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We need to be smart this time. Write down the system that we know can work at Nebraska - solid run game, defense, special teams. Then go out and put together a list of coaches who follow those three things.
None of this west coast bull shut, none of this passing bull ****. ******* Scott Frost, after saying they will run and run this year, called 41 ******* pass plays against IL. The guy is a liar and constantly lies to the media and many of us, including me, fell for his bull ****.
I'm not going to list coaches who do not fit what has been shown to work at Nebraska.
None of this west coast bull shut, none of this passing bull ****. ******* Scott Frost, after saying they will run and run this year, called 41 ******* pass plays against IL. The guy is a liar and constantly lies to the media and many of us, including me, fell for his bull ****.
I'm not going to list coaches who do not fit what has been shown to work at Nebraska.
So what, I 'd take that , get us back to 9-10 wins. Whatever we do now, has to have the lowest risk possible!! We can't afford to fail again. No gimmick little AAC/Sun Belt coaches please.
I hope we go for someone with 10+ years of college head coaching experience with proven success. A HC who lets his coordinators do their jobs and who is willing to hire the best of the best for his staff, regardless of whether or not he has a previous relationship.
The college football landscape has changed too much since the last time Nebraska was elite. Some of the names being thrown around are not remotely realistic. The new playoff structure only makes it tougher. Coaches like Malzahn, Fickel or the Coastal Carolina coach have better chances to make the playoff than a lower end P5 team. And the truth is, Nebraska is a lower end P5 team.
With the new playoff system and the way every team is on tv now and getting coverage, location is really a challenge for this teams in mid America. It's extremely tough to get the top talent to go there when they are located primarily on the coasts, Texas and Ohio. Everyone thought Frost would get top talent to Nebraska and he hasn't.
I bring this up, because Nebraska is going to have to continue to go away from tradition. In order to be elite with a classic, run first, 3 yards and a cloud of dust, pro style offense, you need elite talent. Nebraska just isn't going to get elite talent, at least, not until they start competing for championships. Its a conundrum.
Alberts needs to look at specifically why Frost didn't succeed at Nebraska when he did at UCF. He won at UCF. Quickly. He had high powered offenses. You can pretend the AAC is a high school league, but that's just sour grapes. AAC teams have been beating top tier Power 5 teams for a few years now. Something Frost was doing works. They need to find out why it didn't work in Lincoln and then find someone who runs a innovative system that WILL work in Lincoln.
With the new playoff system and the way every team is on tv now and getting coverage, location is really a challenge for this teams in mid America. It's extremely tough to get the top talent to go there when they are located primarily on the coasts, Texas and Ohio. Everyone thought Frost would get top talent to Nebraska and he hasn't.
I bring this up, because Nebraska is going to have to continue to go away from tradition. In order to be elite with a classic, run first, 3 yards and a cloud of dust, pro style offense, you need elite talent. Nebraska just isn't going to get elite talent, at least, not until they start competing for championships. Its a conundrum.
Alberts needs to look at specifically why Frost didn't succeed at Nebraska when he did at UCF. He won at UCF. Quickly. He had high powered offenses. You can pretend the AAC is a high school league, but that's just sour grapes. AAC teams have been beating top tier Power 5 teams for a few years now. Something Frost was doing works. They need to find out why it didn't work in Lincoln and then find someone who runs a innovative system that WILL work in Lincoln.
Nebraska has as easy of a road to the playoffs as anyone in P5. Win your weak division, get lucky in the Championship game and you're in.
Campbell would be the coach I would like, but I'm sure he has a very short list of schools he would be willing to jump ship to take, or an NFL coaching job. Of course, if the Big 12 becomes the Big Mac, staying at ISU will not seem as attractive, not that Ames is attractive anyway.
When Nebraska hired Frost, I thought they should have hired BB. Had he been hired, the West would be a blood bath as Nebraska, Wisconsin and Iowa games would have been good old slobberknockers. LOL
You are wrong. Coastal Carolina went undefeated in the regular season last year and didn't even get an invite to a New Years 6 bowl game.
It's not hard to know why Frost didn't pan out - he is a full-blown ******* moron.
Matt Campbell at ISU seems to be doing pretty well in Middle America without elite talent. So is Fitzgerald at Northwestern and Tom Allen at Indiana. Wisconsin rarely has a Top 25 recruiting class but consistently wins. If these programs can do it, there's no reason Nebraska can't.
