It’s time for Cal

TNCatfanforever

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It doesn't require teaming up to handle your softness. Keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better. Who was the one putting Tubby in the same class as Cal earlier in this thread?
They both do have the same number of NCAA titles. I couldn’t stand Tubby and still cant. After he got his huge contract he tanked it. Let’s see what Cal does in the next 5 years. If he doesn’t win another title he is an epic fail. I sure hope I am wrong. No one wants to see him do that more than me but things have to change. Maybe the grad transfer rule will help we can get 22 year old one and dones.
 

kl40504_rivals

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They both do have the same number of NCAA titles. I couldn’t stand Tubby and still cant. After he got his huge contract he tanked it. Let’s see what Cal does in the next 5 years. If he doesn’t win another title he is an epic fail. I sure hope I am wrong. No one wants to see him do that more than me but things have to change. Maybe the grad transfer rule will help we can get 22 year old one and dones.
You are an epic fail regardless of what happens from here.
 

Blue wood

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Wow you are one of Cal's cronies. How does it feel to be a groupie? GTFO new guy!

I realize Cal can't shoot the free throws but this has been a consistent problem throughout his career. How about he recruit better shooters and less athletes?
New guy lol. How bout you gtfo ******* and go cry with that dipshit
 

kl40504_rivals

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Wow you are one of Cal's cronies. How does it feel to be a groupie? GTFO new guy!

I realize Cal can't shoot the free throws but this has been a consistent problem throughout his career. How about he recruit better shooters and less athletes?
Hero only made 94% of his free throws this year. Wow. Cal can't recruit players that can shoot free throws.
 

know1

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Dec 8, 2002
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At least in the past when we would come up short we'd get to know the players a little bit because they'd stay 4 years. If we're not going to win any more titles, I'd like to have them stay long enough to learn their jersey numbers. As it is now, we have a bunch of strangers out there getting bounced in the Elite 8 and then leaving.
 

Cardsstink

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You don't get it. We want 4 year players, Johnny David, Bobby Perry, Sheray Thomas. We just like to get to know them, have em over to the house, show them how to shoot Ft's, that type thing

He's admitted he likes to get a rise out of people here.
He's admitted he's "old and grumpy and expects a title every year".
He's claimed to be a preacher. Do preachers conduct themselves this way?

Biggest ongoing troll job on this forum.
 
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chattanoogawildcat

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He's admitted he likes to get a rise out of people here.
He's admitted he's "old and grumpy and expects a title every year".
He's claimed to be a preacher. Do preachers conduct themselves this way?

Biggest ongoing troll job on this forum.
Add that he said he coached high school basketball. [roll]
 
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KFuqua

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I don't take issue at all with the players. They're just doing what they've been told to do. Remember, coming to Ky is about draft night not Championships.
Unfortunately, that's now the truth and it's getting old.
 

seccats04

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Dec 6, 2004
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Hero only made 94% of his free throws this year. Wow. Cal can't recruit players that can shoot free throws.
Yes and Herro only missed one. Nobody else could hit one. That is a problem every year. It’s not just luck.
 

Wall2Boogie

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LOL this thread has gone off track and will get locked but I’ve enjoyed reading both parties bickering itt. Hats off to everyone involved
 

seccats04

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Not getting top talent? Number 1 or 2 recruiting class every year Cal has been here. He needs to only recruit 2 and 3 stars and then we could keep them 4 years and make the NIT once in a while. We were 1 bucket from making the final four this year.
Not every #2 class is the same. See 2013. But when you only fish in the OAD pond you will have holes in your roster a lot of the time.
 

seccats04

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Go convince those lower-tier guys to come here. That's the problem. Most of those kids would rather go to a mid-tier power-5 school and play right away than come here and sit for a year or two and then hope to beat out the freshmen as a junior or senior. As much as we can all yearn for the days of Chapman or Mashburn,or Walker, but kids today want to play right away and will go to the school that tells them that will happen.

And Cal likely thought he had multi-year guys in people like SGA or Herro. Is it his fault that they improved so much as a player to be first rounders after their freshmen years? Or is it his fault that he recognized first round talent with 2-3 year college player ratings attached to them? Trying to figure out what he can be blamed for and what he got lucky with.
It’s Cal’s philosophy. He even told Ulis not to come here if he thought he’d be here more than 2 years. He recruits these guys based on their NBA potential and their measurables.
 

sefus12

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Dec 22, 2007
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It’s Cal’s philosophy. He even told Ulis not to come here if he thought he’d be here more than 2 years. He recruits these guys based on their NBA potential and their measurables.

I don't want to be mean, but you are WAY off the mark here.

First off, Cal telling Ulis not to come here if he's expecting to be here 3+ years was his way of saying "I want you to come here with the goal of working your way to the league as fast as you can". That type of work ethic, in turn, helps UK win basketball games. He didn't say it meaning "if you are a 3-year player then I don't want you".

Second, Cal doesn't recruit based simply on measurables/NBA potential. If that were the case he would have never backed off the guys he did over the past five or so years. Yes, he wants the best talent, but he only wants the talent he thinks will fit with the team and his style of coaching/play. Many a great NBA prospect was either dropped off the recruiting radar by Cal or simply never recruited in the first place for one reason or another.

Keep swinging though. You'll make contact one of these days.
 
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kl40504_rivals

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Not every #2 class is the same. See 2013. But when you only fish in the OAD pond you will have holes in your roster a lot of the time.
Why don't you talk to Cal and tell him his recruiting sucks? I wait for you to get back to us and let us know what he says.
 
