***CC22 and the Fever mega thread***

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CC was a plus 14 on the court. The entire starting lineup besides her was in the red. And she got no help from her bigs at all tonight. Not sure what you want her to do when basically it’s her and Mitchell are the only players who can score with Boston being hurt or whatever is wrong with her. Washington bigs ate us alive.
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IowaCityLit

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CC was a plus 14 on the court. The entire starting lineup besides her was in the red. And she got no help from her bigs at all tonight. Not sure what you want her to do when basically it’s her and Mitchell are the only players who can score with Boston being hurt or whatever is wrong with her. Washington bigs ate us alive.
Stop. She missed 18 shots in a one possession game. It’s untenable.

No one can rationally justify this performance. True she hit big shots in 4th quarter. But the hole had been dug.

No she had no help. But she missed wide open 3/s and took ugly 2s and was blocked at the rim all night.

Expect better.
 

doughuddl2_rivals

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You’re shaming yourself. You can’t shoot 28 times in a game… and make 10. It’s awful on a multitude of counts. Focus on what CC can control. It wasn’t good.
OK coach what yah gonna do if she doesn't meet your efficiency rules?

Cut her minutes? Bench her? Trade her? Draft Audi Crooks to replace her?

Who on this team makes up her 30+ points tonight?

Focus on what she can control? Lol 😆
Who controls making all their shots. And knowing if it will be made. Lol 😆
 

Ludd

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You’re shaming yourself. You can’t shoot 28 times in a game… and make 10. It’s awful on a multitude of counts. Focus on what CC can control. It wasn’t good.
So I guess she should just quit. A baseball player can’t go 0 for 3 in the first eight innings then hit a grand slam to tie the game in the ninth…that’s just inefficient. I’m quite sure she was very unhappy with her early shooting performance, but she finished very strong and single handedly sent the game into OT. Great players bounce back and do what they need to do, mediocre players give up on themselves and stop shooting. It’s game 3, I think she will be okay. By the way, she was +14 for the game and Citron was +7…just saying.
 

Ludd

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Stop. She missed 18 shots in a one possession game. It’s untenable.

No one can rationally justify this performance. True she hit big shots in 4th quarter. But the hole had been dug.

No she had no help. But she missed wide open 3/s and took ugly 2s and was blocked at the rim all night.

Expect better.
And exactly who are you to “expect better”? I’m quite sure she expects better of herself, but even in off games, she’s better than most players in the league. I think you expect too much. You obviously don’t know much about basketball and you certainly don’t know women’s basketball.
 
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IowaCityLit

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OK coach what yah gonna do if she doesn't meet your efficiency rules?

Cut her minutes? Bench her? Trade her? Draft Audi Crooks to replace her?

Who on this team makes up her 30+ points tonight?
Well now you’re talking about a different thing. But an important one. I think CC would be better served on a better team with a better roster with a better coach. Let’s see if that happens down the road…
 

The Big Z

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Stop. She missed 18 shots in a one possession game. It’s untenable.

No one can rationally justify this performance. True she hit big shots in 4th quarter. But the hole had been dug.

No she had no help. But she missed wide open 3/s and took ugly 2s and was blocked at the rim all night.

Expect better.
You’re so ridiculous.
 
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I think CC would be better served on a better team with a better roster with a better coach.
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WDSMHawk

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Well now you’re talking about a different thing. But an important one. I think CC would be better served on a better team with a better roster with a better coach. Let’s see if that happens down the road…

CC would be served on a better team with a better roster and a better coach?????

That's some ground breaking analysis there Naismith.
 

IowaCityLit

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At some point this becomes like LeBron with the Cavs early in his career. Not super efficient but still a transcendent talent. Stop trying to will your way and join a competent franchise with a better roster. It’s where we are headed with CC imo.
 

doughuddl2_rivals

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Well now you’re talking about a different thing. But an important one. I think CC would be better served on a better team with a better roster with a better coach. Let’s see if that happens down the road…
DEFLECTION

Come on coach when do you bench her when she doesn't meet your imposed stat line?

Also how does she "control" if someone can't catch her pass or they can't make the layup. Stop passing seems to be it. What's the limit on her passes not caught or shot missex before she has to stop passing?
 

Ludd

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At some point you gotta quit being dimwitted fan boy and be able to articulate something rationally.

This was a great CC display in the 4q. But it was not a good CC game overall.

There’s no argument you can make otherwise. But go ahead and try.
Okay, it wasn’t a good game for her overall, but she still had 32/8/4, which only a couple of players in the league could do on their best day….so that says something about how good she is.
 