- Bill O'Brien Alabama: Took Penn State from dumpster fire to respect and one year with Saban will only make him better
- Brian Hartline Ohio State: Young. Top college recruiter and future star with NFL experience.
- Kellen Moore Dallas Cowboys: Young and future star
- Joe Brady Carolina Panthers: Young, offensive genius and has college and NFL experience
Terrible list, OP. People are making the same mistaks that have been done since Solich when they come up with some of these names.
WHAT YOU HIRE IS A PERSON THAT IS A PROVEN SMASH MOUTH RUNNING COACH THAT COACHES GOOD SPECIAL TEAMS AND STOPS ON THE RUN ON D.
Anything deviating from those three things will continue the mistakes since Solich.
WHAT YOU HIRE IS A PERSON THAT IS A PROVEN SMASH MOUTH RUNNING COACH THAT COACHES GOOD SPECIAL TEAMS AND STOPS ON THE RUN ON D.
Anything deviating from those three things will continue the mistakes since Solich.
Follow these three things and then list the coaches.....runs the ball downhill, stops the run on D, and good special teams.
Only 1 on that list is doable, Bill O'Brien. Nebraska is not in a position to gamble (take risks) on unproven P4 head coaches. Funny how people automatically assume all NFL coaches will be the next Callahan. LOL
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He might. 5 million a year is a lot of cheddar. Winning the Big Ten West is easier than going against Ohio State EVERY year. We have the resources and backing to be the top team in the West. We've been awful at picking head coaches though.
Mods can we put this in the other name the next coach to be hired thread..
A rookie started the same thread..
A rookie started the same thread..
Exactly. Who can speak to Frost's culture? I wonder about it. It just seems that we're lacking accountability and building championship habits. I feel Frost just pays lip service to this stuff. He's more of a buddy than a father figure/authority to be respected type.
Culture is everything. It cannot be minimized.
Chris Kleinman who K State hired would be what we would want with a sound run game and good defense but he is 12-11 and it would be no difference than hiring Craig Bohl and we’re not hiring another player/ coach to be our next Head Coach..
I can see the arguments people have made about PJ Fleck but I'm going to add him on the list. He runs an offense that fits at Nebraska and would inject energy into the program.
Bill O'Brien is the coach everyone wants to beat the **** out of by about his third season everywhere he goes.
I feel good about the list I have put together. All of these guys fit the - run the ball downhill, stop the run and special teams. I put them in orer from 1 to 12 from what will fit the best to the least best fit.
1: Chris Klieman - HC Kansas State. Was the DC at North Dakota State. Then took over as head coach and won national titles. When you watch Kansas State film while Chris is their head coach, you see a downhill run game, they pressure via the DL and not the stand-up bull **** so many coaches do these days. Special teams are good. FCS championships and now P5 experience. Native of the cold weather so he understands the style to coach with at Nebraska.
2: Lance Leipold - HC Kansas. I went back and watched his games at Buffalo and watched what he did inside the 20-yard line and it was a simple - push the DL back and shove it down their throats. Very heavy focus on the running game. Won titles at the D3 level and won at Buffalo. He if even wins 3 games at Kansas this season you can see how damn good he is.
3: Gus Malzahn - HC UCF. Everyone knows who he is and his record at Auburn. Never deviated from a rushing offense. He would run the ball at Nebraska.
4: Hugh Freeze - HC Liberty. Has won everywhere. Only reason he isn't higher is that he may want to pass the ball a bit too much at Nebraska.
5: Jeff Hafley - HC Boston College. Ohio State fans say he was the best coach they have had under Urban Meyer and Ryan Day. They say it would be an A+ higher and would make a massive difference with our defense. Runs the ball at Boston College and you can tell focuses on special teams.
6: Matt Campbell--HC Iowa State. He runs systems that fit at Nebraska. Never defeated Iowa though.
7: PJ Fleck - HC Minnesota. Would bring a lot of energy to Nebraska and improve recruiting instantly. Runs the ball and proven to develop WR's. Main issue is that he has a losing record against Iowa and Wisconsin.
8: Jeff Monken - HC Army. Option. Sound OL play. Special teams are good. He will need to adjust his offense some though and pass the ball more.
