After making it through maybe half of Trump’s incoherent, meandering, imbecilic musings…

sleepy64561

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Don't apologize for feeling stupid
Someone has to on this board

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RagnarLothbrok

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Just give it two weeks!
You know, I am convinced the main reason I continue to waste time posting and perusing this board is to verify the reality I exist in has a significantly larger population than the one guys like Tiger Growls and Palmetto live in. When some of the most persistent voices in this country are repeatedly telling you down is up, day is night, piss is rain, turds are Snickers, you start to question (a little) your own sanity.

I guess what I am trying to say is these days I have to take the Ronald Reagan “trust, but verify” approach to ensure that I am tuned into reality. Thank goodness for chaps like you. 😉
 

hawkeyetraveler

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You know, I am convinced the main reason I continue to waste time posting and perusing this board is to verify the reality I exist in has a significantly larger population than the one guys like Tiger Growls and Palmetto live in. When some of the most persistent voices in this country are repeatedly telling you down is up, day is night, piss is rain, turds are Snickers, you start to question (a little) your own sanity.

I guess what I am trying to say is these days I have to take the Ronald Reagan “trust, but verify” approach to ensure that I am tuned into reality. Thank goodness for chaps like you. 😉
I have wondered why I keep coming back as well from time to time. The idiocy is more off putting than sex panther cologne.

But yeah, the never Trumper crew around here keeps me grounded.
 

lucas80

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It’s quite clear to me there are two very divergent, opposing realities existing in the United States of America—one within the realm of normalcy; the other in a distant, mystical land of make believe.

Sadly, the latter is where the current POTUS resides along with his merry band of bootlicking sycophants and halfwits.

To summarize tonight’s bafflingly insane, embarrassing parody of a stranger than fiction sh*t show, Donald Trump began the evening addressing what would undoubtedly prove to be jaw-dropping revelations about the 2020 election by taking a few minutes to first suck his own dick. And when his self-fellating had run its bizarre and unnatural course, Trump shifted to…check notes…blame his own appointed intelligence officers for bamboozling and snookering him by hiding valuable pieces of evidence that would have blown the 2020 election doors off its hinges.

Oh, and then there was some “Chy-nuh, chy-nuh, chy-nuh!” drivel he was in the process of beginning to piss and moan about—some dastardly insidious plan of China’s to obtain the publicly available voting records of Americans—when I decided to call it quits.



At this point, if you care about the United States of America and our reputation around the world and aren’t absolutely embarrassed by the Tangerine Toddler, you are unequivocally a f#cking retard with no redemptive value of any sort. I was at least hoping the speech would be somewhat entertaining in being delusional, but this was as painfully boring as it was epically stupid. I mean, that was the bombshell revelation Scrubby, Growls, and others had been spending all week edging in anticipation of?

Hoooooo-lee sh*t! 😂
Tl;dr
An 80 year old man who is in steep mental and physical decline got loose from the staff.
Forget the rambling nonsense of a man who can't admit he got beat. He looked and sounded awful.
 

lucas80

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There is no regulation that requires them to air presidential addresses but when they don't, it's usually because they were considered overtly political and partisan and they don't want to give up a primetime slot, especially on Thursday night and for factually unverified political slop. In 2022 the networks declined to air Biden's address and in 2014 they declined one of Obama's addresses due to the partisan nature of their planned speeches.

Your article is behind a paywall fyi.
Last night wasn't just a political speech. It was an embarrassing display of mental decline. They might as well have given one of the dummies on here that I have on ignore 20 minutes.
 

baltimorened

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There is no regulation that requires them to air presidential addresses but when they don't, it's usually because they were considered overtly political and partisan and they don't want to give up a primetime slot, especially on Thursday night and for factually unverified political slop. In 2022 the networks declined to air Biden's address and in 2014 they declined one of Obama's addresses due to the partisan nature of their planned speeches.

Your article is behind a paywall fyi.
I admit that I did not watch the address. So, I don't know if it was political or factual - although I would guess it was intended to be both.

I do know, that Biden was inaugurated as President in 2021 and that he served 4 years as President. So a rational person would assume he was elected. And, in spite of all the prognoses that Trump would not leave the White House, he did.

But, from what I read, Trump laid out some "facts" from various intelligence communities that pointed out some inadequacies in our elections process and the possibilities that some outsiders are interfering in our elections. Now, I don't know if any of that is true or just trump rationalizing his loss in 2020. But, if there is even a modicum of truth in what Trump is saying, we should have some bipartisan group take a hard look at whatever evidence there is to support Trump's claims. My guess would be that part of what trump said was just "trump BS" but that some parts were true. So rather than just ignore it, maybe there's some value in an investigation.
 

