***CC22 and the Fever mega thread***
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That Fever team will be lucky to be a .500 team the way it is constructed...
Coaching and roster are disasters. CC, move on ASAP!
I don’t understand why it’s so difficult for them to draft or find a Power Forward. Without a healthy Boston they just dominated the paint. Was very impressed with Austin. Plus obviously Iriafan is really good. Billings played ok but obviously missed a few key bunnies.
Many of her misses were rebounded and they still scored, so that wasn’t sacrificing 18 possessions. She also had a couple of steals and 4 rebounds which got possessions back. All in all, she helped way more than she hurt the team.
All players get excused for poor shooting nights except Clark.
I think they have very poor talent evaluation because the players they do got out and get aren’t very good, whereas other teams bring in game changers. Billings, Smith and Dantas over the last two years for example…none of them are very good.
Last year, the worst defensive team in the WNBA, the LA Sparks, gave up 88.2 points a game on their opponents 45.3% shooting. So far, the Fever's opponents are scoring 96.3 points a game while shooting an astonishing (as in embarrassing) 55% from the field. The Fever have no interior defense save AB, and she's foul prone and not a great defender at any rate.
Try putting the blame where it belongs.
A poorly constructed team imo. With an offensive weapon like CC22, Indy should fill the roster with great defensive talent and win games played in the 70’s.
The Fever are one of the worst defensive teams I’ve seen at a professional level and they really appear to be in piss poor shape.
The Fever are one of the worst defensive teams I’ve seen at a professional level and they really appear to be in piss poor shape.
I’m wondering if the Fever simply wore themselves out too quickly last night. They played the first quarter at a frenetic pace and I’m not sure their conditioning is up to the task right now.
CC is coming off quad, ankle, and now back issues. Sophie is only a few months removed from MCL surgery and presumably couldn’t even run during much of the offseason. Billings is nursing an ankle injury she suffered in the preseason. Boston has been dealing with a lower leg injury since Unrivaled. Maybe they need to slow things down a little until they get into midseason shape.
I’m also wondering if the new CBA will be the death knell for Unrivaled. The players are earning real money now and owners might start making contracts contingent upon playing only for the team. They’re not going to want to pay 7-figure salaries to superstars just to have them sit on the bench because they got hurt in some offseason Instagram league.
CC is coming off quad, ankle, and now back issues. Sophie is only a few months removed from MCL surgery and presumably couldn’t even run during much of the offseason. Billings is nursing an ankle injury she suffered in the preseason. Boston has been dealing with a lower leg injury since Unrivaled. Maybe they need to slow things down a little until they get into midseason shape.
I’m also wondering if the new CBA will be the death knell for Unrivaled. The players are earning real money now and owners might start making contracts contingent upon playing only for the team. They’re not going to want to pay 7-figure salaries to superstars just to have them sit on the bench because they got hurt in some offseason Instagram league.
Fever make Frans D look hall of fame, never seen so many wide open 3s with no one within 15 feet of the shooter
Dantas can't defend anyone and she plays on the perimeter on offense. She's not an answer as a post player
This x 1000. CC and Mitchell need to score 70 points a game for the Fever to have a chance. No other serious scorers and no interior defense.
His point is, (and its pretty obvious) While she's struggling a bit, she's doing the best she can with a very underachieving roster. For her to get those assists the players have to make their shots which they just aren't doing. Time and time again she sets them up for an easy shot and they miss it. That compounds the pressure on her and Mitchell to take an inordinate amount of shots. If Boston doesn't get healthy they are in a world of trouble. That's all there is to it.
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Her playmaking would help if they had players who could finish at the rim, which evidently they don't. We all thought when she went pro her assists would average double figures because she'd be playing with better players then she did at Iowa, and they would finish more of her great passes. To this point that has not been the case.
Jees, you'd think White would have locked in on that pretty quick considering the situation they're in now without her, and having just signed her to a freaking 6 million dollar contract
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I mean Boston has been playing on the perimeter in offense
BUT she has a post up game, and is superior in the pick and roll game, (wherever that went). Dantas has no inside game. None, and she can't defend in the paint or on the perimeter.I mean Boston has been playing on the perimeter in offense
The WNBA schedule is so compacted and only 44 games, so any real injury has you missing a good chunk of the season. I agree with the poster who said that the W teams may start putting (you can't play in Unrivaled) in contracts. Not when their paying the kind of money they paid her, and now she's apparently struggling with the same "lower leg" injury that ended her season in that league.
If those weren’t assists then I guess I don’t understand what assists are.
Fever desperately need a backup center and a starting power forward that can defend and rebound. Unfortunately they have neither.
I saw this explained as since the ball was tipped on the pass it’s not an assist.
Not sure if that’s the true explanation but that seems ridiculous as the ball went to the exact player she intended, not a random ricochet.
This is what my friend Google AI told me about a slightly tipped pass. I think Caitlin got screwed out of both assists.
There should be an appeals process if the scorer gets shat blatantly wrong, imo. But ... I'm sure there's not cuz that would make too much sense.
Yes, the passer is usually credited with an assist. Because basketball statistics rely on the judgment of the official scorekeeper, a tipped or deflected pass still counts as an assist as long as the pass was intentional and clearly reached the intended teammate who immediately scored.
Statisticians follow a few key guidelines for these situations:
- Intent and Direction: The original intent of the pass matters most. If the ball is tipped by a defender but the direction of the pass isn't drastically altered and lands directly with the intended target, it is an assist.
- Immediate Shot: The teammate who catches the ball must either shoot immediately or take only a very short drive to the basket without resetting the offense.
- No New Possession: As long as the defender merely deflected the ball and did not gain clear possession or control of it, the offensive team's possession continues uninterrupted.
- If the tip drastically changes the trajectory or direction of the ball, causing a scramble or requiring the receiver to heavily maneuver to catch it.
- If the tipped ball is accidentally caught by a different teammate than the one originally intended, the passer does not get the assist.
- If the receiver takes too many dribbles, pump-fakes, or holds the ball to create their own shot, the pass no longer "directly" leads to the basket.
It’s absolutely ridiculous she didn’t get credit for those two and it almost cost me money.
I had a 3 leg parlay:
18+ points
4+ rebounds
8+ assists
+157
This is is a good point. Sometimes a player no matter how special just fits better with a different team.
Fever looked better last year due to just limiting possessions.
I just don’t think a KM / CC backcourt is nearly as dynamic as people think. If they’re playing full court, run and gun then it’s exciting and can be productive. But you can’t do that for 40 minutes.
and CC just has to become more efficient which I think she would with a different roster.
I think Billings is good. She has missed some bunnies, but she seems to be having to play more of a center position when she is more of an agile 4. To me I’m more disappointed with the Hines-Allen signing. I would have used that slot on an actual 5.
I think that is fever code for she’s out for a month but please still come to the game.
Or she’s out for the year, but we’ll let you know that with about two weeks left in the season.
I thought for sure CC had at least 10 assists and I was kinda shocked when I saw it was only 8. Those bizarre non-assists explains it. On what planet is the second play not an assist?
Between the non-assists that were actual assists and the missed bunnies or fumbled passes, CC should have had 13-14 assists easily. It’s seems to be like that every game more or less.
They have also given her assists when she shouldn't have gotten one...like on Hull's 3 near the end of OT.
Fever win today if CC hits 7-8 threes. Without Boston they have no inside scoring or rebounding threat. This is a team that can win only by putting up big offensive numbers by their guards.