2027 Recruiting Thread

Marshall2323

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Be a smart arse all you want and to a certain extent despite your sarcasm, you are correct. Any coach would be really smart to listen to how Cig brings an abundence of new players, integrates them into his starting lineup without upsetting the apple cart. He's obviously got it down really well, and I doubt he's telling people exactly what he is looking for and how he does it.

CIg has shown at every level (go google him) that he does win, and he does it with a boatload of new players to his system that contribute day one. So is his system likely hard or likely easy to understand? As I've said, other coaches are going to start to figure out a lot of what he is doing. Really, I doubt people like me and you have much of a clues as to how he identities and pulls kids in. Though I feel certain he'd rather have a 5th year senior multi year starter from Tulsa or FCS over a 5 star HS kid.

Why is Campbell stating over and over that having a Becht who understands his system is so so so important to this team? How well did Mendoza understand Cigs system in the spring of 2025. What about Kurtis Roarke in the spring of 2024. Go look at his stats in 2024.
Is Cig the reincarnation of Knute Rockne? LOL
 

Marshall2323

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This thread is getting out of hand, there are about six posters, of whom i think have
double handles. The opinions smack of Juvenile language, or bots hinting of Jimmy
apologists,and MC haters.
Jimmy is gone, Matt is here, and Indiana won the National Championship with zero 5
stars. Deal with it.
Yes, let's have a message board where everyone thinks the same. People with opinions that differ from the majority are dangerous. There is no telling where such subterfuge could lead.
It could lead to revolution or a coup d'etat.....a sudden and violent overthrow of the the Kraft/Campbell regime and an attempt to reinstate James Franklin. This is serious. :eek:
Indiana is national champion and Curt Cignetti must be worshipped. As no one has ever coached a national championship football team before. He is the way and the light. LOL
 

Marshall2323

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The worst is the retired coach in his cheerleading skirt for Jimmy still. He needs to go to the VT board and be the victim he has constantly made himself out to be over the years over there.
Boohoo and I always just wanted to have friends here. Everyone is so kind, knowledgeable and welcoming. Do we have an arm patch to wear?
 

Marshall2323

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Maybe reading comprehension isn't one of your strong suits but no where did I say Coach Campbell was a hero, just willing to give him a chance before condemning him like BGJ goo gobblers. BGJ proved he couldn't hire staff to fit his roster, couldn't win big games and proved a failure in game time decisions.
I'm very excited to watch Campbell achieve excellence at the highest level. Franklin's failures are "in the books." Along with his 104-45 record 2 conference championship appearances, one championship, 5 top 10 finishes, 6 seasons of 10 or more wins.
2 playoff wins, and Fiesta, Cotton and Rose Bowl victories. Let's make some hard and fast predictions about what Campbell's career record will be at PSU. What do you predict? How many NC? If he coaches 150 games, what are you willing to say his record will be. Because he's sooooo much better than CJF who by the way, had a better record than PSU had in it's previou 150 (before his tenure).
We Deserve Better......
 
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Marshall is so annoying I now have him on ignore. I encourage others to do so as your board experience will become remarkably improved. Jesus Christ could become the head coach here and he would have problems with him.
It’s kind of like when you park under the wrong tree and the birds s*** all over your car. If you don’t put the dodos on ignore then you have to put up with them s****ing on every thread.
 
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Patterson825

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The one that cracks me up on the message boards over the years is that if you don’t absolutely kiss Penn State’s *** on everything, people call you a traitor, a troll, dumb, or negative. I remember criticizing Franklin numerous times over the last few years and you would’ve thought I’d killed someone. I’ll say Campbell is a good game-day coach who can win a natty this year, but if I criticize his recruiting — missing out on every PA kid and top targets — then I’m a piece of **** troll who’s negative all the time 🤣
 
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LionsAndBears

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If we can add Currie and Paiva in the coming days, this class will really be in fantastic shape. I'm not discounting the connection between National Champions and the average star ranking for recruiting classes but I really think that this 2027 Class is going to either perform better than its ranking or we'll see the players increase their rankings after the camp and fall seasons.

Hopefully we can adequately defend this class against future poachers because they're going to come.
 
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LMTLION

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If we can add Currie and Paiva in the coming days, this class will really be in fantastic shape. I'm not discounting the connection between National Champions and the average star ranking for recruiting classes but I really think that this 2027 Class is going to either perform better than its ranking or we'll see the players increase their rankings after the camp and fall seasons.

Hopefully we can adequately defend this class against future poachers because they're going to come.
I agree with your overall assessment. Assuming we keep the class together to date, I think Dean and Odoh are going to be high 4 stars by the end of the cycle. Odoh would be now if he did not get nicked up in his junior year. I’m super positive about every aspect of the class except for OL. I think it is a group that has a very high ceiling, but not as many college ready bodies as I would hope for. And it looks like we are going to lose Carter Jones to Clemson, which is very unfortunate.
 

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I agree with your overall assessment. Assuming we keep the class together to date, I think Dean and Odoh are going to be high 4 stars by the end of the cycle. Odoh would be now if he did not get nicked up in his junior year. I’m super positive about every aspect of the class except for OL. I think it is a group that has a very high ceiling, but not as many college ready bodies as I would hope for. And it looks like we are going to lose Carter Jones to Clemson, which is very unfortunate.
Who is going to pressure the qb?
 

Marshall2323

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Marshall is so annoying I now have him on ignore. I encourage others to do so as your board experience will become remarkably improved. Jesus Christ could become the head coach here and he would have problems with him.

Marshall is so annoying I now have him on ignore. I encourage others to do so as your board experience will become remarkably improved. Jesus Christ could become the head coach here and he would have problems with him.
I submit to you that it is the BWICAC who would sour on JC after he coached a game or two and demand he be replaced by his father. Matt Campbell is only popular with the peanut gallery because he has not yet actually coached here.
 

