We didn’t have the right head coach in place at the time. We lost to Michigan 78-0.
With more NIL Support, Schiano will fix it
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You don’t underStand the value Schiano brings to the table. Losing him would be like self imposing the death penalty. The notion is completely asinine. I don’t blame you, because you don’t know any better.
Maybe you need to read your own research. We don’t have enough resources to pay players so we struggle to recruit. That’s why we take what we can get.
furthermore our facilities are very poor. So we don’t have enough to pay and our facilities are crappy. What kind of value proposition is that! No wonder recruits choose to go elsewhere.
Meanwhile USC pays top dollar for recruits AND it just opened up a brand new state of the art facility. No wonder jerseys best decide to go elsewhere. The top recruit from Jersey went to USC, and is doing great. We used to be able to get our share. No more.
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Why do you keep repeating this uniformed and frankly embarrassing poor evaluation of HC Ash?
You couldn't be more wrong.
People much smarter than you have repeatedly disagreed.
Ash can grow into a good head coach - Forums
Lou Holtz has always been fond of saying the difference between a 1st time head coach and a successful head coach is all the mistakes the successful head coach has made. The last 3+ years, we’ve witnessed a plethora of mistakes from Chris Ash. Thankfully, he’s learned from his mistakes, and...
This and if you do this for awhile, you will expand your fan base and who knows? At some point, maybe you find a path to the top 1/3.
But you can’t do it while being bad every year.
The fanbase not caring about winning is not the reason for most of the losing in the past 3 seasons.
The fanbase didn't call the timeout that lost the Illinois game in 2024.
The fanbase didn't fail to prepare the team and lose to UCLA, then one of the worst teams in the B1G, that same year.
The fanbase didn't blow a two plus TD lead against Kansas State in the bowl game or give up over 300 yards rushing.
The fanbase didn't cause the second half collapses against Iowa and Minnesota in 2025, collapses that had nothing to do with funding and everything to do with the failure of the coaching staff to make adjustments.
The fanbase didn't fail to prepare the team and get boat raced at home by UMass, ( a team that was WINLESS the previous season) in a paycheck game.
The fanbase didn't lose to BC, a team that was 2-10 the previous year and beat RU with a D2 QB. They also didn't turn a formerly serviceable transfer QB and a program savior into turnover machines.
There's no mystery here. A better coach wins these games.
Schiano got more NIL. And this is what he’s produced with it. He doesn’t know what he’s doing. The more time he has to coach the worse the team gets. Should stick to being a fundraiser. Coaching football isn’t for him
I still think about the Nebraska game. Did NIL not challenge the goal line call? Did NIL have a weak game plan, turning to Ben Black in the 4th quarter who was able to generate opportunities the other players couldn’t?
Had this very conversation with UCLAs head basketball coach. I said recruiting must be hard. To my surprise he said it’s much easier. The players don’t care about facilities or academics. All they care about is how much are we going to pay them. We assess their skills, assign them to a comp band, and give them a number. They accept it or don’t.
and that’s the problem. Schiano is getting boat raced by programs with less money, and those we have similar comp with, are destroying us. He doesn’t know what he’s doing. He could have had NW’s QB but didn’t even try. He’s lost.
What about when WVU beat Schiano 80-7?
When you can’t convince grown men to come work for you without a 4x pay raise. How do you expect to win recruiting battles.
2009: Cinci 47-15 and it wasn’t that close
2005: Lville 56-5
2008: UNC 44-12
2007: WVU 31-3
Trying their best? Should they be awarded a participation medal? This isnt elementary school, rec soccer. Their performance sucks. All 60+ "coaches" and the 60+ or so ancillary staff. Massive failure. But you already know that.
One of my talking points back then was he couldn’t compete with elite teams other than in 2006 when he had an elite team.
it’s complete revisionist history when people try to argue that NIL and the strength of the Big Ten is the reason why we can’t compete with elite teams. Sure, it’s an input but not the whole story by any means. There is a pattern of other lower end programs, not only competing sometimes, but actually pulling an upset and we always get blown out. Even 2023 vs OSU which was a valiant effort ended non competitively.
