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Mike-D

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Perhaps but with the upcoming schedule in the Maui we will DEFINITELY find out

Perhaps? You still don’t have a legit big. So far you all have proven you can shoot. You have elite slashers. I don’t care what your backups did against UK when you all were up by 30. See what they do when one or two of the big 3 get in foul trouble in a tight game. I think your bench and lack of a big will haunt you at some point. Let’s just be real. That doesn’t mean you all don’t have the best team in the nation.
 

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Perhaps? You still don’t have a legit big. So far you all have proven you can shoot. You have elite slashers. I don’t care what your backups did against UK when you all were up by 30. See what they do when one or two of the big 3 get in foul trouble in a tight game. I think your bench and lack of a big will haunt you at some point. Let’s just be real. That doesn’t mean you all don’t have the best team in the nation.

Definitely don’t have a legit big but not sure you need one in today’s game.

The bench? I like my bench to be honest. Javin, Jack and Alex are good enough to provide quality minutes during foul trouble. Now if somebody fouls out and depending on who then yes that could become an issue. Injury is obviously a game changer.

But again, with the possibility of playing Auburn and Gonzaga soon, I suspect we will learn a lot more a about both of our contrasting opinions.
 

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You are going to feel very foolish in 5 months (and 5 years) if you re-read this comment or even remember you had such a ridiculous thought that Zion is better than Lebron James. My guess is you will forget all about it. There is a reason that Lebron was dubbed The King in HS and Zion wasn't even the #1 recruit. You don't need anyone as big as Zion to shut him down. He is not a post player. Just put an athetic 6'7" guy on him and cut down his driving. Also, make him work on defense. The more I think about your post, the more I am laughing.
And why isn’t PJ Washington that guy?
Our team should be a match-up nightmare for Duke. We should be much better in the backcourt and have the athletic size to mitigate their front line. I don’t exactly understand this.
 

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Definitely don’t have a legit big but not sure you need one in today’s game.

The bench? I like my bench to be honest. Javin, Jack and Alex are good enough to provide quality minutes during foul trouble. Now if somebody fouls out and depending on who then yes that could become an issue. Injury is obviously a game changer.

But again, with the possibility of playing Auburn and Gonzaga soon, I suspect we will learn a lot more a about both of our contrasting opinions.
It is YOUR bench lol dang bandwagon self entitled fans.
Go suck K off
 
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Lol one game didn’t crown Zion a mega star he has been that since HS. I don’t even get that comment considering the kid had 27 pts 16 rebs 6 blks and 4 asst today . Yes i would say Zion is a mega star.
Some in the national media claimed that Zion would lead his NBA (yes, NBA) team to multiple titles. I can't believe how out of control the take on Duke and Zion when mid-November isn't even here. Let's slow down the hype machine and wait until Duke wins their own conference and Zion is a first-team All-American before crowning them the greatest team ever and Zion the next NBA megastar.
 

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Some in the national media claimed that Zion would lead his NBA (yes, NBA) team to multiple titles. I can't believe how out of control the take on Duke and Zion when mid-November isn't even here. Let's slow down the hype machine and wait until Duke wins their own conference and Zion is a first-team All-American before crowning them the greatest team ever and Zion the next NBA megastar.
Just curious did you feel that way in 2013 when the media did that for our team ?

I hope they keep hyping them up . It’s puts a lot more pressure on them .
 
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This is why I thought some of you were way overreacting to the Ky-Duke game. They are good, but they were hitting every shot they threw up, and we were missing every shot. It was a fluke-ish game. It happens!

This is exactly what I said in the "Duke not as good as they looked against us" thread. It was one of those games where they hit everything they shot and our guys panicked. Four months will take care of this. Duke will still be good, but we will have improved a lot more than they will.
 

Ben101er

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Lol one game didn’t crown Zion a mega star he has been that since HS. I don’t even get that comment considering the kid had 27 pts 16 rebs 6 blks and 4 asst today . Yes i would say Zion is a mega star.

The kid is really good, no doubt about it. But, out of his 27 pts today, how many made threes where there and how many did he shoot?
 
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Watching the game, I don’t feel as bad now. Duke must’ve played out of their mind against us. Army hanging around with them at home.
It was a perfect storm against us. They couldn't miss from 3 and we couldn't buy one. After that it was like shell shocked. Rotation wasn't good, I feel like if we had played that game maybe game 4-5 it would have been a tight game. Rotation is starting to work itself out. Bahamas gave us one look and then it all changed so rotation and how we play has to change too.
 
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The kid is really good, no doubt about it. But, out of his 27 pts today, how many made threes where there and how many did he shoot?

he had 27 on 11 of 14 shooting.