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JC CATS

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I don't want to be mean, but you are WAY off the mark here.

First off, Cal telling Ulis not to come here if he's expecting to be here 3+ years was his way of saying "I want you to come here with the goal of working your way to the league as fast as you can". That type of work ethic, in turn, helps UK win basketball games. He didn't say it meaning "if you are a 3-year player then I don't want you".

Second, Cal doesn't recruit based simply on measurables/NBA potential. If that were the case he would have never backed off the guys he did over the past five or so years. Yes, he wants the best talent, but he only wants the talent he thinks will fit with the team and his style of coaching/play. Many a great NBA prospect was either dropped off the recruiting radar by Cal or simply never recruited in the first place for one reason or another.

Keep swinging though. You'll make contact one of these days.
You are wasting your time bro...
 
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TNCatfanforever

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I love discussing UK basketball. I am sorry that we cannot disagree like grown men and women. Immature kids start calling you names and trolls and using profanity. I am assuming the mods agree with them or they would ban them. Amazing to me that you cannot express your opinion without being labeled. Maybe just a product of this generation of kids
 
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chattanoogawildcat

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I love discussing UK basketball. I am sorry that we cannot disagree like grown men and women. Immature kids start calling you names and trolls and using profanity. I am assuming the mods agree with them or they would ban them. Amazing to me that you cannot express your opinion without being labeled. Maybe just a product of this generation of kids
There is a big difference in expressing your opinion and constantly bashing Cal and this program. Comical to even compare the two.
 

Whatsup

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Lol Wooden would have had at least 7-8 Championships with all those draft picks that Cal has had. Yeah Cals record looks good listed like that. Why don't you put a list of the players he's had with it and then see just how pedestrian his accomplishments are compared to the talent he's had!
Yeah, but Cal isn't paying to get the players. Wooden had to pay them to come to UCLA, if Cal did the same thing we'd have more championships. There will never be another college team that dominates like UCLA. It's a different game now with more teams that have great players You seem angry and that can sometimes fog your brain. Is your brain fogged? Me thinks you ***** too much to be a fan so got to believe someone has taken over your sole, maybe a troll demon. We have a lot of them on here lately. If you don't like your team choose another one. Please get a grip on yourself before you go off and hurt yourself. .
 

UKNothinButNet

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Yes we do! We also have fans that want participation trophy's. If wanting FF's makes me entitled then so be it.

I agree. With our current model, we will soon be celebrating Final Fours as Championship banners and elite 8's as final fours. Its already happening if you ask me. Because we won't be winning any more championships without having a few experienced upperclassmen starters in the program every year.
 
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JC CATS

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I agree. With our current model, we will soon be celebrating Final Fours as Championship banners and elite 8's as final fours. Its already happening if you ask me. Because we won't be winning any more championships without having a few experienced upperclassmen starters in the program every year.
Did you know only 8 teams in the country made the EE this year? :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
 

KYFOSSIL

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Jan 13, 2005
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I love discussing UK basketball. I am sorry that we cannot disagree like grown men and women. Immature kids start calling you names and trolls and using profanity. I am assuming the mods agree with them or they would ban them. Amazing to me that you cannot express your opinion without being labeled. Maybe just a product of this generation of kids
Unfortunately with the nature of your posts you feel like an itch that can’t be scratched. Every time there is unfavorable news you milk it for what it’s worth. There are a few here that embrace your misery but for most of us it’s getting very old.
 
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KYFOSSIL

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I agree. With our current model, we will soon be celebrating Final Fours as Championship banners and elite 8's as final fours. Its already happening if you ask me. Because we won't be winning any more championships without having a few experienced upperclassmen starters in the program every year.
We had a Senior and Sophomore start this year and next year we will have a sophomore dominant square plus a senior and junior.
 

KYFOSSIL

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They both do have the same number of NCAA titles. I couldn’t stand Tubby and still cant. After he got his huge contract he tanked it. Let’s see what Cal does in the next 5 years. If he doesn’t win another title he is an epic fail. I sure hope I am wrong. No one wants to see him do that more than me but things have to change. Maybe the grad transfer rule will help we can get 22 year old one and dones.
Please be honest you want to see Cal fail because that’s your agenda. He has placed us in a spot to seriously compete for the title 2 of the last 3 years and every reasonable fan in America would be very happy with that. I want FFs and NCs also but **** happens and it always doesn’t happen. He has a 40% FF rate that could easily be 60 % over his time here.
 

TNCatfanforever

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Unfortunately with the nature of your posts you feel like an itch that can’t be scratched. Every time there is unfavorable news you milk it for what it’s worth. There are a few here that embrace your misery but for most of us it’s getting very old.
Then don’t read or respond. I have been on here longer than most all of you so I call it seniority.
 

Cardsstink

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Please be honest you want to see Cal fail because that’s your agenda. He has placed us in a spot to seriously compete for the title 2 of the last 3 years and every reasonable fan in America would be very happy with that. I want FFs and NCs also but **** happens and it always doesn’t happen. He has a 40% FF rate that could easily be 60 % over his time here.

He ABSOLUTELY wants Cal to fail. When Duke was up by 9 on Mich St., he got giddy and said "Duke is destroying MSU and will advance to win their third title in the Cal era."

After Duke lost, he pouted for a day or so and has since started more threads in the last month than he did in the previous year+. But hey, he's been here longer than us so that makes him a good poster.....[laughing]