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I admit that I did not watch the address. So, I don't know if it was political or factual - although I would guess it was intended to be both.

I do know, that Biden was inaugurated as President in 2021 and that he served 4 years as President. So a rational person would assume he was elected. And, in spite of all the prognoses that Trump would not leave the White House, he did.

But, from what I read, Trump laid out some "facts" from various intelligence communities that pointed out some inadequacies in our elections process and the possibilities that some outsiders are interfering in our elections. Now, I don't know if any of that is true or just trump rationalizing his loss in 2020. But, if there is even a modicum of truth in what Trump is saying, we should have some bipartisan group take a hard look at whatever evidence there is to support Trump's claims. My guess would be that part of what trump said was just "trump BS" but that some parts were true. So rather than just ignore it, maybe there's some value in an investigation.

Talk about job security. Researching everything Trump lays out as “truths” and “facts” across all his interviews, media posts, rallies, and speeches would employ the state of Delaware. For decades. **

** Hyperbole added for humor
 

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I admit that I did not watch the address. So, I don't know if it was political or factual - although I would guess it was intended to be both.

I do know, that Biden was inaugurated as President in 2021 and that he served 4 years as President. So a rational person would assume he was elected. And, in spite of all the prognoses that Trump would not leave the White House, he did.

But, from what I read, Trump laid out some "facts" from various intelligence communities that pointed out some inadequacies in our elections process and the possibilities that some outsiders are interfering in our elections. Now, I don't know if any of that is true or just trump rationalizing his loss in 2020. But, if there is even a modicum of truth in what Trump is saying, we should have some bipartisan group take a hard look at whatever evidence there is to support Trump's claims. My guess would be that part of what trump said was just "trump BS" but that some parts were true. So rather than just ignore it, maybe there's some value in an investigation.
Factually he got shredded for presenting no facts. Even CBS cut his feed. And they're owned by conservatives.

It was a purely political speech, that presented no facts, and was blasted as dangerous un American propaganda.

Why are you okay with that?
 

nytigerfan

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Says the guy who claimed Biden was “killing it”.


notice that none of them are able to refute what you wrote. They are deflecting with every other possible response. “Rent free!” “You are a narcissist!” “Didn’t read!” “Says the guy who said Biden was killing it”

deep down they know. They have just invested too much on this clown show already and are going to go down with the ship.
 

tboonpickens

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notice that none of them are able to refute what you wrote. They are deflecting with every other possible response. “Rent free!” “You are a narcissist!” “Didn’t read!” “Says the guy who said Biden was killing it”

deep down they know. They have just invested too much on this clown show already and are going to go down with the ship.
the other funny part is when the chuds act like saying Biden was killing it compared to this shitshow is somehow incorrect.

let's review what's happened in just 18 months since Biden left office...

  • thriving economy that was literally called the world's envy by The Economist in the tank
  • no new wars crowd has us ensconced in another neverending Middle East war that threatens the domestic and global economy and world order in general
  • innocent people being gunned down in the streets by untrained Gestapo thugs they pulled out of nuthouses apparently and gave OO7 license to kill
  • average first time homebuyer at oldest age ever
  • record defaults on credit card and student loan payments
  • highest inflation of any G7 country
  • job growth and other economic indicators so bad that this clown show administration is now cooking their own books and reporting
  • multiple cabinet members shown the door after failing spectacularly
  • baseless charges of election fraud from six phucking years ago still being platformed in humiliating fashion
  • Epstein pedo class being protected by Trump
  • Rs vote to merge the American armed forces with Israel
  • first family lining their pockets with crypto rugpull scams, pay for play pardons, insider trading, government contracts funneled to family companies, and literally rigging markets via a war in the Middle East
  • domestic crude oil reserves hit lowest level in 43 years
  • WH converted into tacky Thai restaurant/Saddam palace mashup while reflection pool is damaged by unqualified vendor who looks like Paul Bearer
  • hantavirus/ebola/measles/screwworm/cryptosporidiosis/cyclospora/parasitic diarrhea incidences and outbreaks on the rise while regulatory authorities are undermined by Trump's whack job appointees
  • literal Nazis march on DC to celebrate America's 250th
 

dpic73

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I admit that I did not watch the address. So, I don't know if it was political or factual - although I would guess it was intended to be both.

I do know, that Biden was inaugurated as President in 2021 and that he served 4 years as President. So a rational person would assume he was elected. And, in spite of all the prognoses that Trump would not leave the White House, he did.

But, from what I read, Trump laid out some "facts" from various intelligence communities that pointed out some inadequacies in our elections process and the possibilities that some outsiders are interfering in our elections. Now, I don't know if any of that is true or just trump rationalizing his loss in 2020. But, if there is even a modicum of truth in what Trump is saying, we should have some bipartisan group take a hard look at whatever evidence there is to support Trump's claims. My guess would be that part of what trump said was just "trump BS" but that some parts were true. So rather than just ignore it, maybe there's some value in an investigation.
Oh Ned, then you should have watched it or at least a replay because you're way off the mark.