9: Billy Napier - HC Lousiana. 3 seasons as a head coach with 3 winning seasons. 1 conference championship
10: Jamey Chadwell - HC Coastal Carolina. Shot gun triple option is his base offense. But can he bring a Big Ten level staff with him? No proven experience at the bigger college football level so you need to take that into account.
11: Ken Niumatalolo - HC Navy. While he runs a lot and runs the option, he has a tendency to be too soft of a coach at times.
12: Jason Candle - HC Toledo. A young guy to watch. No P5 level experience though so arguments can be made that he shouldn't even be on here since he isn't gong to have the ties with how young he is to hire a great staff or what to look for in great staff members simply due to the lack of experience.
1: Chris Klieman - HC Kansas State. Was the DC at North Dakota State. Then took over as head coach and won national titles. When you watch Kansas State film while Chris is their head coach, you see a downhill run game, they pressure via the DL and not the stand-up bull **** so many coaches do these days. Special teams are good. FCS championships and now P5 experience. Native of the cold weather so he understands the style to coach with at Nebraska.
2: Lance Leipold - HC Kansas. I went back and watched his games at Buffalo and watched what he did inside the 20-yard line and it was a simple - push the DL back and shove it down their throats. Very heavy focus on the running game. Won titles at the D3 level and won at Buffalo. He if even wins 3 games at Kansas this season you can see how damn good he is.
3: Gus Malzahn - HC UCF. Everyone knows who he is and his record at Auburn. Never deviated from a rushing offense. He would run the ball at Nebraska.
4: Hugh Freeze - HC Liberty. Has won everywhere. Only reason he isn't higher is that he may want to pass the ball a bit too much at Nebraska.
5: Jeff Hafley - HC Boston College. Ohio State fans say he was the best coach they have had under Urban Meyer and Ryan Day. They say it would be an A+ higher and would make a massive difference with our defense. Runs the ball at Boston College and you can tell focuses on special teams.
6: Matt Campbell--HC Iowa State. He runs systems that fit at Nebraska. Never defeated Iowa though.
7: PJ Fleck - HC Minnesota. Would bring a lot of energy to Nebraska and improve recruiting instantly. Runs the ball and proven to develop WR's. Main issue is that he has a losing record against Iowa and Wisconsin.
8: Jeff Monken - HC Army. Option. Sound OL play. Special teams are good. He will need to adjust his offense some though and pass the ball more.
9: Billy Napier - HC Lousiana. 3 seasons as a head coach with 3 winning seasons. 1 conference championship
10: Jamey Chadwell - HC Coastal Carolina. Shot gun triple option is his base offense. But can he bring a Big Ten level staff with him? No proven experience at the bigger college football level so you need to take that into account.
11: Ken Niumatalolo - HC Navy. While he runs a lot and runs the option, he has a tendency to be too soft of a coach at times.
12: Jason Candle - HC Toledo. A young guy to watch. No P5 level experience though so arguments can be made that he shouldn't even be on here since he isn't gong to have the ties with how young he is to hire a great staff or what to look for in great staff members simply due to the lack of experience.
List is invalid with Fleck on it. No way would former players and fans accept him, recipe for disaster.
The problem (more questions) for Luke Fickle are 1: Was is Marcus Freeman, 2: The Ohio State year.
I'm using the following criteria (in no order):
P5 experience?
Championships won?
Won divisions?
How many losing seasons out of how many years of head coaching experience?
What do they run on offense?
Do they play good run defense and good special teams?
The two guys at the top of my list have won national championships and run systems that are a solid fit for what has worked at Nebraska in the past.
I'm using the following criteria (in no order):
P5 experience?
Championships won?
Won divisions?
How many losing seasons out of how many years of head coaching experience?
What do they run on offense?
Do they play good run defense and good special teams?
The two guys at the top of my list have won national championships and run systems that are a solid fit for what has worked at Nebraska in the past.
What I think Chris Klieman should do if he got the Nebraska job, go back to North Dakota State and bring their current head coach into the OC job at Nebraska. Chris ran the defense at North Dakota State so he knows that side of the ball.
Who would even want to coach at Nebraska? Most of you would fire a new coach after he sneezed. You all want perfection in Nebraska football but shouldn't you look at your own lives and see how perfect you run your own businesses and lives?