It's been in progress for years. The normies are being woken up now.
Democrat Insurrection
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HOLY CRAP! Karoline Leavitt just went NUCLEAR on the Democrat officials who called on US service members to DEFY Trump’s orders“You have SITTING MEMBERS of the United States Congress who conspired together to orchestrate a video message to members of the United States military… encouraging them to DEFY the president's lawful orders.”
“The sanctity of our military rests on the chain of command, and if that chain of command is broken, it can lead to people getting KlLLED.”
“These three members of Congress knew EXACTLY what they were doing.”
“That is a very, very dangerous message, message. And it perhaps is punishable by law.”
WOW… read this twice.You’re looking at 1 minute and 49 seconds of pure sedition — treason, conspiracy, all of it.
@DNIGabbard didn’t hold back:
“The implications of this are nothing short of historic.”
And then the bombshell:
“Barack Hussein Obama tried to overturn the United States government just weeks before leaving office… AFTER Trump had already been elected.”
Let that sink in.
And now?
Democrat members of Congress are once again flirting with the idea of overthrowing the U.S. government.
They’re not even hiding it anymore.
JFC. They said don’t follow unlawful orders. That is 100% true, correct, and legal so sayeth the military code of conduct.
but nope. Let’s make some cheesy rendition of trumps hair blowing in patriotic winds for **** people didn’t say bc his masses are incomprehensibly illiterate.
but nope. Let’s make some cheesy rendition of trumps hair blowing in patriotic winds for **** people didn’t say bc his masses are incomprehensibly illiterate.
These loony toons can't even name an illegal order that Trump issued. This is disgraceful and I hope they pay a price for it. If you support this then you are right in with them.
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Insurrection has been in progress for a long time. I fully support POTUS taking any required actions.
Give it out??? Then get ready to take some.
Haha tell that to the 2 dozen J6ers charged with seditious conspiracy who used no force against the government on Jan 6, most of whom were convicted.
Hell, Enrique Tarrio wasn’t even in DC on Jan 6 and he was charged and convicted on seditious conspiracy and sentenced to 22 years in prison.
Judge Tim Kelly said touching a bike rack on Jan 6 represented “force.”)
Haha tell that to the 2 dozen J6ers charged with seditious conspiracy who used no force against the government on Jan 6, most of whom were convicted.
Hell, Enrique Tarrio wasn’t even in DC on Jan 6 and he was charged and convicted on seditious conspiracy and sentenced to 22 years in prison.
Judge Tim Kelly said touching a bike rack on Jan 6 represented “force.”)
Did Soros organize the Democrat call to insurrection video?
One of the seditionists in the video, Maggie Goodlander, is the wife of Jake Sullivan, Biden's National Security Advisor.
Sullivan and Soros coordinated the Hillary/Obama Russiagate Conspiracy against President Trump.
Is Mark Kelly, another seditionist in the video, owned by Soros?
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Trump is threat to the CIA takeover of America, and the CIA uses Soros to finance their anti-American agenda.
I know first-hand that Chuck Schumer and Adam Schiff are CIA officers. They are Members of Congress in violation of the Constitution.
Marjorie Taylor Greene is one of their CIA colleagues in Congress.
Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger of the J6 Committee are CIA officers who, like MTG, spawned from the CIA’s “Republican faction.”
Hakeem Jeffries is a CIA-controlled “asset.”
The current CIA Director, John Ratcliffe, was DNI when the CIA stole the 2020 election.
Before becoming DNI in 2020, Ratcliffe himself was one of the CIA officers in Congress in violation of the Constitution.
Marjorie Taylor Greene successfully infiltrated the MAGA movement, and the CIA has activated her to go after Trump, just like they did with Liz Cheney in 2020.
Every patriot should read “Destroying America: The CIA’s Quest to Control the Government.”
Fyi....Tony Shaffer is a decorated veteran and is calling it what it is.
Reminder: Benedict Arnold was a combat veteran who served the country with strength courage and integrity until he didn't - and became a traitor...
The idea that you are defending a man who engaged, literally, in sedition, speaks volumes of who you actually are @GabbyGiffords - @SenMarkKelly is a traitor to his oath of office and should be investigated, tried and likely convicted of Sedition USC 18, section 2387 - you don't 'uphold the Constitution" by encouraging insurrection against the sitting PResident...you need to re-think your marriage...
Reminder: Benedict Arnold was a combat veteran who served the country with strength courage and integrity until he didn't - and became a traitor...
The idea that you are defending a man who engaged, literally, in sedition, speaks volumes of who you actually are @GabbyGiffords - @SenMarkKelly is a traitor to his oath of office and should be investigated, tried and likely convicted of Sedition USC 18, section 2387 - you don't 'uphold the Constitution" by encouraging insurrection against the sitting PResident...you need to re-think your marriage...
