2027 Recruiting Thread

PSU89er

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It’s puzzling to me when PSU supposedly has the largest dues-paying alumni base in the country. But maybe it’s because the alumni are paying dues rather than NIL. 😂
What do alumni dues even cost per year. $50. I'm just guessing. I think a lifetime membership when I got out of college was like $200.

Its a far cry from expecting the general alumni to pay for NIL ten dollars at a time.
 

ZouaveLion

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No....just a new handle for an existing troll.
Having worked in.the mental.health world, l m starting to wonder if at some point there will be a new entry iestablished in the DSM-5 for this kind of.this online behavior.
In other news hopefully the Texas corner hops on board today for the Blue and White.
 

PSUFTG

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The one unexpected benefit of the Pay for Play Era (Can people ever stop calling it "NIL"? That is such nonsense. Who are people trying to propagandize? Themselves?):

EVERY kid who chooses any other program over Penn State: The Fans can use the one-size-fits-all excuse of "Some other program threw a gigantic bag of money at him"

Back in the day, there were at least a better variety of alibies ("The kid had character issues", "The kid couldn't qualify academically", "We are already getting better players at that position" etc etc).
Now? It is so much easier :
"Program __X__ threw a bag of money at player __Y__". Lather, rinse, repeat (and repeat, and repeat, and repeat) Often accompanied by "That's what my insider information told me" :)
 

Phlebitis

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Here are 2 glaring NIL blunders committed by Franklin:

1) Using valuable NIL money on Julian Fleming to play WR. This was one of the worst NIL moves of the Franklin era.
Fleming was a well known bust at Ohio State and Franklin signed him anyway. (2024 example)

2) Using valuable NIL money on 5 star TE Andrew Olesh. Olesh didn’t even dress for a single game and was not able to get beyond 4th string at the tight end position at Penn State. (2025 example)

Olesh’s TE peers by comparison, all played during their freshman year in 2025:

Elyiss Williams (Georgia) - played in 13 games as a 5 star TE
Linkon Cure (Kansas State) - played in 9 games as a 5 star TE
DaSaahn Brame (Tennessee) - played in 9 games as a 4 star TE
Nick Townsend (Texas) - played in 13 games as a 4 star TE

Given Penn State’s known TE depth, it made no financial sense to allocate valuable NIL funds for the TE position in 2025.

This blunder prevented Penn State from signing CB Brandon Finney who signed with Oregon and was named 2nd team All-B1G and defensive MVP in the 2026 Orange Bowl.
And for some full circle irony, Oregon ended up with Olesh too.
 

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What do alumni dues even cost per year. $50. I'm just guessing. I think a lifetime membership when I got out of college was like $200.

Its a far cry from expecting the general alumni to pay for NIL ten dollars at a time.
An offshoot of Histrionic Personality Disorder?
 

LMTLION

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So, I guess PSU threw a "bag of money" at him? :)
We may have to a degree as we are up against big money here in his home state. I know he’s not rated that high yet on the services, but Terry always loved him and according to one of the recent podcasts would’ve taken him as a fifth CB before the decommitments.
The whole moneybags thing still disgusts me. I fully support these kids getting paid, but the lack of structure versus professional sports is really disgusting to me. There will be so much movement between now and signing day, good and bad for us, that it really has changed recruiting and following it.
 
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LionsAndBears

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We may have to a degree as we are up against big money here in his home state. I know he’s not rated that high yet on the services, but Terry always loved him and according to one of the recent podcasts would’ve taken him as a fifth CB before the decommitments.
The whole moneybags thing still disgusts me. I fully support these kids getting paid, but the lack of structure versus professional sports is really disgusting to me. There will be so much movement between now and signing day, good and bad for us, that it really has changed recruiting and following it.

I point to schools like Texas Tech and Indiana as perennial losers who have now become playoff teams and even National Champions. Historical relevence goes back about 3 years nowadays. Unless you have unlimited sums of money, you better win at a high level every year if you want to stay in contention for the playoffs.