IowaCityLit

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I don’t play my man. We all just watch the games. Your biggest problem is you agree with @KurtWarner way too much. Might want to look at that. 🤷‍♂️
I don’t know who that is.

I’m just saying being a fan of a team or a person shouldn’t mean you can’t criticize or have a critical opinion.

Just be reasonable. If CC didn’t perform well, just say it. There’s context and nuance almost always. But gotta be wary of being sucked into a cult mentality. It’s so so easy.
 

IowaCityLit

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Okay, it wasn’t a good game for her overall, but she still had 32/8/4, which only a couple of players in the league could do on their best day….so that says something about how good she is.
Okay. But she took 28 shots to get to that stat line.

Her playmaking was great as always. But point totals can be misleading.
 

IowaCityLit

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DEFLECTION

Come on coach when do you bench her when she doesn't meet your imposed stat line?

Also how does she "control" if someone can't catch her pass or they can't make the layup. Stop passing seems to be it. What's the limit on her passes not caught or shot missex before she has to stop passing?
Having teammates who can finish with her passing…absolutely legit. Dont know if the Fever have those players

But CC can’t shoot 10-28. She just can’t.

No player can and be expected to have their team win.
 

Ludd

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Okay. But she took 28 shots to get to that stat line.

Her playmaking was great as always. But point totals can be misleading.
So can only judging someone by one aspect of their whole game. Without her today, they would have lost by 30 or more. She had the highest plus/minus of anyone on either team, so she helped them way more than she hurt them.
 

Ludd

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Having teammates who can finish with her passing…absolutely legit. Dont know if the Fever have those players

But CC can’t shoot 10-28. She just can’t.

No player can and be expected to have their team win.
If any one of her teammates would have played well, they would have won with her shooting 10-28…if two players would have stepped up, they would have won easily with her shooting 10-28. You’re acting like all those shots amounted to 10 points. If she would have shot 10-12, they still would have lost.
 

IowaCityLit

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So can only judging someone by one aspect of their whole game. Without her today, they would have lost by 30 or more. She had the highest plus/minus of anyone on either team, so she helped them way more than she hurt them.
That doesn’t make sense logically. 18 possessions were sacrificed. CC has struggled shooting 3s but been great as a playmaker.

Fever lost by 2


The 2nd and 3rd quarters were awful.

Would CC focusing more on playmaking rather than shooting have helped?

Analytics will bear this out. So not sure how it shakes out but it seems almost impossible to argue that a more efficient CC would increase Fever chances at winning
 

Randon

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Having teammates who can finish with her passing…absolutely legit. Dont know if the Fever have those players

But CC can’t shoot 10-28. She just can’t.

No player can and be expected to have their team win.
CC finished with 8 assists but it should have been at least 12 had layups and bunnies been converted. Her points and assists accounted for half of the Fever's 102 points. Not a bad night in spite of her poor shooting percentage.
 

IowaCityLit

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CC finished with 8 assists but it should have been at least 12 had layups and bunnies been converted. Her points and assists accounted for half of the Fever's 102 points. Not a bad night in spite of her poor shooting percentage.
Not bad at all.

But no other player is being excused for a 10-28 shooting performance. And the Fever lost. Which can be attributed to both the inability of players to finish and CC own inefficiency.

And don’t get me started about KM and the injured AB.

And don’t get me started about Whites coaching acumen.

It’s all a bit of a cluster.
 

TJ8869

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Having teammates who can finish with her passing…absolutely legit. Dont know if the Fever have those players

But CC can’t shoot 10-28. She just can’t.

No player can and be expected to have their team win.
CC took 28 shots and scored 32 points. That's 1.143 points per shot attempt. The rest of the team took 64 shots and scored 70 points. That's 1.094 points per shot attempt.

The Fever outscored the Mystics 93-79 when CC was on the court. The Mystics outscored the Fever 25-9 when CC was on the bench.

I'm not sure CC's 'inefficiency' is the reason the Fever lost.
 

chuck285

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Stop. She missed 18 shots in a one possession game. It’s untenable.

No one can rationally justify this performance. True she hit big shots in 4th quarter. But the hole had been dug.

No she had no help. But she missed wide open 3/s and took ugly 2s and was blocked at the rim all night.

Expect better.
Were you talking about Boston and the rest of the forwards who did nothing. Let's pass to Clark and not lay ups. Maybe they need a new coach?