This has been discussed numerous times. And the answer is no.
What also is really horrible is Schiano's inability to beat a Big Ten Team that finishes the season with a winning record. In 6.5 years, he's accomplished that Once against the 2024 Minnesota Gophers team. Let it sink in. 6.5 years of returning to Rutgers and he has not won a game against a Big Ten team of any stature and/or winning record. Not Wisconsin, Nebraska, Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, Iowa. When he beats a Big Ten team that is having a miserable year (Maryland, last year's Purdue team) he celebrates as if Rutgers won the Super Bowl and it's an actual accomplishment.
What you need to understand is that many major donors are meaningfully involved with the program because of Greg. Amy Towers is one of the few that got involved after Greg left. It was reported that the available NIL will be significantly improved from last year. It took time for the fund raising apparatus to ramp up.
He wanted Anthony Davis, Tom Savage, and Savon and got them. Other than that, it’s not excuses, it’s explanations. It is very difficult to recruit good kids to Rutgers. So we’ve had to take Tier 2 kids and develop them. Schiano is the only one who has been able to do so consistently. If there was proper NIL, the roster would have been filled with proper talent.
There’s more money for the next portal. Don’t know what you’re talking about. There’s no better coach, who is willing to come to Rutgers. Don’t know if you got the memo, but money is what drives college football success these days.
Greg has recruited plenty of high-level recruits. Too many washed out because they weren't the right fits. That's a common theme with Greg in 1.0 & 2.0. It was easy to dismiss during 1.0 when lots of other recruits were becoming productive players.
This is where you’re clueless. Chris Ash came here and faceplanted right out of the gate, and he was a reasonably intelligent coach. We couldn’t even beat Buffalo and Kansas, forget about Wisconsin and Iowa.
Better coaching? This is the most clueless post you’ve ever written. The talent on defense is flat out garbage, with a few exceptions, who are developing. They could prepare for the next year and they’d still be garbage. No one could start for better big ten schools.
LOL, you're only defense is citing Chris Ash, meanwhile UMass was a worse loss than Buffalo and Kansas. Greg was crowing all summer about being much improved and face plant right out of the gate.
If he doesn't call the timeout against Illinois, they win. If they were prepared, they wouldn't have shat the bed against a bad UCLA team. If there were any adjustments in the second half of the Minnesota and Iowa games, those are wins. AĹL of these losses are on coaching. You are the last person that should be throwing the word clueless around.
Purdue is 3-4, with two nice victories. Hardly world beaters with PSU, Wisconsin and others on tap. Let’s see where they are at the end of the season. They developed a qb over 4 years.
See Ray Rice, Mike Teel, Kyle Monangai, Anthony Davis, Eric LeGrand, KJ Duff.. need more?
A good quarterback would have beaten UMass and BC and USC.
It’s not rocket science. Ranked teams have invested a lot more in their football programs than we have in ours.
Incredible work hereWhoa. Stop with the Chris Ash slander.
He was a very successful HC who just needed more time.
Right? See below.......
I've asked it before: if you are so historically poor at evaluating football what makes you think your evaluation of Schiano (the best there ever was, best there is and best there ever will be) is accurate?
Before Ash first season:
I think Chris Ash is going to be a combo of Bill Parcells/Vince Lombardi
Eight months ago, I stated I NEVER would have hired Chris Ash. Thankfully, I'm a lot smarter now, than I was six months ago, and my cupeth is filleth with the Chris Ash Kool Aid. But to be fair, there were legitimate reasons to be concerned, namely: "Why change the template that had worked so...www.on3.com
Towards the end of Year 2:
Time to think about an EXTENSION for Coach Ash - Forums
I’m satisfied with the way things are progessing, and a 2 year extension would be appropriate, imo.
Going into Year 4 (he was fired 4 weeks into the season and didn't make it out of September):
Ash can grow into a good head coach - Forums
Lou Holtz has always been fond of saying the difference between a 1st time head coach and a successful head coach is all the mistakes the successful head coach has made. The last 3+ years, we’ve witnessed a plethora of mistakes from Chris Ash. Thankfully, he’s learned from his mistakes, and...
How many wins gets Chris Ash a raise?? - Forums
What if it’s like 2006 all over again? What if we sweep September? What if we win 10 games? Is that good enough to get Chris Ash a raise?
IdiotAl knee-capped for the millionth time. Truly the Black Knight of Monty Python lore.Whoa. Stop with the Chris Ash slander.
He was a very successful HC who just needed more time.
Right? See below.......
I've asked it before: if you are so historically poor at evaluating football what makes you think your evaluation of Schiano (the best there ever was, best there is and best there ever will be) is accurate?
