Im pretty sure UNCheat will stay in the family because they have about 5 other secrets they do that they dont want getting out.
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Im pretty sure UNCheat will stay in the family because they have about 5 other secrets they do that they dont want getting out.
If Marshall wants the job it should be his. Better resume IMO and proven ability to put together a top team than Alford will ever hope to do, with fewer resources and exposure.
Marshall might be a real ***, his wife might be a wannabe frat boy, but there is no arguing that he's been on a tear.
Marshall's baggage is a walk in the park for the University of Bobby Knight and Mike Davis.
Of course that assumes Donovan is clear about not going to IU.
Marshall might be a real ***, his wife might be a wannabe frat boy, but there is no arguing that he's been on a tear.
Marshall's baggage is a walk in the park for the University of Bobby Knight and Mike Davis.
Of course that assumes Donovan is clear about not going to IU.
So true. But I think they "inside" days for UNC are over. They'll go outside the family, because of the past and because, well, who could they hire in house?
I've always thought Donovan really wanted the UK job but timing was really bad. There was just no way he could leave Florida after back to back titles. It locked him in until the pros. I believe the information that surfaced about the contract with UK. I've asked several people who would know (if it happened) and I've been told 100% Donovan and UK were drawing up the details. I do think toward the end he was using it as leverage for recruiting and knew he wasn't leaving.
I think UNC will open up if / when Donovan is ready and it's a better fit for him. K will be gone, Roy will be gone, Boeheim will be gone etc. he'll be the face of the ACC and he's an east coast guy at heart. UK in all likelihood won't be open around his return.
His options are waaaay better than a modern day Indiana.
Tubby went to 4 elite eights during our "drought" and won 5 conference titles.
There's nothing similar about IU and UK at any point past baby boomers.
This is MVP level stuff. You recovered well from our nonsense earlier. Seriously, well done.
In what universe? I can name 1,987 reasons it's not even a top 10 job..
IU is probably a top 15 job. With the right coach and support, they can be a power again. Look at Alford and UCLA. I really doubt they would get Donovan. Possibly Marshall, or Alford if he wants to come home. Since IU hasn't already hired Marshall this week, I am guessing they are waiting on Alford. Hopefully we can help with that waiting on Friday night!
Get our head out of the sand? Really? You need to get your head out of the mudhole if you think IU is a Top 5 job in the country. That's not true at all. I hate to break it to you but you guys haven't been relevant in 20 years. You kinda lose your place on the mountain when you are irrelevant for that long. Sorry.
Now that sounds like a strong possibility. He's too upscale for the armpit that is Bloomington.
He had it made there! He had the perfect gig going on especially after winning two rings!!!
I'll never understand that move.
Had to be money or ego.........possibly both.
I was going to ask about this; I don't follow the Thunder, really but by all accounts I HAVE heard, he's happy there and they are happy with him (overall)
That's the thing - IU could get Marshall, for sure, but I have some friends who are IU fans (yeah I know, but I tend to pity people) and they don't want him because of her. They said the image is tarnished badly enough. One of the guys is supposedly "in the know" and Marshall has already been taken off the list.
Of course, it's just chatter - who knows what will happen
I'd still do it.
The Marshall's strike me as people who feel they are at the top of their game which allowed him to be arrogant and his wife to show up at games and show her *** (figuratively, but it would seem literally wasn't too far away).
Indiana could easily put that into perspective for them where they would reign in it - at least until he started winning big, then both of them would revert to old form - but if you're winning, no one in Indiana at that point would care.
Of course this is all armchair psychobabble from a fan of another school. I don't even particularly like Gregg Marshall but from an objective standpoint , all IU really wants is to have a team that threatens UK and to be in the conversation again as a basketball school.
There aren't many coaches that have proven they can do that. Donovan and Marshall have.
I guess Alford beating UK twice at UCLA means something but we also dismantled the UCLA team in 2014 . I just have zero faith in Alford even if he were to take this team to the final four.
The biggest problem I see with these coaching choices is they go after coaches that can build a team, but not a program.
A team competes one year. A program competes every year.
The Marshall's strike me as people who feel they are at the top of their game which allowed him to be arrogant and his wife to show up at games and show her *** (figuratively, but it would seem literally wasn't too far away).
Indiana could easily put that into perspective for them where they would reign in it - at least until he started winning big, then both of them would revert to old form - but if you're winning, no one in Indiana at that point would care.