Somebody’s a little defensive, eh captain? Maybe this will help:
894. ARTICLE 94. Mutiny or Sedition
(a) Any person subject to this chapter who–
(1) with intent to usurp or override lawful military authority, refuses, in concert with any other person, to obey orders or otherwise do his duty or creates any violence or disturbance is guilty of mutiny; (2) with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of lawful civil authority, creates, in concert with any other person, revolt, violence, or disturbance against that authority is guilty of sedition; (3) fails to do his utmost to prevent and suppress a mutiny or sedition being committed in his presence, or fails to take all reasonable means to inform his superior commissioned officer or commanding officer of a mutiny or sedition which he knows or has reason to believe is taking place, is guilty of a failure to suppress or report a mutiny or sedition.
(b) A person who is found guilty of attempted mutiny, mutiny, sedition, or failure to suppress or report a mutiny or sedition shall be “punished by death” or such other punishment as a court- martial may direct.
the concept of illegal orders is taught in basic training - or at least it was.
There are procedures for soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines to make their concerns known. All of these elected official who decided to remind our military of this know of the training.
So, what are they attempting to accomplish with this video?
I come back to one of my previous posts...if they know of some illegal order, then they have their own responsibility to take action, not pass that burden to some E4 or sergeant. If what they're trying to do is to create uncertainty in the minds of our military, I'm not sure this video accomplishes that. I just don't know what their purpose was.
Asking, what are you attempting to accomplish and sedition punishable by death are pretty far apart right? Want to call all the crazy tweets wildly wrong or just want to say what are they trying to accomplish?
The man in this video spells it out well.
“We’ve crossed a line in this country that cannot be ignored. We have sitting U.S. elected officials, including Senator Mark Kelly, now telling troops that they can refuse illegal orders. It’s sounds reasonable until you realize no illegal order has been given.
Everyone knows that.”
SPOT ON!!
“We’ve crossed a line in this country that cannot be ignored. We have sitting U.S. elected officials, including Senator Mark Kelly, now telling troops that they can refuse illegal orders. It’s sounds reasonable until you realize no illegal order has been given.
Everyone knows that.”
SPOT ON!!
Seditionist Maggie Goodlander, who appeared in the bizarre Dem video promoting insurrection, is doubling down.
Goodlander is the wife of the chief Russiagate Coup Plotter Jake Sullivan, Biden's National Security Advisor and Hillary's closest confidante.
This is an organized coup attempt.
I agree with this statement and it responds to the libtards assertions.
RE: Seditious Democrats in Congress
OK, let me break this issue down for you because Democrats are engaged in their usual evil chicanery and obfuscation and some people are falling for it.
Those Congresscritters and their lackey apologists are all saying:
“But we’re simply telling the military to not follow unlawful orders. What’s wrong with that?”
NO.
What they are REALLY doing is telling US service members to treat LAWFUL orders as being “unlawful.”
Which means they are telling service members to not follow lawful orders.
Which means they are telling service members to disobey the lawful orders of their Commander-in-Chief.
Which means they are telling service members to break their oath to the Constitution and their oath of enlistment.
Which means they are telling service members to engage in a sort of military coup.
Which means those evil Democrat filth in Congress are engaged in sedition.
How do I know all this? Because President Trump has never once issued an unlawful order to our military.
Sedition.
Explained.
RE: Seditious Democrats in Congress
OK, let me break this issue down for you because Democrats are engaged in their usual evil chicanery and obfuscation and some people are falling for it.
Those Congresscritters and their lackey apologists are all saying:
“But we’re simply telling the military to not follow unlawful orders. What’s wrong with that?”
NO.
What they are REALLY doing is telling US service members to treat LAWFUL orders as being “unlawful.”
Which means they are telling service members to not follow lawful orders.
Which means they are telling service members to disobey the lawful orders of their Commander-in-Chief.
Which means they are telling service members to break their oath to the Constitution and their oath of enlistment.
Which means they are telling service members to engage in a sort of military coup.
Which means those evil Democrat filth in Congress are engaged in sedition.
How do I know all this? Because President Trump has never once issued an unlawful order to our military.
Sedition.
Explained.
I gave what I heard yesterday a 24-hour cooling-off period. BUT…
As a United States Army veteran, I find it inexcusable—and downright seditious—for elected officials to call on current service members to defy what they label “unlawful” orders when those orders are, in fact, lawful.
Our service members are conducting themselves honorably, protecting our nation’s sovereignty, and are faithfully following lawful orders.
These time is now to begin holding these people accountable.
He should receive a fair chance to prove he's innocent in front of military court.
Yes - @RepJasonCrow should be arrested for sedition.
He called for military and intelligence community members to mutiny, insurrect and rebel against a duly elected President by pretending orders are illegal and engage in disruption to legitimate orders... this cannot stand...
Crow should be charged under USC 18, section 2387
Yes - @RepJasonCrow should be arrested for sedition.
He called for military and intelligence community members to mutiny, insurrect and rebel against a duly elected President by pretending orders are illegal and engage in disruption to legitimate orders... this cannot stand...
Crow should be charged under USC 18, section 2387
I dunno. Maybe something along the lines of a speed limit sign or click it or ticket? Remind people of the law? Probably wouldn't be necessary if there were not arguably extrajudicial murders and/or soldiers violating civil rights on American street corners.