Before Ash first season:
I think Chris Ash is going to be a combo of Bill Parcells/Vince Lombardi
Eight months ago, I stated I NEVER would have hired Chris Ash. Thankfully, I'm a lot smarter now, than I was six months ago, and my cupeth is filleth with the Chris Ash Kool Aid. But to be fair, there were legitimate reasons to be concerned, namely: "Why change the template that had worked so...
Towards the end of Year 2:
Time to think about an EXTENSION for Coach Ash - Forums
I’m satisfied with the way things are progessing, and a 2 year extension would be appropriate, imo.
Going into Year 4 (he was fired 4 weeks into the season and didn't make it out of September):
Ash can grow into a good head coach - Forums
Lou Holtz has always been fond of saying the difference between a 1st time head coach and a successful head coach is all the mistakes the successful head coach has made. The last 3+ years, we’ve witnessed a plethora of mistakes from Chris Ash. Thankfully, he’s learned from his mistakes, and...
How many wins gets Chris Ash a raise?? - Forums
What if it’s like 2006 all over again? What if we sweep September? What if we win 10 games? Is that good enough to get Chris Ash a raise?
There is a difference between being in a game and looking like you have a plan but still losing versus mind boggling blunders and big gains from blown coverage. There’s. Looking like you knew what you’re doing versus having no answer at all. Everyone understands that the RU isn’t going to automatically get the same athletes as Ohio st with a new coach. But if the players he has make plays and are competitive people will be patient for 2-3 seasons.
You're the voice of reason, Al, GS has the team/program coming around and with his next extension and additional NIL take Rutgers into the CFP!How many times has Rutgers landed its first choice recruits in the last six years? It almost never happens. And then you see the same recruit succeed elsewhere. The problem isn’t the evaluation, it’s that we don’t offer enough to land the first priorities on our board. What exactly is our value proposition ?
- Crappy Campus
- Crappy Facilities
- Crappy NIL
- Crappy Stadium Environment
Our only competitive advantage is our location. Academically, every school in the Big Ten is a good school, with a possible exception.
Yet most of you bozos expect the best recruits to sign up for this. It’s complete lunacy. The best recruits are going elsewhere because they’re getting bigger bags, better facilities, better stadium environment, and overall a better experience.
The best recruits we can get, are coming because Schiano sold them.
we have to be honest as to where we stand, and we’re low man on the totem pole, because we don’t offer enough. We have to overpay to get good recruits in here.
This is why we didn’t have enough NIL, to land the caliber of recruit, in the portal, to turn this situation around. Look at Wisconsin, who spent $9M more than we did. Look at their caliber of transfer, then look at ours. Even in spite of our financial challenges, we did land some talent. Clay Thevinin and Rondo Porter can ball. The issue is with everyone else. You take the big risks that we did, and you’re not going to land many hits. To get more hits, we have to pay up for better risks. We need more Tier 1 transfers in our transfer class, like what Northwestern and Wisconsin have. Can only do that with more NIL.
Schiano ended his fundraising activities once Kelli came on board, and that was likely a mistake. It took time for Kelli to get the proper resources in place, so that our fundraising could operate with maximum efficiency. The results last year weren’t great, which put us at a big disadvantage in the portal. Despite our constraints, we still landed Rondo Porter and Clay Thevinin. Everyone else isn’t having the impact we hoped for. Next year, with more money, we’ll get better results. The best coach for the job, is the current one.
What you need to understand is that many major donors are meaningfully involved with the program because of Greg. Amy Towers is one of the few that got involved after Greg left. It was reported that the available NIL will be significantly improved from last year. It took time for the fund raising apparatus to ramp up.
This is similar to basketball where the NIL amount was embarrassing in previous years, but was finally competitive this year. Lo and behold, look at our basketball transfer portal results. We finally have a competitive center, decent depth, and should be able to put a competitive product out on the court. I expect that we will see similar results next year, now that we have decent NIL, for football.
we gave pike another Shot after 2 dud years. Schiano deserves same. He is the biggest reason we’re in the Big Ten.
He’s already fixed the program twice. What’s another time? It’s completely asinine to throw away 18 years of institutional knowledge and know how, for someone who will come in and learn what strategy to implement. Most of the coaches after burns had no clue how to run Rutgers Football to optimize results. Kyle Flood did his best, but struggled towards the end of his tenure. Dick Anderson, Doug Graber, Terry Shea, and Chris Ash were bums who could not achieve the desired results. These coaches were not dummies, they just could not figure out how to run Rutgers Football successfully.
Lastly, look at the calendar. Signing day is 12/2. Right now, we have a competitive class, which moves he program forward. Makes zero sense to start from ground zero, especially when you have budding stars like Isaiah Alvarez and Jamar Taylor.
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