***CC22 and the Fever mega thread***

[AFM22]

Btw, congrats to the Atlanta Dream for winning the WNBA title this year.

Highly unfortunate the league helped make this happen.

Gods I hope so.

 

[I am no one]

Agreed. She's basically the same player as KM with similar skills and deficiencies. Both 5'8" and shoot basically the same percentages from the floor throughout their careers. Plum has provided a shade more in assists and rebounds, but not enough that she'd be an upgrade. Maybe you could get her for a cheaper contract than KM will want since she only made $1MM this past season.

But the Fever don't need to replace KM with a 20+ point scorer, they need to use her money to find a starting SG that can play defense first and also chip in 8ish points. And then a SF that can do similar. Do that, and suddenly Clark can once again be the worst defender on the floor and not hurt the team as much so that she can save some energy for the offensive side of the floor where she flourishes. The Fever can't go into next season hoping that scoring 100 points is good enough to win games. They need to reduce the number of points given up on defense, even if it means reducing the amount they score on offense.

Plum is not a friend of CC no way do they need another midget with an attitude

 

[Conn53victor]

As much as I appreciate the "CC22 and the Fever mega thread," I will be glad when the WNBA is done and this thread drifts away to be replaced by Iowa WBB topics rising to the top.

 

[Kceasthawk@77]

MVP voting results

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No surprise here. They pushed Miles all year even though Clark averaged 2 pt/GM and 2.3 assist/gm more then Miles. Basically Clark averaged 25% more assists the Miles over the course of the season, so not even close. Then in the playoffs Miles frustration was exposed when the Liberty guarded her like Clark was as a rookie and many games since. We also knew that Mitchell/Clark would probably cannibalize each others votes some.

 

[Kceasthawk@77]

11th best guard to 5th overall is a pretty good accomplishment. She should be proud.

11th best guard to 5th overall is a pretty good accomplishment. She should be proud.

I think CC knows very well by now where the allegiances lie when it comes to these votes.

 

[Kceasthawk@77]

What I can't get past is why they didn't confer with the scorers table in that moment as soon as the refs told them they didn't have a reset TO.

If they thought they did (or even if they weren't sure), they should still be allowed to dispute that with the scorers table.

Now IF they weren't allowed the time or opportunity to do that, THEN that'd be worth a discussion about the dumbf***ery of the officials.

I haven't looked into this very much, but from what Ive heard, it sounds like the coach for the Liberty is basically just a figurehead more than some one who actually understands how to manage a game, like most coaches in the player-run WNBA ("inmates running the asylum").

My guess is the coach knows they f***ed up.

You mean like the Fever not being allowed to challenge and review the "foul" on Hull when Turner hooked her arms and pulled her to the ground on top of her?

 

[Kceasthawk@77]

Honestly, a lot of them that make unprovoked derogatory comments towards WNBA players, coaches etc represent themselves as Fever or CC or Iowa fans, but they're also incredibly immature or ignorant people.

I could dive into all the specifics, but it's honestly not worth it. The fact is their stupidity isn't worth the stupidity that is directed towards Caitlin as a result.

And that's always been my biggest issue.

They all keep saying, we're not calling out ALL Fever/CC/Iowa fans.....just the racists and the bigots and the MAGA trolls etc, and we're not taking it out on CC.

And yet their actions and words go completely against that.............thousands upon thousands upon thousands of people don't just hate watch CC because they don't like her flopping and complaining to the officials and coaches. And even if they did it would still make them hypocrites. So the fact that those aren't the only reasons they hate watch makes it far worse for them.

And that's just the fans. We haven't even delved into the players (and coaches and league personnel) who take issue with Caitlin's celebrity and on-court personality.

My favorite part in all of this is that these people, the CC haters, the players and staff that hold grudges against her.....we're all aware of what their ideal endgame would be if they got their way.

But they can't publicly admit what that is because they would concede that they're the bad guys in all this. They want to be seen as the blameless victims. Can't do that if you're trying to force a player to bend a knee, or simply go away thinking that would put an end to all "online harrassment".......................

Everyone's a "victim" now.....

 

[Kceasthawk@77]

Caitlin will not win anything with how the Fever are currently operating. Stephanie White is definitely not the coach the team needs. The Fever need someone who knows how to utilize CC, while also emphasizing team defense. The Fever need better depth and a bolstered frontcourt. While Boston is a solid player, the team needs someone who can defend and rebound. Too often did they get burned by a fast guard driving to the hoop. Basically the whole team outside of CC, KM, and maybe Boston should be on the potential chopping block.

At the same time, it absolutely feels like the league is against her. Most of the players either treat her like **** on or off the court. So I'm not sure who they would add or what coach they would hire. Either way, I think she's in a ****** situation.

Remember all the excitement of CC being the number one pick in the draft and what she would bring to the league. They sure have done their best to squash all of that......