Though it may have included "some" facts, it definitely wasn't intended to be factual. This was sheer fear mongering with old news that we already knew about and fake claims about non-citizens on the voting rolls, voting machines in Venezuela and deep state actors.
  • He raged about an intelligence report from 2019 that showed that China had planned an influence campaign to damage his candidacy, though they decided not to. However, in the same document trove was intelligence that showed Russia was going to/did the same for Biden, however, he conveniently left that part out.
    • As part of his claim he said China had obtained voting data on 220 million voters, though this is publicly available information and on top of that, there aren't that many eligible voters here, so that was a lie.​
  • He claims they found 278.000 non-citizens on the voting rolls of four blue states but experts and the states themselves says there's no way that's true and it's almost certain that this is old data and the majority of those names were once non-citizens who have since been naturalized. But because they haven't shared those lists with the states, they don't have a way to disprove the claim. Nevertheless, Markwayne used this bad data as fodder for his Nazi-esque rage about withholding funds and criminalizing states who allow a non-citizen to vote.
  • He did mention Venezuelan voting machines changing some votes - though that was unverified intelligence about something that happened in Venezuela only, not the States.
In short, this was old information that the intelligence community has investigated thoroughly and he didn't even claim voter fraud. This was just an old man afraid of the mid-terms, trying to force his party into pushing through the Voter Suppression bill with scare tactics. And he came across as wildly unhinged and desperate, so you can stop pretending that this was noteworthy.



It also needs to be noted that he's dismantled or damaged every agency/ task force that monitors election interference so we can correctly surmise, that's not at all his real concern. He just doesn't want any of those agencies to monitor what he's doing.



"Trump spent primetime warning America about foreign election interference.

His administration cut CISA's election-security staff, dismantled key information-sharing programs, disbanded the FBI's Foreign Influence Task Force, gutted ODNI's influence center, and left the Election Assistance Commission without leadership.

If the threat is as serious as he says, why weaken the people responsible for finding it?

A warning carries more weight when you don't dismantle the smoke detectors first."
 
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dpic73

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On Ned, then you should have watched it or at least a replay because you're way off the mark.

Though it may have included "some" facts, it definitely wasn't intended to be factual. This was sheer fear mongering with old news that we already knew about and fake claims about non-citizens on the voting rolls, voting machines in Venezuela and deep state actors.
  • He raged about an intelligence report from 2019 that showed that China had planned an influence campaign to damage his candidacy, though they decided not to. However, in the same document trove was intelligence that showed Russia was going to/did the same for Biden, however, he conveniently left that part out.
    • As part of his claim he said China had obtained voting data on 220 million voters, though this is publicly available information and on top of that, there aren't that many eligible voters here, so that was a lie.​
  • He claims they found 278.000 non-citizens on the voting rolls of four blue states but experts and the states themselves says there's no way that's true and it's almost certain that this is old data and the majority of those names were once non-citizens who have since been naturalized. But because they haven't shared those lists with the states, they don't have a way to disprove the claim. Nevertheless, Markwayne used this bad data as fodder for his Nazi-esque rage about withholding funds and criminalizing states who allow a non-citizen to vote.
  • He did mention Venezuelan voting machines changing some votes - though that was unverified intelligence about something that happened in Venezuela only, not the States.
In short, this was old information that the intelligence community has investigated thoroughly and he didn't even claim voter fraud. This was just an old man afraid of the mid-terms, trying to force his party into pushing through the Voter Suppression bill with scare tactics. And he came across as wildly unhinged and desperate, so you can stop pretending that this was noteworthy.



It also needs to be noted that he's dismantled or damaged every agency/ task force that monitors election interference so we can correctly surmise, that's not at all his real concern. He just doesn't want any of those agencies to monitor what he's doing.



"Trump spent primetime warning America about foreign election interference.

His administration cut CISA's election-security staff, dismantled key information-sharing programs, disbanded the FBI's Foreign Influence Task Force, gutted ODNI's influence center, and left the Election Assistance Commission without leadership.

If the threat is as serious as he says, why weaken the people responsible for finding it?

A warning carries more weight when you don't dismantle the smoke detectors first."

I wanted to add that Georgia's election supervisor, Gabe Sterling, was interviewed last night and he explained that election authorities already have their hands full with the normal blocking and tackling required to pull off the mid-terms in a timely manner and if you add all the provisions of the SAVE Act to their responsibilities, mistakes will happen and when they are caught, Trump will likely use those mistakes to call the results invalid and may even seize the ballots and machines.