You are being serious? With more than enough resources, Greg wasnt relatively competitive against UMass and lost to BC.
He's very obviously a PSU fan who wants Schiano to stay because a new coach could potentially eat their lunch. Either that, or it's another Al alias.
There is some semblance of a sane argument prior to this season that Schiano
1. Was doing more with less at times if the NIL projections were as low as estimated as one can argue the bigger issue was winning games as opposed to being in games with the lower half of the big ten. Win 3-4 of UCLA, Nebraska, Iowa, PSU, Illinois, Minnesota games and the optics maybe change a bit with another bowl and getting some monkeys off our back.
and
2. Deserved some empathy not only for raising his own NIL and recognizing the potential opportunity cost for all the hours he put into that that could not be spent on football.
BUT…. several of us predicted that more money would not lead to more wins because of all of the other issues wrong with the program and here we are.
So, as per usual, you made **** up to fit your narrative. Unbelievable.No, i didn’t, but here they are.
Of the total commitment, $290 million will be used in support of Spartan Athletics as part of FOR SPARTA: The Capital Initiative for MSU Athletics, which was announced on Tuesday. This gift will accelerate MSU’s ability to compete nationally and build a sustainable foundation for long-term success, while putting college athletics on notice that Michigan State has the resources to be an industry leader.
In addition to gifts to the university, the Williamses are investing $100 million in an entity to be formed by the affiliated organization Spartan Ventures. The investment reflects a determination to see Spartan Athletics lead in an era of unprecedented change across college athletics. Spartan Ventures will serve as the revenue, innovation and development arm of MSU Athletics — creating new revenue streams, expanding strategic partnerships, enhancing student-athlete opportunities and driving long-term financial strength. This investment enables MSU to modernize and scale its approach to athletics program funding, ensuring that Spartan student-athletes have the resources, opportunities and competitive advantages they need in a rapidly evolving environment.
Greg and Dawn Williams make historic $401 million commitment to Michigan State University and Spartan Athletics
Michigan State University today announced a historic $401 million commitment from Greg and Dawn Williams. Made through the university’s “Uncommon Will, Far Better World” campaign and in support of MSU Athletics’ FOR SPARTA initiative, this is the largest single commitment in the history of MSU...msutoday.msu.edu
The only poster on this board currently out of their mind is you. YOU. The list begins and ends right there. You are 100% Looney Tunes.
Get your mouth off of Greg’s nuts for five seconds, okay? He is THE worst HC in D1 as of today.
Greg doesn’t make the playoffs within IU’s roster last year. PERIOD. What don’t you understand?
He brings ZERO “value” to the table these days. NONE. Unfortunately.
He actually brings negative value. He's embarrassing the university.
That's not a good barometer for football iq
Serious question - why should anyone trust your evaluation of Schiano's value?
Maybe it's you who doesn't know any better?
Time to think about an EXTENSION for Coach Ash - Forums
I’m satisfied with the way things are progessing, and a 2 year extension would be appropriate, imo.
Wimsatt will be our Starting Quarterback next year - Forums
He wasn’t great, but he was good enough. Even at 8-4, we’re going to the same Pinstripe Bowl that we’re going to at 6-6. I’m not sure why he is getting a disproportionate share of the Maryland Game blame. We lost the Maryland game because the defense was fatigued, which allowed Maryland to...