Of course this is all armchair psychobabble from a fan of another school. I don't even particularly like Gregg Marshall but from an objective standpoint , all IU really wants is to have a team that threatens UK and to be in the conversation again as a basketball school.
There aren't many coaches that have proven they can do that. Donovan and Marshall have.
I guess Alford beating UK twice at UCLA means something but we also dismantled the UCLA team in 2014 . I just have zero faith in Alford even if he were to take this team to the final four.
The biggest problem I see with these coaching choices is they go after coaches that can build a team, but not a program.
A team competes one year. A program competes every year.
Not getting Donovan, he hates recruiting and the aau circuit. Plus okc he has an mvp level player and is the only attraction in town.
IU has too many culture problems of fans wanting everything conformed to the 1950s., which is why they'll hire Alford.
Their last title was 30 years ago. It would almost be like saying Cincinnati is a power bc they have two championships...no one even knows or cares.
IU has too many culture problems of fans wanting everything conformed to the 1950s., which is why they'll hire Alford.
Their last title was 30 years ago. It would almost be like saying Cincinnati is a power bc they have two championships...no one even knows or cares.
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Since when is an SEC coach good enough for IU??? I thought that the SEC and everything about it sucked. And for IU to touch anything or anyone that has ties to KY? I just can't believe my eyes! Are you people the ultimate hypocrites or what?
It is now. It's THE program. But it was not too far above what Indiana is now when BCG was here. We were very, very lucky to get Cal, someone who got it. Indiana will probably screw this up (knock on wood), but if they get someone like Donovan, look out. All of a sudden Romeo Langford is in play, and IU is winning games in March sooner rather than later.
No, it is not.
What's more - the gap between the actual top 5 jobs and Indiana is quite big.
1) UK
2) DUKE
3) North Carolina
4) Kansas
5) UL
6) UCLA
7) Maybe IU, maybe Arizona
Indiana is a top five job if you are winning. Not even Kentucky loves basketball as much as Indiana does. They have a pro team. We don't. They have four major programs. We have two. Their high school blows ours away. Not saying these things because I like Indiana. Saying them because they are true. Get the right guy and they'll be a thorn in our side.
I get what your saying but the problem with that arguement is any school can be a top 5 school with the right hire. Cal could probably turn alot of schools (insert generic non name brand school aka Memphis) into a thorn in blue bloods sides. The problem is historically IU hasn't done anything in decades except think they are relevant. Butler has had 2 different coaches (at a small school) achieve more than IU. Does Indiana have potential? Sure, they had a name brand at 1 point before our time and that would make it easier to make some noise verses the Butlers etc. IU trolls coming over here portraying it as they have a turn key complete system to be a blue blood is the problem with his statement and that's just not the case because the school itself isn't a top 5 school. The state has potential recruits, the fan base craves to be relevant, and the boosters want to spend money but none of that makes IU a top 5 school.
UK, UNC, Kansas, Puke could argue top 5 easily but I'm sure we could name 5-10 other schools that could easily make a claim for the 5th spot over IU. Sorry it's just not a top 5 school. Currently they are barely a top 5 in the state if you look at their record this year.
Since they won their last championship I could have had a baby, put him through college, watch him get married and have his own kid in elementary school.
Adding Donovan to IU makes Donovan a top coach it doesnt make IU a top school, maybe a hot school now, for the kids, but not a top 5 blue blood. To me in order to be in that conversation you have to be able to sustain success which IU hasn't done.
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Historically, Indiana is a blue blood. They have five national titles and people around the world associate the word Indiana with basketball. Cal talked about rebuilding the brand when he took over here. That's what the new coach will have to do there. Want an example of how fast it can be done? Look at UCLA with Alford.
On the U of L board they are saying Virginia's coach may have told his players he has taken the job. Hmmm....
On the U of L board they are saying Virginia's coach may have told his players he has taken the job. Hmmm....
If so, the slow plodding boring style he coaches is perfect for the big 10. I hate watching big 10 ball for the most part, kind of like watching paint dry.
I think Indiana is a top 10 job, but not for the reasons you listed above...Fort Wayne (just kidding!), Notre Dame, Purdue, and Butler, plus the Pacers and Indiana HS bball dont make IU a top 5 job, it just makes Indiana more of a basketball state than Kentucky. I wont argue that point.
Indiana would be a top 2 or 3 job if all you needed to have was a passionate fan base and a great tradition...but administrative incompetency, which is probably the most important aspect of having a top job, has led them to these coaching debacles since Knight (and, he didnt exactly tear it up at the end of his reign of power) and has knocked them down a tier.