This is why Franklin had to go. He took a team with a great chance at winning a National Championship and made them a loser. If there wasn't a change, he would have set this program back a decade based on the 2025 results.
 
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Expect more? Based off what? When was Penn State’s last Natty?
So improvement is not to be expected? Enjoy the mud.

 

LionsAndBears

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McGee will announce his commitment tomorrow, 6/24 @ 7pm according to this article. Also, this article from yesterday indicates that it's the writer's belief that we're running 3rd behind SMU & Texas.

Dhillon McGee

The author of this article, which said we were the 3rd team behind Texas and SMU for McGee 2 days ago, just put in an RPM for PSU.
 
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PSUForever

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There was never an opinion stated that he isn’t a good player. You’re either lacking reading comprehension or creating trouble. Probably both. And Penn State’s golden child Prince Landon is likely less than a season away from going National anyway. Seems to be more of an expert on Oregon and Notre Dame these days.
Great, admit he is an excellent pickup and move on.
 

PSUForever

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LOL, you must be new here. He’s a troll and people that have seen his decades long act know better. He defended all things Paterno and Franklin, but now has issues with PSU because JF got fired. MC hasn’t even coached a game and this is an act for him. Just like his BWIcac BS. Act like a DQ, get treated like a DQ.
This dude ALREADY whatever is a new troll. How exciting! And he puts his username in ALL CAPS!!
 
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PSUFTG

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I point to schools like Texas Tech and Indiana as perennial losers who have now become playoff teams and even National Champions. Historical relevence goes back about 3 years nowadays. Unless you have unlimited sums of money, you better win at a high level every year if you want to stay in contention for the playoffs.

This is why Franklin had to go. He took a team with a great chance at winning a National Championship and made them a loser. If there wasn't a change, he would have set this program back a decade based on the 2025 results.
I don't think it is "that easy" for so-called perennial losers to jump to the head of the line - that said, Texas tech and Indiana are interesting case studies (as you point out).

If your contention is true (and I think it is at least partially true) I think the far more interesting thing is this:

This "new paradigm", if your contention is correct, was CREATED by exactly those schools who benefited from the "old paradigm" (ie the Traditional Powers, in short the Big Ten and SEC bigwigs, and a few others), They created this current mess through repeated and very intentional actions on their part - that they somehow thought would all benefit their quest for power and ego (and $).
They ARE NOT innocent bystanders in this thing - they certainly are not righteous "victims". They CREATED it. Through intentional and deliberate actions. Even though a 14 year old could see where it would all lead.
And now have the audacity to be asking other entities (including the Federal Government????) to save them from themselves, but just not in any way that usurps their personal self-interests.
It is hilarious, in a sad sort of way.

That is at least a bit of comic relief to be had, in light of the destruction of college sports, and this head-long race to be the winner in the MADD race (which most sports fans find to be not so funny)
 
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LMTLION

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I point to schools like Texas Tech and Indiana as perennial losers who have now become playoff teams and even National Champions. Historical relevence goes back about 3 years nowadays. Unless you have unlimited sums of money, you better win at a high level every year if you want to stay in contention for the playoffs.

This is why Franklin had to go. He took a team with a great chance at winning a National Championship and made them a loser. If there wasn't a change, he would have set this program back a decade based on the 2025 results.
This is why we have a GM office that runs like an NFL GM office. We do not have unlimited money like a Texas tech or Oregon, so we have to scout for value, only engage in bidding wars for players that absolutely fit the system, and right now financially prepare for landing serious portal talent. Portal talent is the most expensive to land, so that’s why they have a cap on what they will spend on the 2027 high school recruiting class. I think the 2028 class is going to be dynamite as a lot of expense associated with the coaching transition roster turmoil falls away and Campbell’s staff has time to build relationships. We’re the only school that went through a coaching transition that essentially lost a whole year of recruiting.
 
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PSUForever

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You’re preaching to the choir brother.
I have to believe PSU is prepared to match any offer Nebraska can come up with. We absolutely need to land Taylor and they know that.