And there could be as many as 100 million people that will need to re-register in person so can you imagine how long the lines will be to get that many people registered in time? They may also overwhelm the system with requests for birth certificates and/or passports.

This is a scary, un-American assault on our democracy and should not be taken lightly.

We must not let this bill pass.
 

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I admit that I did not watch the address. So, I don't know if it was political or factual - although I would guess it was intended to be both.

I do know, that Biden was inaugurated as President in 2021 and that he served 4 years as President. So a rational person would assume he was elected. And, in spite of all the prognoses that Trump would not leave the White House, he did.

But, from what I read, Trump laid out some "facts" from various intelligence communities that pointed out some inadequacies in our elections process and the possibilities that some outsiders are interfering in our elections. Now, I don't know if any of that is true or just trump rationalizing his loss in 2020. But, if there is even a modicum of truth in what Trump is saying, we should have some bipartisan group take a hard look at whatever evidence there is to support Trump's claims. My guess would be that part of what trump said was just "trump BS" but that some parts were true. So rather than just ignore it, maybe there's some value in an investigation.
Exactly. If only would bother to look at some of this. It's amazing that nobody has bothered to look at the facts in the last 6 years. Seems like a natural that Trump could win some court cases if he just presented these facts
 

RagnarLothbrok

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Exactly. If only would bother to look at some of this. It's amazing that nobody has bothered to look at the facts in the last 6 years. Seems like a natural that Trump could win some court cases if he just presented these facts
How incompetent must your legal team have to be for half a decade to pass by and still be incapable of presenting any tangible evidence whatsoever of rampant cheating and mass voter fraud?

Seems if it were occurring on such a large scale, they would have been able to present something for the courts to at least sneeze at.
 
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I wanted to add that Georgia's election supervisor, Gabe Sterling, was interviewed last night and he explained that election authorities already have their hands full with the normal blocking and tackling required to pull off the mid-terms in a timely manner and if you add all the provisions of the SAVE Act to their responsibilities, mistakes will happen and when they are caught, Trump will likely use those mistakes to call the results invalid and may even seize the ballots and machines.

And there could be as many as 100 million people that will need to re-register in person so can you imagine how long the lines will be to get that many people registered in time? They may also overwhelm the system with requests for birth certificates and/or passports.

This is a scary, un-American assault on our democracy and should not be taken lightly.

We must not let this bill pass.
I don't know if the bill will pass or not. But it does seem clear that there isn't enough to time to implement it prior to 2026 elections. I just read an OPED by sen murkowski. She's a "no" vote on the bill and she lays out the case why. Assuming what she says is true, and I have no reason to doubt her, the bill would make it extremely difficult for some of her constituents to register and to vote.
 

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I don't know if the bill will pass or not. But it does seem clear that there isn't enough to time to implement it prior to 2026 elections. I just read an OPED by sen murkowski. She's a "no" vote on the bill and she lays out the case why. Assuming what she says is true, and I have no reason to doubt her, the bill would make it extremely difficult for some of her constituents to register and to vote.
True because of the distance to a registrar's office, many Alaskans would have to fly to register in person.
 
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Jonathan Swan says that when President Trump returned to office, he pressured the intelligence community to produce some kind of evidence proving that the 2020 election was stolen, and that Trump’s Thursday night address was the best they could do.

Jonathan Swan: One way of looking at last night is as the culmination of an almost six-year effort. We have some reporting in the book that, in early 2021, Trump was telling people privately that he thought he could be reinstated as president that summer and was being encouraged by some people around him that this was a possibility.

When he came back into power this term, he started to put pretty intense pressure on the intelligence community to come up with some kind of evidence that could prove the 2020 election was stolen.

Last night, one way of looking at it is that this is the best they can do. Essentially, this was their best effort to prove that case. Of course, they didn’t. But that’s the genesis of last night.
 
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dpic73

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I don't know if the bill will pass or not. But it does seem clear that there isn't enough to time to implement it prior to 2026 elections. I just read an OPED by sen murkowski. She's a "no" vote on the bill and she lays out the case why. Assuming what she says is true, and I have no reason to doubt her, the bill would make it extremely difficult for some of her constituents to register and to vote.
Here's a Republican saying what I've been saying for months. He said we would have had to start a year ago to get this correctly implemented in time, due to the complexity. He gives a great explanation so give it a listen.

 
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You guys are awfully desperate. It’s really sad. All of this rampant cheating and Team MAGA has produced nothing burgers in 6 years. And that’s being generous.

Revisiting the Russia hoax of 2016, Robert Mueller’s Special Counsel indicted 34 people which led to 8 guilty pleas and 1 conviction.

That’s a little tastier nothing burger in my book.
 
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