Ajani is our QB of the future - Forums
I see Rutgers playing in the Rose Bowl within 5 Years - Forums
2023, plateau year, 4-8 to 6-6 2024, plateau year, 4-8 to 6-6 2025, 6-6, Pinstripe Bowl (Football Fieldhouse Opens) 2026, 7-5, Outback Bowl 2027, 10-2, Rose Bowl
Maybe I understand or maybe I don't.....but that's neither here nor there as I'm not on this board nor in this thread to prove anything to you. What I do know is that like most others here, I'm unhappy with the state of Rutgers Football. It's not a "right now" dissatisfaction, rather it has been building, game by game, year by year with Schiano 2.0. I also notice not only a growing dissatisfaction, but also a higher degree of fan apathy. Fan apathy is a program killer. It will manifest in continually shrinking ratings & attendance as well as a reduction in donations.
If you're reading the room correctly you would know that the fanbase has no appetite for another rebuild under Schiano after years of mediocre to failed results. In terms of fan financial support - this is a chicken vs. egg question. Regardless of your obsessive nagging and chastising on this board, the money is not going to flow in without "hope". Like it or not, Schiano has pretty much sucked most of the "hope" out of the fanbase. You can continue making thread after thread - but it won't change the fact that you are on an island........fan dissatisfaction is now overwhelming and apathy will only continue to get worse under Schiano. A mediocre season won't help.....only a fresh start will. There are no guarantees with a new coach....but in sports you have to cut the cord on failure at some point before you lose the room.
You can now continue on with your trolling / superiority complex / spectrum induced opinions........whatever the case may be - they've become both aggressive and odd. If your goal is to have everyone here hating on you.......congracts as you're almost there.
The OP called for “lifetime contract” over the summer!!!Serious question - why should anyone trust your evaluation of Schiano's value?
Maybe it's you who doesn't know any better?
Time to think about an EXTENSION for Coach Ash - Forums
I’m satisfied with the way things are progessing, and a 2 year extension would be appropriate, imo.www.on3.com
(Note - we brought in AK and Wimsatt transfered)Wimsatt will be our Starting Quarterback next year - Forums
He wasn’t great, but he was good enough. Even at 8-4, we’re going to the same Pinstripe Bowl that we’re going to at 6-6. I’m not sure why he is getting a disproportionate share of the Maryland Game blame. We lost the Maryland game because the defense was fatigued, which allowed Maryland to...
Ajani is our QB of the future - Forums
I see Rutgers playing in the Rose Bowl within 5 Years - Forums
2023, plateau year, 4-8 to 6-6 2024, plateau year, 4-8 to 6-6 2025, 6-6, Pinstripe Bowl (Football Fieldhouse Opens) 2026, 7-5, Outback Bowl 2027, 10-2, Rose Bowl
Remarkable how much the same few posters repeat the same few diatribes each day. Those hoping for GS' demise and on the other side his continuation have made their points repeatedly...and again and again.
Appears now we are in the DAILY look for anything new to justify our points era---omg the press conference what was said by GS-- omg we dont have this or that facility.
The "on repeat" posters are more than tiresome.
Appears now we are in the DAILY look for anything new to justify our points era---omg the press conference what was said by GS-- omg we dont have this or that facility.
The "on repeat" posters are more than tiresome.
If the fanbase cared about winning, they would have provided the head coach with the tools to win, such as enough NIL support and a Fieldhouse. Even the Lawrence School in Lawrence NJ has a brand new Fieldhouse, thanks to a benefactor. So there is a NJ high school with better facilities than what we have . Do you realize how disgraceful that is?
You’re acting like we should have Alabama results on a Rutgers budget, which is 8 jokes in one. A better coach won’t come within 500 miles of this place because there isn’t enough support to be successful. Thanks for the laugh, though.
Oh, the two guys that you said were gonna light up the Northwestern pass defense last week? “bombs away” IIRC?
Duff -3 receptions
Cared - ZERO
…. But you’ve been avoiding that topic like the plague.
And you tell other people to get new one pads when you deepthroat Greg in every post.
The money should have flowed in, in 2020, but it never did. So your implication that money will flow in, with a new coach, is complete nonsense. The fanbase doesn’t love Rutgers football enough to toss money its way.
You don’t cut the cord with the winningest coach in your history. The only coach to show he can get the job done, in 40+ years.
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