What the heck does it matter how many 3s he's shooting lol


he's 21 of 25 on the season for 84%.

If he's shooting 84% from twos.........I don't want him worrying about threes.
 
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You must be really young, because pretty much everyone is comparing Zion to Larry Johnson. It's the most obvious comparison possible.
I may be older than you (graduated college in 1993). I never thought Larry Johnson was that good in the pros (college is another story). When he was in Charlotte, Alonzo Mourning was, by far, the better player and leader. Johnson was never that dominant in the pros. Good shot, good rebounder, but not a star. I would say Zion is closer to a Charles Barkley in college than Larry Johnson.
 

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I may be older than you (graduated college in 1993). I never thought Larry Johnson was that good in the pros (college is another story). When he was in Charlotte, Alonzo Mourning was, by far, the better player and leader. Johnson was never that dominant in the pros. Good shot, good rebounder, but not a star. I would say Zion is closer to a Charles Barkley in college than Larry Johnson.
I never said a word about LJ as a pro, though he was really good. Was just under a 20/10 guy his first few years. Was slowed by injuries the rest of his career, so who knows. Barkley in college isn't a bad comparison either, but Zion is a lot more like LJ at this point. That's why it's the comparison everyone is making. Their bodies are almost identical. As is their games.
 
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I would say Zion is closer to a Charles Barkley in college than Larry Johnson.

This is incorrect. And it's also kinda putting Zion down, because Larry Johnson was clearly a better college player than Barkley.

LJ won everything that can be won in his two years at UNLV. First year he carries em to the national championship, the next year to an undefeated season and the final four, consensus National Player of the Year, No 1 pick in the draft, etc. Hands down one of the greatest college players ever to live.

Barkley, on the other hand, was never even an All American and never won a single NCAA tournament game.

And, yeah, the young (pre-injuries) version of Larry Johnson is also the closest comparative I can think of for Zion. Not an exact fit, but it's the closest one out there.
 
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Who was Duke more fired up for....a top 5 UK team under the bright lights of a national TV spotlight. Or, an Army team with Coach K ties on Veterans Day? And they still rolled with ease.
 
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This is incorrect. And it's also kind of putting Zion down, because Larry Johnson was clearly a better college player than Barkley.

LJ won everything that can possibly be won in his two years at UNLV. His first year he carries his team to the national championship, the next year carries them to an undefeated season and the final four, consensus National Player of the Year, No 1 pick in the draft, etc. Hands down one of the greatest college players ever to live.

Barkley, on the other hand, was never even an All American and never won a single NCAA tournament game.

And, yeah, the young (pre-injuries) version of Larry Johnson is also the closest comparative I can think of for Zion. Not an exact fit, but it's the closest one out there.
2 games into his college career, Zion shouldn't be compared to anyone yet.
 

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I think it's safe to say that us, Duke fans, and certainly the media, hyped up Duke a bit too much after beating a Kentucky team whose performance was horrific.

Army was within 10 points for much of that game. Duke is not the world beaters everyone thought..
 

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I think it's safe to say that us, Duke fans, and certainly the media, hyped up Duke a bit too much after beating a Kentucky team whose performance was horrific.

Army was within 10 points for much of that game. Duke is not the world beaters everyone thought..

Time will tell.
 

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I think it's safe to say that us, Duke fans, and certainly the media, hyped up Duke a bit too much after beating a Kentucky team whose performance was horrific.

Army was within 10 points for much of that game. Duke is not the world beaters everyone thought..
 
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I think it's safe to say that us, Duke fans, and certainly the media, hyped up Duke a bit too much after beating a Kentucky team whose performance was horrific.

Army was within 10 points for much of that game. Duke is not the world beaters everyone thought..

2 games into his college career, Zion shouldn't be compared to anyone yet.

You guys need to pick a lane and stay with it.

One poster concludes that Duke isn't as good as people thought . . . based on two games, both of which were 20+ point wins.

Right after that, another poster says that no one should compare Zion to anyone yet . . . because it's only two games into the season.

Either you can make firm judgments after two games or you can't. In both cases, the person posting opts for the choice that puts Duke in a less flattering light. It's a rather fine echo chamber you have going here.
 

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I think it's safe to say that us, Duke fans, and certainly the media, hyped up Duke a bit too much after beating a Kentucky team whose performance was horrific.

Army was within 10 points for much of that game. Duke is not the world beaters everyone thought..
Anyone who expects Duke to run by every single opponent and destroy them is fooling themselves. That goes for any team in sports. The Golden St Warriors have had close games to bad teams before . You can’t expect a team to blow out a team from start to finish every game
 
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You guys need to pick a lane and stay with it.