It is good news that none of the experts like Dohn have changed their forecast even after his OV to Nebraska. Obviously we can monitor this over the next couple of weeks.

Hall was trending to Auburn and the experts got that right so hopefully they get Taylor to PSU right.
 

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I have to believe PSU is prepared to match any offer Nebraska can come up with. We absolutely need to land Taylor and they know that.

It is good news that none of the experts like Dohn have changed their forecast even after his OV to Nebraska. Obviously we can monitor this over the next couple of weeks.

Hall was trending to Auburn and the experts got that right so hopefully they get Taylor to PSU right.

On the other hand, some of those same experts had Spell coming back to Penn State, until he wasn’t.

I will wait until the paper is signed by Taylor.
 

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Colorado emerging as a late dark horse in the Khalil Taylor sweeps AKA they dropped a bag...
The only attraction for Colorado has to be the $. I guess they are willing to spend big $ on the two PA players. Sure isn't the coaching or being part of a winning program. The only thing to do about this nonsense is laugh.
 
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LMTLION

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Colorado emerging as a late dark horse in the Khalil Taylor sweeps AKA they dropped a bag...
Both Nebraska and Colorado are now getting in a bidding war for him at an absolutely ridiculous level. Yeah, sucks, we won’t get K Taylor. It would also be monumentally stupid to be in the range of over a mill a year for a high school recruit WR when you have a $30 mil payroll budget. Pay it for a proven wr commodity in the portal. We’ll see if Nebraska and Colorado are able to keep their monetary commitments through signing day in December, especially if Sanders leaves Colorado. Jenkins took an obscene amount of money from Sanders along with housing for his family in Colorado. It’s all ridiculous. Some will be unhappy we won’t pay for this, but I think it’s smart.
 

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Both Nebraska and Colorado are now getting in a bidding war for him at an absolutely ridiculous level. Yeah, sucks, we won’t get K Taylor. It would also be monumentally stupid to be in the range of over a mill a year for a high school recruit WR when you have a $30 mil payroll budget. Pay it for a proven wr commodity in the portal. We’ll see if Nebraska and Colorado are able to keep their monetary commitments through signing day in December, especially if Sanders leaves Colorado. Jenkins took an obscene amount of money from Sanders along with housing for his family in Colorado. It’s all ridiculous. Some will be unhappy we won’t pay for this, but I think it’s smart.
Portal WR may cost more. There’s no getting around spending the money. Moneyball will only get you so far.
 

LMTLION

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Portal WR may cost more. There’s no getting around spending the money. Moneyball will only get you so far.
The portal WR will cost more, probably a lot more, but that’s a far better investment to make than giving over a mill to an unproven high school recruit. And that’s the number right now that’s coming out of Colorado. Not worth it. Does it suck? Absolutely. Is our wr recruiting in need of improvement ? Yes. But it’s just not worth it and the rest of this class at the other position groups is in great shape. And you absolutely do not give a high school recruit more than you’re giving current players like Kobe Howard. That lack of system broke the 2025 team.
 

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The portal WR will cost more, probably a lot more, but that’s a far better investment to make than giving over a mill to an unproven high school recruit. And that’s the number right now that’s coming out of Colorado. Not worth it. Does it suck? Absolutely. Is our wr recruiting in need of improvement ? Yes. But it’s just not worth it and the rest of this class at the other position groups is in great shape. And you absolutely do not give a high school recruit more than you’re giving current players like Kobe Howard. That lack of system broke the 2025 team.
1 million for a freshman to likely sit on the bench, only to have the recruit renegotiate the next year and go to the highest bidder? That's a waste of $1 million.
 

PSUForever

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Both Nebraska and Colorado are now getting in a bidding war for him at an absolutely ridiculous level. Yeah, sucks, we won’t get K Taylor. It would also be monumentally stupid to be in the range of over a mill a year for a high school recruit WR when you have a $30 mil payroll budget. Pay it for a proven wr commodity in the portal. We’ll see if Nebraska and Colorado are able to keep their monetary commitments through signing day in December, especially if Sanders leaves Colorado. Jenkins took an obscene amount of money from Sanders along with housing for his family in Colorado. It’s all ridiculous. Some will be unhappy we won’t pay for this, but I think it’s smart.
So you think Taylor is headed to Nebraska or Colorado?
 

