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I read Billy turned down 3 SEC jobs. He would have control over his staff at Nebraska.
I'm sure Billy ideally would prefer an SEC job. Still gotta ask though and have him on the list.
Chadwell's baggage isn't that bad.
Freeze, there wouldn't be a better hire out there besides the well known big names. There is no way Freeze stays at Liberty past this season and I suspect he will never be allowed back into the SEC. So Nebraska could strike here and hire a damn good coach.
We will see how things go.
video of Jamey Chadwell's option principles in his rushing attack
He might be the guy Nebraska needs.
He might be the guy Nebraska needs.
Better resources didn't work when Nebraska hired Mike Riley, so most likely it wouldn't make Whitingham any better either.
Frankly, where is the fit to Lincoln. Reminds me a coach who went to Ames, then left Ames for Auburn.
Tom Allen was born and raised in Indiana.
Nebraska needs to find a coach, when the time comes that can fit and bring an appropriate identity to Lincoln.
Gus, really?
| Biographical details | |
|---|---|
| Playing career | |
| Coaching career (HC unless noted) | |
| Head coaching record | |
| Born | October 28, 1965 (age 55) Irving, Texas |
| 1984–1985 | Arkansas |
| 1987–1989 | Henderson State |
| Position(s) | Wide receiver |
| 1991 | Hughes HS (AR) (DC) |
| 1992–1995 | Hughes HS (AR) |
| 1996–2000 | Shiloh Christian HS (AR) |
| 2001–2005 | Springdale HS (AR) |
| 2006 | Arkansas (OC/WR) |
| 2007–2008 | Tulsa (AHC/co-OC/QB) |
| 2009–2011 | Auburn (OC/QB) |
| 2012 | Arkansas State |
| 2013–2020 | Auburn |
| 2021–present | UCF |
| Overall | 77–38 (college) |
| Bowls | 2–5 |
These coaches brought an identity to their new job, despite not being a native son:
Bob Devaney accomplished that at Nebraska.
Hayden Fry, Barry Alvarez and to a lesser extent PJ Fleck, all brought that to their respective Big Ten programs..
Bret Bielema is a native of Illinois.
Who in the coaching ranks could accomplish this and be successful in Lincoln, when the time comes?
I was never high on Frank Solich, Bo Pelini or Scott Frost for various reasons.
Bill Callahan and Mike Riley were fall backs, it seemed, when ADs couldn't get their #1 targets. Wasn't that the case.
Scott Frost and his staff need to step up and finish September strong.
Chris Klieman opened at home in 2020 and lost 35-31 to Arkansas State 35-31 last year. The next game at Oklahoma was a 38-35 win, as a +27 underdog.
So, can Scott Frost beat Fordham and Buffalo, then be like K-State, in Norman?
Not likely, but Oklahoma lost to a 4-6 team in 2020.
They have lost two straight to the Wildcats.
Nebraska needs to flush this loss and play better. As some have mentioned, don't self-destruct, and play with lack of awareness and discipline, Illinois likely loses.
5-6 plays cost Nebraska dearly.
A college football head coach needing to be an alumnus or native of the state is the most overrated talking point in college football coaching searches.
Bobby Bowden was from West Virginia. Urban Meyer was from Ohio and coached at Utah and Florida. Nick Saban is from West Virginia.
In the P5 world, there are limited coaching opportunities and if your goal is to coach in a big conference as a head coach, you can't be too picky or you will never reach your dream.
There are some coaches that are fits for certain conferences with the type of sytle they run for schemes.
From a schemes perspective, IMO, there is no better fit than Jamey Chadwell at Coastal Carolina. His base offense is the option, just not from under center like Jeff Monken.
I always thought the best way to hire a coach at Nebraska was to have someone that understood Nebraska. That has not worked in today's world. Go out and hire a caoch who runs a system that is a fit for Nebraska and you will have the success vs this stupidity a lot of us have been wrong about needing to know Nebraska.
I actually loved Billy’s offense…offense? Anyway…he was actually good looking back. His downfall was definitely Cosgrove. Good lord he could put up points and make it look pretty….until he got enamored with Keller the video gamer QB. We really had something there. His schemes made frosts look like grade school stuff
Nebraska needs to run schemes on offense that is different than other schools. I agree with that. We have 60 years of history to prove this. Thus, who runs schemes on offense that has won conference titles that nobody else in the Big Ten runs?
Three names come to my mind right away - Jamey Chadwell, Gus Malzahn, and Jeff Monken.
Jamey Chadwell would bring the most unique scheme that is different than anyone else in the Big Ten since the base offense is the option but also passes out of it. You still need to be able to pass the ball in the Big Ten and not be a 95% rushing team.
Nobody in the Big Ten uses the option as their base rushing attack.
Three names come to my mind right away - Jamey Chadwell, Gus Malzahn, and Jeff Monken.
