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Just to throw another name out- long shot, but Brent Venables? Long time top notch DC, been around top programs. I know he’s turned down head coach jobs before, and makes a boat load as an assistant already.
I might be wrong, but get the feeling he likes the ‘relative obscurity’ of being swinney’s asst.
Klieman is a solid coach. He will need some assistants that can recruit.
I changed the settings of the poll to allow for votes as we go through the season and also to make it voting total public now.
Now that we are a few days into this, Chris Klieman, Gus Malzahn, Matt Campbell, Jeff Monken, and Jamey Chadwell have the most votes.
I think we are starting to be smarter about Scott Frost's eventual replacement (it will be another losing season) than we have been since Solich....at least us on the message board.
Now that we are a few days into this, Chris Klieman, Gus Malzahn, Matt Campbell, Jeff Monken, and Jamey Chadwell have the most votes.
I think we are starting to be smarter about Scott Frost's eventual replacement (it will be another losing season) than we have been since Solich....at least us on the message board.
can you add a couple options, keep existing staff, keep just HCSF and clean house on assistance, etc?
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Do you really think Alberts is going to tell SF you can coach next year but you have to get rid of some assistance..
Not a chance..
If you have to force a HC to fire assistants and hire new ones, you toally have the wrong coach.
Osborne was extremely loyal to a fault, but somehow ended up with really good assistants. Maybe Scott is trying to follow in his footsteps but his loyalty may cost him his job…..Osborne also named his successor based on that loyalty factor and that didn’t work out so well for Solich.
Yeah, well he probably will be available, he is expected to be coaching for his job this year.
Jesus people why not just hire the Bellevue West coach. Sounds like several here would be happy with FCS status or non-power 5.
Still staying with Kleiman for now. Honestly I don't think Malzahn would be a good fit here.
If he is buying time to find a long term answer at HC, it's possible. I'd rather do this than have a cluster HC search when the AD is not ready.
I think it is something like this but I also think it is just the fact that you tend to think the guys you are coaching with are good coaches.
I have coached football (mostly) for 20 years and out of the guys I have coached with during those years I can think of 3 that sucked.
1. He was a volunteer that was getting hours in to graduate law school from Creighton. Nice guy but clearly did not want to be there, I don't blame him.
2. Hot head Dad: Screaming all the time, calling kids names, just wanted to blitz everyone on every play.
3. Nice Dad: Sort of wormed his way on staff, super nice and super organized but just sort of annoying.
Okay, I can see that point but what record does SF have to have for that assessment..
Even at 6-6 or 5-7 heads have too roll…
Less than 5 wins Alberts will be ready to make a change…
Butts in the seats will also have to be considered for TA…
While he is a winning coach, he has a history with NCAA infractions and we already have Frost under an NCAA invesitgation. It's not likely Trev Alberts would go and hire Freeze when he can hire a Jeff Monken or Chris Klieman type.
One thing with guys in college coaching that get cheating...they get better at cheating and better at not getting caught.
You realize they played South Dakota and they're terrible right? Fordham may be better than USD this year.
You are trying to hard these days to try and protect Scott Frost for some weird reason. South Dakota is better than Fordham and nobody said the roster at kansas is good. In fact, the roster Kansas has right now is middle of the road FCS level. It's not good. He took that roster in a short amount of time and won.
If he even wins 3 games this year at Kansas he would have done a hell of a good job.
Nope. I just am very aware of who KSU played and how bad they are this year. I think Kleimann is a very good coach but I doubt we would fire Frost and go after him. JMO. I don't think his name would move the needle with the powers that be. Honestly I've got no clue about who they would go after and my guess IF Frost gets canned that it will be somebody not on any of this board poster radars. Who knows. Frankly I'm ambivalent about whether Frost stays or goes at this point. It's not my problem.
Jim literally turned down the Packers DC job to stay at Wisconsin. He will be there next head coach.
Going through the Kansas State stats from their game against Stanford and how it compares on a national scale, Kansas State was in the top 13 in the country in rushing attempts while being in the top 14 for yards per play against a quality P5 team.
Chris Klieman needs to be very, very high on the list of names to go after for the next head coach. The guy is legit.
His career is pretty damn good. Last year was a bit rough. Off to a much better start this year. They should start the year 3-0 and then play Oklahoma State.
I can't hop on the Klieman train. Took over for Snyder for the 2019 season, went 8-5 and lost 3 of the last 5. Last year, his 2nd as head coach, they went 4-6 and lost their last 5 games of the year.
Even in the 8-5 season two of the wins were against Nicolls and Bowling Green.
Don't think he's ready for that meat grinder in Lincoln. We can do better.
We aren't going to attract the big names. It's a rebuild from the very bottom of the Big Ten. This is the lowest the football program has been since Jennings.
Chris Klieman won national titles at North Dakota State, he runs fundamentally sound teams at Kansas State and defeated Oklahoma.
Snyders last year was 5-7 and improved them by 3 wins his first season at Kansas State. Last year he never had a full roster to work with due to COVID. If I remember right, he had the entire 2 deep out for the first game at DB. It was an up and down year last year, but when doing an evaluation, you have to look at everything as a whole.