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PSU4U

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rigi19041 said:
No. You can't say it about every position. When a school has 4 CB commits and 0 DE commits it is not the same. CB is a question mark. DE is a HOLE.

. You might want to wait for Big Game Campbell to actually coach a game before you build a statue. He has one LB and one WR.
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Do you remember any of BGJ early years. LOL. His game day coaching wasn't exactly stellar. We should all just wait and exercise a little patience where any new HC is concerned.
 
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bdgan said:
Kemajou, Granville, and Arrington are sophomores. Burnett, Reeder, and Ford are freshmen. We should be OK at DE if we can hold these kids.
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Wait the damn hasn't broken. I could swear posters think it has and it's now a wasteland.
 
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LB99 said:
That’s fair, I guess. Seems like a blanket statement though. I’m not sure the WRs weren’t talented, maybe just undercoached? Or underutilized? Those that transferred were productive elsewhere. The LBs may have suffered from stubbornness of the coaching staff to play the same players despite the younger guys flashing at times. Rojas looked great, when healthy. They brought in Campbell from the portal and he played fast and led the team in tackles last year. Tatsch looked good with limited opportunities. DTs were a mixed bag. Durant had a great Jr season, but dropped off last year. Gilliam flashed at times last year. I wish he would have stayed.
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Whatever the problem was with the WRs, that falls on Franklin so the label of him underperforming or underachieving holds for sure regarding that position group.

LB was no where near the standard we have set at PSU. You reference stubbornness by the coaching staff, well that is Franklin so he is responsible for underperformance by that group. What happened to Speca? He was supposed to be an up and comer and did nothing. How much did Tatsch develop? At PSU the standard was at least two All B10 level LBs and we were not close. Why were we forced to start a walk-on in DeLuca?

At DT, Durant yes in '24 but he regressed in '25. Admittedly we were not horrible at DT but there was an erosion of talent. You could see our DTs were not close to elite. We never had much of a a run stuffer or big time disrupter to get to the QB or get in the backfield much if at all.
 
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bdgan said:
It's very difficult to be a top 5 program but I think PSU had all the makings of a perennial top 10 program until NIL hit. We used to be able to sell recruits on education and the amazing fan base. Now it's mostly the money and I agree that there are 10 teams ahead of us that will be difficult to ever match.

I don't like your statement that OSU and Oregon are better programs. They're just programs with a lot more money.

I think Cignetti hit lightning in a bottle. I doubt he'll be able to keep it up as a national championship contender. I do think he's turned the program around. More interest = more money so they're likely going to stay in the top half of the BiG. Just not top 2 or 3.
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So how many years straight will Indiana need to make the playoff before you concede they are a legitimate NC contender? They most likely make it this year so that would be 3 straight years with a NC.
 
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Before someone comments that Cooper has only 3 stars. Jaquan Brisker was a 3 star safety coming out of Gateway High.
 
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PSUForever said:
Whatever the problem was with the WRs, that falls on Franklin so the label of him underperforming or underachieving holds for sure regarding that position group.

LB was no where near the standard we have set at PSU. You reference stubbornness by the coaching staff, well that is Franklin so he is responsible for underperformance by that group. What happened to Speca? He was supposed to be an up and comer and did nothing. How much did Tatsch develop? At PSU the standard was at least two All B10 level LBs and we were not close. Why were we forced to start a walk-on in DeLuca?

At DT, Durant yes in '24 but he regressed in '25. Admittedly we were not horrible at DT but there was an erosion of talent. You could see our DTs were not close to elite. We never had much of a a run stuffer or big time disrupter to get to the QB or get in the backfield much if at all.
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The entire defense regressed under Knowles. Regardless, “ignoring” those positions isn’t really accurate.
 
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bdgan said:
It's very difficult to be a top 5 program but I think PSU had all the makings of a perennial top 10 program until NIL hit. We used to be able to sell recruits on education and the amazing fan base. Now it's mostly the money and I agree that there are 10 teams ahead of us that will be difficult to ever match.