Jamey Chadwell would bring the most unique scheme that is different than anyone else in the Big Ten since the base offense is the option but also passes out of it. You still need to be able to pass the ball in the Big Ten and not be a 95% rushing team.
Nobody in the Big Ten uses the option as their base rushing attack.
Frost had a much better resumé than Chadwell when we hired him. What makes people think Chadwell would be able to get it done here when Frost couldn't even deliver one winning season?
We have to find someone that can recruit. Why would top recruits be interested in coming to cold Nebraska to play for a Sun Belt Conference coach?
We have to find someone that can recruit. Why would top recruits be interested in coming to cold Nebraska to play for a Sun Belt Conference coach?
Scored triple the points this one has….in every game. And this is supposedly an offensive genius
Chadwell's resume:
79-52 overall record
4 conference titles, with 3 in different conferences
2 seasons went undefeated in conference play
11 years as a head coach and only 44 years old
Frost's resume as a head coach prior to Nebraska
2 seasons as a head coach
19-7 and never won a game until Milton started. Milton is what made Frost look good now that we have the evidence to look back and see what the real reality was.
Chadwell's resume as a head coach is far superior to Frost's.
1: More seasoned
2: Won conference titles in more than one conference
3: Consistently shows up as one of the top rushing offenses in the country the last 3 years
4: Younger than Frost
5: More seasons undefeated in conference play
Look, many of us, myself included, were wrong about Scott Frost. It happens in life. None of us are perfect. When you know the result, it's time to cut ties and go with something different.
Top recruits? Which ones? Frost and his frat buddy staff fck up recruits for the most part. At least offensively. I'd have to think about the defensive side, but some of those seem to pan out and some three stars there even seem to contribute.
Of the people anti has listed, I'd prefer Malzhan, but a guy not being a big name and not landing big recruits isn't the top of my list right now. Get the BEST recruits possible that actually fit your system and coach them and develop them to maximize their potential.
Chadwell won two conference titles at the FCS level, and one in the Sun Belt Conference. He's spent most of his career at the D-II and FCS levels, he's never coached in a Power 5 Conference even as an assistant. He lost to Liberty in a bowl game, and never made it past the FCS Quarterfinals.
Frost had an undefeated season, won the AAC Conference, beat Auburn in a BCS Bowl Game, had the #1 scoring offense in the country, had been an Offensive Coordinator for a major program that made the National Championship game, and had coached under and played for some of the best coaches in the game.
If a guy with Frost's pedigree can't win here or recruit here at a high level, I don't know why people think a guy who has never coached at a higher level than the Sun Belt Conference will be able to compete against the top coaches in the Big Ten, and out-recruit them.
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They have been playing football for like 15 years or so. It's a young program with no history and he rose through the ranks of a D2 coach to now coaching at the FBS level. Same path that the Notre Dame head coach took. Not every coach takes the same path to a P5 head coaching job.
Frost got lucky to be in Oregon at the end of the Chip Kelly era and he rode that into the UCF job and got lucky with Milton. At Nebraska, he had to actually coach and develop a program and he is completely incompetent at it.
Chadwell is a far superior head coach. By far.
Frost is the second to worst head coach in the entire history of Nebraska football and by the time this season is done he may very well go down as the worst winning percentage of any coach that was a head coach at Nebraska.
I didn't say anything about our current offense, but let's not revise history here thinking Cally set the world on fire.
I think we have a puncher's chance to upset Buffalo. Depending on how many turnovers AM has early.
I think the main question will be can it work in the big against bigger and faster defense. I certainly like the offense, better get a QB that can run it.
It can work. Gus used variations of it for years in the SEC West.
His QB could transfer to Nebraska after this season and still have two years left.
Somehow made Peddy State relevant again and good enough for Saban, but you're right, prob dont want him
A proven recruiter is a big priority for me, but that may narrow the list quite a lot.
The up and comers are great but risky, and I worry recruiting becomes an unknown.
The up and comers are great but risky, and I worry recruiting becomes an unknown.
His side did well yesterday despite no help in time of possession and mistakes from the O & special teams.
Almost think that’s how Frost viewed this job. Thought he could cruise and being a hometown guy have no expectations.
I remember Nebraska running that formation with TMart and having some very successful plays out of it.
Hugh Freeze should be the far and away top target to replace Scott Frost. He is the most proven head coach with P5 level experience that is available.
Top 2 targets, IMO, should be: Gus Malzahn and Hugh Freeze
Second-tier targets: Army head coach, Lousiana head coach, Coastal Carolina head coach, Iowa State head coach
Top 2 targets, IMO, should be: Gus Malzahn and Hugh Freeze
Second-tier targets: Army head coach, Lousiana head coach, Coastal Carolina head coach, Iowa State head coach
No gimmick schenes please, sick and tired of AAC, Sun Belt coaches and their gimmicks.