One poster concludes that Duke isn't as good as people thought . . . based on two games, both of which were 20+ point wins.

Right after that, another poster says that no one should compare Zion to anyone yet . . . because it's only two games into the season.

Either you can make firm judgments after two games or you can't. In both cases, the person posting opts for the choice that puts Duke in a less flattering light. It's a rather fine echo chamber you have going here.

I've never thought Duke was QUITE as good as billed.. even after they beat a Kentucky team that struggled in exhibition games.

When you say "Pick a lane".. that's if the same guy says two different things. Not sure you understand how that phrase works. You quoted two different posters.

Duke is not 35 points better than Kentucky come March. That's where I stand.
 
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I've never thought Duke was QUITE as good as billed.. even after they beat a Kentucky team that struggled in exhibition games.

When you say "Pick a lane".. that's if the same guy says two different things. Not sure you understand how that phrase works. You quoted two different posters.

Duke is not 35 points better than Kentucky come March. That's where I stand.

Yeah probably only 15 to 20
 
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Well the thing is......they really only need to be better by 1 point in March lol

But honestly.......they played great.........we played horrible.

There is zero doubt in my mind if we meet back up with them it will be a competitive game.
 
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I remember the '15 team killed KU by 32 points and the next game against Boston U only had a 5 point halftime lead before winning by 24.
 
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This is exactly what I said in the "Duke not as good as they looked against us" thread. It was one of those games where they hit everything they shot and our guys panicked. Four months will take care of this. Duke will still be good, but we will have improved a lot more than they will.

Duke hit over 40% from 3 in both games so the idea that they “hit everything” vs uk is false. This is just how they are going to shoot.

The idea that uk “will have improved a lot more than they (duke) will” is just wishful thinking. Both teams will improve but there’s no reason to think uk’s improvement will be exponentially better. Hell, if you go by how prepared they both were for game one, you might have a better case that uk will improve more slowly.

It’s mind boggling that duke shoots over 40% from 3 and wins by 22 and people are using that as a reason for optimism. Smh
 
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You must be really young, because pretty much everyone is comparing Zion to Larry Johnson. It's the most obvious comparison possible.

Completely different player IMO. Larry Johnson was a very good athlete but nowhere near Zion. Zion is a freak with his speed and overall athleticism.
 

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You guys need to pick a lane and stay with it.

One poster concludes that Duke isn't as good as people thought . . . based on two games, both of which were 20+ point wins.

Right after that, another poster says that no one should compare Zion to anyone yet . . . because it's only two games into the season.

Either you can make firm judgments after two games or you can't. In both cases, the person posting opts for the choice that puts Duke in a less flattering light. It's a rather fine echo chamber you have going here.

At least one's a Cat fan, are you? If not, it's your business...
 

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Duke hit over 40% from 3 in both games so the idea that they “hit everything” vs uk is false. This is just how they are going to shoot.

The idea that uk “will have improved a lot more than they (duke) will” is just wishful thinking. Both teams will improve but there’s no reason to think uk’s improvement will be exponentially better. Hell, if you go by how prepared they both were for game one, you might have a better case that uk will improve more slowly.

It’s mind boggling that duke shoots over 40% from 3 and wins by 22 and people are using that as a reason for optimism. Smh

That was Duke’s ceiling and Kentucky’s floor. Roles are still being defined for UK while Duke has known how they were going to play since they signed. Got to admit that Zion looks like Randle a bit during the early part of the season but Zion will come back to Earth like it did for Randle. It’s fun to watch until weaknesses are exposed. Have fun it won’t last for long.
 

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Duke hit over 40% from 3 in both games so the idea that they “hit everything” vs uk is false. This is just how they are going to shoot.

The idea that uk “will have improved a lot more than they (duke) will” is just wishful thinking. Both teams will improve but there’s no reason to think uk’s improvement will be exponentially better. Hell, if you go by how prepared they both were for game one, you might have a better case that uk will improve more slowly.

It’s mind boggling that duke shoots over 40% from 3 and wins by 22 and people are using that as a reason for optimism. Smh

Nope. They shot 46.2% from 3 against us, and the only reason it wasn't higher was that their 2nd string jacked up a few that didn't go in. Plus, Zion was 2-2 against us, and tonight, 0-1. Expect more of the same from him. Tuesday night was an anomaly. Yes, they are good. No one is denying that. Are they as good as they were Tuesday night? No way, and we are not nearly as bad as we were. After 4 months of the schedule we have to play, we will not be the same team that lost to them.
 
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