I don't like your statement that OSU and Oregon are better programs. They're just programs with a lot more money.

I think Cignetti hit lightning in a bottle. I doubt he'll be able to keep it up as a national championship contender. I do think he's turned the program around. More interest = more money so they're likely going to stay in the top half of the BiG. Just not top 2 or 3.
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You play to win the game. I don't like to say Ohio State is a better program. But anyone who doesn't admit it has no real credibility. I agree Cignetti probably caught some lightening.....and I believe I referenced him as a TBD. But it doesn't change the fact that year in and year out (with the current financial situation and the wild west as the rule of law) PSU is among 3 or 4 schools jockeying for positions 3.4.5 in conference.
 
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NittanyLionRoar said:
Because I said none of that, I have to assume you have some sort of addiction to lying. Or you’re just a troll.

And you most certainly aren’t simply conceding that the future is unknown when you’re jumping all over Campbell’s jock with such negative sh9t every 30 seconds. I’d like to see you try to take your own demand to heart, and let him coach his first game before you comment anymore. You up for that, bud?
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Since this is a message board, which doesn't exist without individuals posting their thoughts and opinions....why don't you take your own advice and refrain from commenting until Campbell coaches his first game?
 
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DaytonRickster said:
We all know about UCLA's pay-for-play when John Wooden was the HC.
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Funny how so many "legends" had some sort of advantage or "leverage" that we didn't know about at the time.
I think there was something similar with Bud Wilkenson and his amazing tenure at Oklahoma.
I still have an abiding respect for the educator and gentleman that Coach Wooden was. I'm sure there were others with "advantages" that didn't attain his stature and success.
 
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PSU4U said:
Do you remember any of BGJ early years. LOL. His game day coaching wasn't exactly stellar. We should all just wait and exercise a little patience where any new HC is concerned.
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Didn't "got us to the big game James" have 4 scholarship linemen when he arrived? I don't want to confuse anyone with details or the facts.
The second most draconian sanctions in NCAA football history are just an afterthought, right?
I remember year three. How about you?
Year 3= #7 in the nation
Year 4= #8 in the nation
If only CJF would have let "us" coach on game days.....

2026 no sanctions....no excuses
 
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Alphalion75 said:
Before someone comments that Cooper has only 3 stars. Jaquan Brisker was a 3 star safety coming out of Gateway High.
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Come on man. It isn't about 1 mid three star. It's about the fact that the overwhelming majority of current commits are 3 stars.
Go to the industry ratings (24/7 and Rivals) look at the average rating per commit. 24/7 has PSU at 88.38 average. That puts them at 18th. Rivals has PSU average at 88.05 with 21 schools above that average.
I understand that these are not the final numbers....players will move up and down.....for all schools. Perhaps PSU will suddenly sign 6 more 4 stars.
No one is denying that some 3 stars are "diamonds in the rough" and future stars. But at least admit that recruiting isn't currently any better than it has been in the recent past. It's just foolish to predict better results without an influx of game changing talent.
 
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Marshall2323 said:
Come on man. It isn't about 1 mid three star. It's about the fact that the overwhelming majority of current commits are 3 stars.
Go to the industry ratings (24/7 and Rivals) look at the average rating per commit. 24/7 has PSU at 88.38 average. That puts them at 18th. Rivals has PSU average at 88.05 with 21 schools above that average.
I understand that these are not the final numbers....players will move up and down.....for all schools. Perhaps PSU will suddenly sign 6 more 4 stars.
No one is denying that some 3 stars are "diamonds in the rough" and future stars. But at least admit that recruiting isn't currently any better than it has been in the recent past. It's just foolish to predict better results without an influx of game changing talent.
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matty is just jimmy frank part two in getting game changers, enjoy what you got and move on!!
 
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