Wow MAGA is really spiraling today it's almost like the leader of the free world called for death of his political enemies and now they're trying to spin it like it was "ok" for him to do so or something
I get these are tough concepts, but let's keep trying as hope springs eternal. I do support their reiteration of the law. They don't need to give an example of an actual law that was broken, that would actually probably be worse because it would be an issue of fact (whether the order was or was not illegal) that they were presenting as gospel (you should completely understand that last sentence).
I mean, the British and Canadians could probably name some arguably illegal orders in the form of extrajudicial killings. Hence why they stopped sharing intel with us. At a bare minimum it is a really gray area...
But it is a lot to ask a Commander-in-Chief who is a draft dodger to understand the Uniform Code of Military Justice and/or the associated Code of Conduct as well as such tough concepts as Sedition vs. Treason vs Insurrection (ole bone spur didn't keep him out of that one) vs Insubordination.
Ya know, I was on the side of the senators until I saw these posts from a bunch of Twitter clownbots.
Oh. Okay. Cool. So this clown gets to take actual spoken words and then apply meaning to them that is not said and then make it into what he wants and then take it to illogical lengths. Neat. My wife does this.
The man in this video spells it out well.
“We’ve crossed a line in this country that cannot be ignored. We have sitting U.S. elected officials, including Senator Mark Kelly, now telling troops that they can refuse illegal orders. It’s sounds reasonable until you realize no illegal order has been given.
Everyone knows that.”
SPOT ON!!
Y'all dumb.
Kinda like JE files, if there is nothing to hide, then why try and hide them? If no illegal orders or orders that could even possibly be considered illegal have been issued or could possibly be issued, then why get bent out of shape about restating what is already standard military law and codes of conduct? If this is all just a waste of veteran's time, then why be upset about it?
Sooo, if her husband was someone else or had a different job, then not "Sedition"?
Logic fail.
Many legal experts on international law are arguing that the extrajudicial murders of people in boats in the Caribbean are unlawful because drug-trafficking should be considered a law enforcement issue, not a direct attack that requires lethal force. Besides, even if it was justified, it should be authorized by Congress and not a unilateral action taken by the president.
We already know of a fisherman who was killed with no known ties to drug smuggling and a family in Trinidad is demanding proof that their son was involved in trafficking drugs. These are real people and they deserve due process.
“I’m feeling very hurt. You know why? Donald Trump took a father, a brother, an uncle, a nephew from families. Donald Trump don’t care what he is doing,” said Afisha Clement, Joseph’s cousin, told Reuters.
Top Black US military commander steps down amid Trump's deadly boat strikes in the Caribbean Sea
One of the U.S. military’s top commanders is stepping down after less than a year in his new post, announcing
thegrio.com
We also know that survivors of these strikes have been released back to their own countries rather than brought back to the states for criminal proceedings, which is troubling if they really were enemy combatants.
And since the administration isn't providing proof of their claims, it warrants skepticism by those that care about human rights and international law.
I understand why the senators spoke up and I fully support them because no one on the Right has the balls to stand up to this lawless administration.
Where did they say lawful orders were unlawful? Did they specify certain orders at all?
If I tell you that murder is illegal, does that mean I have defamed you and said you have committed murder? The level of snowflakeness to this is insane.
well, two different things...punishable by death is a broad overstatement. I wouldn't call it crazy, built it is part of the constant hyperbole that comes from Trump statements. Who takes them seriously?
And, 2nd point, what are they trying to accomplish? They are so far away from the day to day decision making that their statements can't be taken too seriously either. I don't want them shot, but as a retired officer, I find their comments a little concerning. The folks at the bottom levels of the chain of command don't have a full understanding of the reasons for actions they are asked to take, and don't have an understanding of the legality of the action. Should we have an armed force where people asked to take a military action question the legality of the action? Could a business survive if every decision was questioned by every employee? Could Congress function if every staffer questioned the vote of the Member? And, let's not forget, in combat just hesitating for a second or 2 can cost not only your life, but the lives of those around you. Combat is not a questioning environment. And what you do before combat influences actions during combat.
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I just find it concerning that restating their oath to the constitution is at all concerning.
And it is crazy to me that we are both supposed to take Trump's words as law seemingly to the point he can't be disobeyed or its seditious, but also, you can't take what he says seriously.
While this is reality, why in the world would you ever be ok with it? When is enough, enough?
This is what they are trying to accomplish: What happens when/if Trump deploys the actual military against its own citizens? As a retired officer, would you not want to really think about that before you agreed to that illegal order?
to me this is a somewhat nonsensical back and forth. The guy at the bottom of the chain of command isn't getting orders from Trump.
Following "orders of those placed over me" is part of the oath a soldier takes on induction. What these folks are saying is "question the orders of those placed over me when I think the order is illegal". We can't even get judges to agree on laws and what is legal and illegal. So, we're going to put a burden on a young 18-20 year old to determine, on a spur of the moment what judges with plenty of time and staff to provide legal counsel can't get right.
Has nothing to do with oath to constitution. Remember, following orders, at least for a soldier comes from battalion to company to platoon to squad..these things are not done in a vacuum
I just don't think the most powerful person in the world saying people should be put to death is a nonsensical thing to discuss. But it certainly appears your standard for Dems is higher than your bar for Trump.