Marshall2323

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The one that cracks me up on the message boards over the years is that if you don’t absolutely kiss Penn State’s *** on everything, people call you a traitor, a troll, dumb, or negative. I remember criticizing Franklin numerous times over the last few years and you would’ve thought I’d killed someone. I’ll say Campbell is a good game-day coach who can win a natty this year, but if I criticize his recruiting — missing out on every PA kid and top targets — then I’m a piece of **** troll who’s negative all the time 🤣
"and never be said a discouraging word and the skies are not cloudy all day....Home home on the range..."
 

LMTLION

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This is one to watch on June. He likes us and we really like him. Our wr class is better than we have seen in quite some time already with the two we have. This would make it great (or Taylor who is still out there.)
 

Patterson825

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If we can add Currie and Paiva in the coming days, this class will really be in fantastic shape. I'm not discounting the connection between National Champions and the average star ranking for recruiting classes but I really think that this 2027 Class is going to either perform better than its ranking or we'll see the players increase their rankings after the camp and fall seasons.

Hopefully we can adequately defend this class against future poachers because they're going to come.

Spoken like a true loser. Get 3 stars get 3 star results in the end. But but Cignetti did it 😂
 

Alphalion75

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The one that cracks me up on the message boards over the years is that if you don’t absolutely kiss Penn State’s *** on everything, people call you a traitor, a troll, dumb, or negative. I remember criticizing Franklin numerous times over the last few years and you would’ve thought I’d killed someone. I’ll say Campbell is a good game-day coach who can win a natty this year, but if I criticize his recruiting — missing out on every PA kid and top targets — then I’m a piece of **** troll who’s negative all the time 🤣
It's ok to criticize Campbell's recruiting. But at least acknowledge that he and his staff may have a plan and that the kids he's recruiting have a role in that plan. In other words, he may know what he's doing. Afterall, he's been in this game for quite awhile. I won't criticize his recruiting until I dont see it transitioning into wins on game day.
 
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Alphalion75

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Also people excited about Paiva. He’s from Utah and not offered by Utah or BYU. Another dud
The NFL may not be excited about Pavia. But I'll bet the Vanderbilt fans enjoyed his games, just as Nittany Lion fans enjoyed Trace McSorley's games.
 
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BCS PSU

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It's ok to criticize Campbell's recruiting. But at least acknowledge that he and his staff may have a plan and that the kids he's recruiting have a role in that plan. In other words, he may know what he's doing. Afterall, he's been in this game for quite awhile. I won't criticize his recruiting until I dont see it transitioning into wins on game day.
What amazes me is that it appears as if some expected Campbell to come in and immediately have a 1991 type of recruting class, which never was going to happen. What has happened is that it appears as if he is putting together a very solid and good class and, if he has a good 2026 season, his succeeding classes will have more players with more stars, which will make people happy who think that only high school kids who have a lot of stars next to their names automatically means that they'll be college All Americas.

By the way, I still am amazed that a lot of people fall for this star garbage, which anybody who knows anything about recruiting knows that a lot of that is contrived based on many factors, such as whether a particular school shows interest in a kid or whether a kid was just a man among boys in high school. How many four and five star players have washed out at PSU or any other school simply because they never were that good to begin with, and how many lightly regarded kids, like Paul Posluszny, became All-Americas and major award winners?

Also, to the people who constantly criticize Campbell for no apparent reason, be happy becasuse in another few years a significant portion of the 2027 class won't even be at PSU anymore, just like at every other school.
 
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Bison13

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What amazes me is that it appears as if some expected Campbell to come in and immediately have a 1991 type of recruting class, which never was going to happen. What has happened is that it appears as if he is putting together a very solid and good class and, if he has a good 2026 season, his succeeding classes will have more players with more stars, which will make people happy who think that only high school kids who have a lot of stars next to their names automatically means that they'll be college All Americas.

By the way, I still am amazed that a lot of people fall for this star garbage, which anybody who knows anything about recruiting knows that a lot of that is contrived based on many factors, such as whether a particular school shows interest in a kid or whether a kid was just a man among boys in high school. How many four and five star players have washed out at PSU or any other school simply because they never were that good to begin with, and how many lightly regarded kids, like Paul Posluszny, became All-Americas and major award winners?

Also, to the people who constantly criticize Campbell for no apparent reason, be happy becasuse in another few years a significant portion of the 2027 class won't even be at PSU anymore, just like at every other school.
Yep I learned so much about the recruiting and evaluation system from Bryan Bresee's recruiting and talking to the Clemson coaching staff multiple times. The stars are a good reference point and kids like him are obviously easy to rank, but when the recruiting services are contacting recruits to come to a specific camp or showcase for free so they can match them up against other specific kids or a certain service tells you to keep certain schools in your top 5, 6, 7, etc. even though you have eliminated them from consideration, you know there is a lot of shadiness to the process.
 

Patterson825

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I think there is a difference between people with annoying takes and those you routinely hurl insults art anyone who questions they're takes.

Where did you get you personality... in a car crash?

Go back to when this all started. I simply stated that Campbell’s recruiting wasn’t good so far, and people immediately started throwing insults. Every recruit they get is a 3-star, and the same people glaze them up, saying “underrated guy — I’m sure he’ll be a 4-star by the end!”

Literally, how delusional are some of these fans? If you’ve been paying attention, I defended his recruiting just a month ago. But when you miss out on almost every PA kid and numerous other targets, and you’re settling for under-recruited guys from the Midwest or Northeast, that’s not a good sign. Sure, Campbell will hit on a few of them, but just like Franklin, most of these 3-stars and “hidden gems” don’t pan out. I’m just being a realist.