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Both Nebraska and Colorado are now getting in a bidding war for him at an absolutely ridiculous level. Yeah, sucks, we won’t get K Taylor. It would also be monumentally stupid to be in the range of over a mill a year for a high school recruit WR when you have a $30 mil payroll budget. Pay it for a proven wr commodity in the portal. We’ll see if Nebraska and Colorado are able to keep their monetary commitments through signing day in December, especially if Sanders leaves Colorado. Jenkins took an obscene amount of money from Sanders along with housing for his family in Colorado. It’s all ridiculous. Some will be unhappy we won’t pay for this, but I think it’s smart.

I am fine with Coach Campbell not overpaying for a player. No doubt, Taylor looks to be a very good player. However, it’s not like he is a Marvin Harrison Jr. He’s not at that level.

If Taylor decides not to come to Penn State, then so be it. Penn State should consider the portal or consider flipping a WR from another program.
 

LMTLION

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So you think Taylor is headed to Nebraska or Colorado?
Absolutely, I posted earlier today our GM office runs this just like an NFL GM office. They’re going to stay within the budget approach to ensure they can meet needs elsewhere in the roster construction. Not only is it a concern that Taylor himself is going over a mill, but then you are raising next year’s payroll artificially as other players demand raises. Compensation numbers are all widely known between agents and the players themselves. Taylor’s number could cause you to spend several million more elsewhere in the roster. Is he worth $3m - $5 million roster impact for next year? Hell no. I’ve said this before, be glad that we have a disciplined approach, but they’re not perfect. They thought they had these two other WRs in the bag and gave up on Baldwin, which was an obvious mistake. They’ll learn. Hopefully we flip the other Taylor out of Delaware.
 

PSUForever

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I am fine with Coach Campbell not overpaying for a player. No doubt, Taylor looks to be a very good player. However, it’s not like he is a Marvin Harrison Jr. He’s not at that level.

If Taylor decides not to come to Penn State, then so be it. Penn State should consider the portal or consider flipping a WR from another program.
We should have guidelines and spending discipline so if Taylor is way out of the budget and disrupts the payroll of all the current WRs then we need to walk away.

I'm not sure how a program like Colorado can waltz in at the 11th hour and just overpay. Did he even visit there? He must have some kind of relationship with them...I hope at least.

He had canceled all the other visits after his PSU OV then decides to go to Nebraska after all, now Colorado shows up. If this guy is looking for the highest payday and not much else then we need to pass.

It would suck not to get him. I guess that would be it for the '27 class, just Blum. Then what? Prioritize a portal transfer who could start in '27 I guess.
 

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Both Nebraska and Colorado are now getting in a bidding war for him at an absolutely ridiculous level. Yeah, sucks, we won’t get K Taylor. It would also be monumentally stupid to be in the range of over a mill a year for a high school recruit WR when you have a $30 mil payroll budget. Pay it for a proven wr commodity in the portal. We’ll see if Nebraska and Colorado are able to keep their monetary commitments through signing day in December, especially if Sanders leaves Colorado. Jenkins took an obscene amount of money from Sanders along with housing for his family in Colorado. It’s all ridiculous. Some will be unhappy we won’t pay for this, but I think it’s smart.
Agree.
Portal WR may cost more. There’s no getting around spending the money. Moneyball will only get you so far.
Portal WR may cost the same Nebby & CU are offeting Taylor but the player from the portal will be a proven one. Let Taylor walk to the $.
 

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Jenkins and Taylor are future Nits, but not until they spend at least 1 year making insane money at a school which has little chance of being any good.

I can't fault them for taking the big payday, if the numbers that are being reported are real. I do however think it would be a bad move to spend the majority of their college careers at schools like Colorado and Nebraska.