wasted.
I think or hope, he’s figuring out he’s a figure head and great character guy. Father figue
 
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Kceasthawk@77

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You're hilarious.....especially considering Kirk hasn't had a 6 win (or less) regular season in nearly 15 years. If you're gonna tear someone down, at least have the decency to get your facts right.
You're hilarious.....especially considering Kirk hasn't had a 6 win (or less) regular season in nearly 15 years. If you're gonna tear someone down, at least have the decency to get your facts right.
Cmon, how many of these posts are about "facts"......
 

AnonymousNolonger

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Excited Happy Birthday GIF
 

AnonymousNolonger

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I’m sure most of these guys put similar expectations on themselves in the workplace too.

They expect to be able to outperform their co-workers who have built in advantages over them. If they don’t, they ask to be fired.
 

Gonzo_Bloor

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I’m sure most of these guys put similar expectations on themselves in the workplace too.

They expect to be able to outperform their co-workers who have built in advantages over them. If they don’t, they ask to be fired.
This is an interesting point considering KF's hiring practices, specifically his son BF who was completely unqualified to be the OC and even himself said he didn't know much about developing QBs before his dad named him the QB coach as well.

I know whenever I've interviewed for a job and told the interviewer I didn't know much about what the job entailed, I got the gig.

You know, just speaking of "built in advantages." Lol.
 

Okehawk

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So you'd rather accept the fact that Iowa will never win a B1G title, will never likely gain a CFP birth, will never be expected to beat highly ranked teams, will never be anything more than an 8-10 win team at best, than try to find a new coach that could actually get Iowa football to that next level.

Do we know Iowa football will get there with a new coach? No. Do we know Iowa won't get there with a new coach? No. I'd rather open the doors to the possibility of us getting there than keeping the doors closed knowing we never will.

And, as much as it hurts many of you, KF will be gone one day. It's just a fact. I don't know how you're going to deal with it, but it's going to happen.
I don't understand why people think Iowa can't win the Big Ten or make the CFP. We have been very close many times. He'll give us a QB that can make simple passes and we are likely in it this year. There is no reason to believe Iowa can't have a great season.
 

Gonzo_Bloor

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I don't understand why people think Iowa can't win the Big Ten or make the CFP. We have been very close many times. He'll give us a QB that can make simple passes and we are likely in it this year. There is no reason to believe Iowa can't have a great season.
Because it's been 10 years since we had even a sliver of a chance, and in 27 years KF has never once won an outright B1G championship?
 

Tom Paris

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And I love all you that bash 8 wins as if it's some sort of "mediocrity". 8 wins in a 12 win season is a 67% win %. 60% is the threshold for the HOF, so yeah, 8 wins is significantly better than what it takes to get into the HOF. I keep waiting for the falloff all you haters said would happen when we went away from divisions. We're a combined 12-6 in the Big Ten which is Top 5 in the 2 years combined. 5 out of 18 aint' medicore either.

I'm glad he's staying and hope he stays until he's 80.
Pure Iowa thinking. We aim for pretty good at Iowa, not titles.
 
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JFC. Why lord why

Well to fair, there are too many high profile openings now. There isn’t anyone out there. Maybe next year he will leave but announce early so we can go after a good candidate
 

AnonymousNolonger

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This is an interesting point considering KF's hiring practices, specifically his son BF who was completely unqualified to be the OC and even himself said he didn't know much about developing QBs before his dad named him the QB coach as well.

I know whenever I've interviewed for a job and told the interviewer I didn't know much about what the job entailed, I got the gig.

You know, just speaking of "built in advantages." Lol.
No one will get an argument from me regarding BF to Offensive Coordinator being the worst decision KF has made at Iowa.

Ironically, Iowa won 8,9,10,10,8,10 games during the BF-OC years. But, the Offense obviously struggled big time.

Someone posted something about winning the typical 6-8 games a year. Hell, even when we had the worst OC in College Football it was 8-10 games a year.

We have upgraded at OC, stayed constant pretty much everywhere else. We have a chance to improve on the 8-10 wins a year. But, also have to factor in tougher schedules going forward, which may keep us at the 8-10 wins range.

And yes, Ohio State, Oregon, Michigan, USC, and Penn State do have advantages in recruiting territory, brand recognition,NIL etc. There is no more tie breaker rule(HF era) or Big Ten West(KF era).

To win Big Ten Championships, we will have to go through these teams. Not impossible, but certainly an uphill battle.
 
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LOL - He has a signed contract that runs through the 2029 season, why would he retire? I doubt if he would step aside even if they agreed to pay him full salary due to end of contract.
 

rchawk

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To the critics, you all know that KF is going to be back in 2026 as head coach, probably in 2027, maybe 2028 and 2029 too. There's nothing you can do to change that, you know that right?

Thank God the internet was invented so you can bi*** about it.
 

Hawk_4shur

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I feel this was Kirk’s best coaching year in several seasons despite the usual array of head-scratching Ferentz stuff (like clock management and timeout usage).

For me, Iowa going 8-4 in 2025, especially with how they performed in close losses against Indiana and Oregon, is more impressive than the 12-0 2015 regular season. I’m sure others will disagree, but that’s my opinion and I am sticking to it.

I am obviously on record stating I would like Kirk to retire sooner than later, but I also know reality is what it is and right now Kirk is proving that he still knows how to field a competitive team.

AND…the offense is improving and no longer a national punchline.

So, I am not going to be too upset that he probably isn’t retiring in the next year or two. It seems like recruiting is still going well and maybe, just maybe, he can convince more offensive skill position players to jump on board with comparable NIL funds other P4 teams are offering.

We’ll see.
Good post. And I agree with you.

But, you also bring up clock management. It seems to be an albatross around his next to the fans on this board. But I don't see it that way.

In this season - when did clock management cost the Hawks a chance to win or even to score? There were fans complaining about clock management after the MSU game, in which the Hawks walked-off with a game winning FG and ended the first half with a FG attempt.

Got some examples?
 

NoPuntsNoPeace

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Lol, no, I won't. I fully expect a rough transition. Happens mostly everywhere, especially after nearly 30 years with the same HC. There was a falloff with KF. I'm not expecting the next guy to take us to the CFP in year 1 or 2. I just want to be able to believe that Iowa football could get there, to that next level. As long as KF is our HC, we won't. Everybody knows it. Maybe we won't with our next HC. But maybe we will. I'd rather go into a season believing we could. That ain't the case with KF.
Almost exactly where I am at. I have absolutely no confidence that the Hawks will win anything of note with Kirk at the helm going forward. I will not argue that 8-4 is better than some, but I would rather have a boom or bust cycle than what we have now. Give me a playoff run and a couple down years in between while the program reloads. It would be nice for the hawks to be nationally relevant some seasons again.

It’s been 10 years since we actually competed for a conference title (not played in the title game….those were not competitive). 20+ since we won a title…And I don’t see a future where this program makes the playoffs. So, 8-4….yay I guess?