2027 Recruiting Thread
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Yes, let's have a message board where everyone thinks the same. People with opinions that differ from the majority are dangerous. There is no telling where such subterfuge could lead.
It could lead to revolution or a coup d'etat.....a sudden and violent overthrow of the the Kraft/Campbell regime and an attempt to reinstate James Franklin. This is serious.
Indiana is national champion and Curt Cignetti must be worshipped. As no one has ever coached a national championship football team before. He is the way and the light. LOL
Boohoo and I always just wanted to have friends here. Everyone is so kind, knowledgeable and welcoming. Do we have an arm patch to wear?
I'm very excited to watch Campbell achieve excellence at the highest level. Franklin's failures are "in the books." Along with his 104-45 record 2 conference championship appearances, one championship, 5 top 10 finishes, 6 seasons of 10 or more wins.
2 playoff wins, and Fiesta, Cotton and Rose Bowl victories. Let's make some hard and fast predictions about what Campbell's career record will be at PSU. What do you predict? How many NC? If he coaches 150 games, what are you willing to say his record will be. Because he's sooooo much better than CJF who by the way, had a better record than PSU had in it's previou 150 (before his tenure).
We Deserve Better......
That’s excellent news. I actually believe that he is one of the more important recruits in the class. He and Montgomery will form that core interior D line of the future.
Marshall is so annoying I now have him on ignore. I encourage others to do so as your board experience will become remarkably improved. Jesus Christ could become the head coach here and he would have problems with him.
I really dont understand posters who make judgements on Campbell before he's ever coached a game yet as Penn State's HC. Aren't game results the ultimate determination on the successes of a coach?
I have been on the PSU Message Boards since 2000 and I don't recall a year when there were so many individual pissing matches, as with this year. I hope this is just a blip on the radar and not an indication of what our Message Boards are going to look like going forward.
It’s kind of like when you park under the wrong tree and the birds s*** all over your car. If you don’t put the dodos on ignore then you have to put up with them s****ing on every thread.
I go away for a couple of days and Mr. Ego craps all over the thread again. Has to respond one by one to poster after poster, dispensing his “wisdom” and “insights.” What a condescending a-hole.
We have several very highly rated transfers and the number 1 TE.
The one that cracks me up on the message boards over the years is that if you don’t absolutely kiss Penn State’s *** on everything, people call you a traitor, a troll, dumb, or negative. I remember criticizing Franklin numerous times over the last few years and you would’ve thought I’d killed someone. I’ll say Campbell is a good game-day coach who can win a natty this year, but if I criticize his recruiting — missing out on every PA kid and top targets — then I’m a piece of **** troll who’s negative all the time 
If we can add Currie and Paiva in the coming days, this class will really be in fantastic shape. I'm not discounting the connection between National Champions and the average star ranking for recruiting classes but I really think that this 2027 Class is going to either perform better than its ranking or we'll see the players increase their rankings after the camp and fall seasons.
Hopefully we can adequately defend this class against future poachers because they're going to come.
Hopefully we can adequately defend this class against future poachers because they're going to come.
I agree with your overall assessment. Assuming we keep the class together to date, I think Dean and Odoh are going to be high 4 stars by the end of the cycle. Odoh would be now if he did not get nicked up in his junior year. I’m super positive about every aspect of the class except for OL. I think it is a group that has a very high ceiling, but not as many college ready bodies as I would hope for. And it looks like we are going to lose Carter Jones to Clemson, which is very unfortunate.
I submit to you that it is the BWICAC who would sour on JC after he coached a game or two and demand he be replaced by his father. Matt Campbell is only popular with the peanut gallery because he has not yet actually coached here.
"and never be said a discouraging word and the skies are not cloudy all day....Home home on the range..."The one that cracks me up on the message boards over the years is that if you don’t absolutely kiss Penn State’s *** on everything, people call you a traitor, a troll, dumb, or negative. I remember criticizing Franklin numerous times over the last few years and you would’ve thought I’d killed someone. I’ll say Campbell is a good game-day coach who can win a natty this year, but if I criticize his recruiting — missing out on every PA kid and top targets — then I’m a piece of **** troll who’s negative all the time
Spoken like a true loser. Get 3 stars get 3 star results in the end. But but Cignetti did it
I think there is a difference between people with annoying takes and those you routinely hurl insults art anyone who questions they're takes.
Where did you get you personality... in a car crash?Spoken like a true loser. Get 3 stars get 3 star results in the end. But but Cignetti did it
It's ok to criticize Campbell's recruiting. But at least acknowledge that he and his staff may have a plan and that the kids he's recruiting have a role in that plan. In other words, he may know what he's doing. Afterall, he's been in this game for quite awhile. I won't criticize his recruiting until I dont see it transitioning into wins on game day.The one that cracks me up on the message boards over the years is that if you don’t absolutely kiss Penn State’s *** on everything, people call you a traitor, a troll, dumb, or negative. I remember criticizing Franklin numerous times over the last few years and you would’ve thought I’d killed someone. I’ll say Campbell is a good game-day coach who can win a natty this year, but if I criticize his recruiting — missing out on every PA kid and top targets — then I’m a piece of **** troll who’s negative all the time
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The NFL may not be excited about Pavia. But I'll bet the Vanderbilt fans enjoyed his games, just as Nittany Lion fans enjoyed Trace McSorley's games.
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What amazes me is that it appears as if some expected Campbell to come in and immediately have a 1991 type of recruting class, which never was going to happen. What has happened is that it appears as if he is putting together a very solid and good class and, if he has a good 2026 season, his succeeding classes will have more players with more stars, which will make people happy who think that only high school kids who have a lot of stars next to their names automatically means that they'll be college All Americas.
By the way, I still am amazed that a lot of people fall for this star garbage, which anybody who knows anything about recruiting knows that a lot of that is contrived based on many factors, such as whether a particular school shows interest in a kid or whether a kid was just a man among boys in high school. How many four and five star players have washed out at PSU or any other school simply because they never were that good to begin with, and how many lightly regarded kids, like Paul Posluszny, became All-Americas and major award winners?
Also, to the people who constantly criticize Campbell for no apparent reason, be happy becasuse in another few years a significant portion of the 2027 class won't even be at PSU anymore, just like at every other school.
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Yep I learned so much about the recruiting and evaluation system from Bryan Bresee's recruiting and talking to the Clemson coaching staff multiple times. The stars are a good reference point and kids like him are obviously easy to rank, but when the recruiting services are contacting recruits to come to a specific camp or showcase for free so they can match them up against other specific kids or a certain service tells you to keep certain schools in your top 5, 6, 7, etc. even though you have eliminated them from consideration, you know there is a lot of shadiness to the process.
Go back to when this all started. I simply stated that Campbell’s recruiting wasn’t good so far, and people immediately started throwing insults. Every recruit they get is a 3-star, and the same people glaze them up, saying “underrated guy — I’m sure he’ll be a 4-star by the end!”
Literally, how delusional are some of these fans? If you’ve been paying attention, I defended his recruiting just a month ago. But when you miss out on almost every PA kid and numerous other targets, and you’re settling for under-recruited guys from the Midwest or Northeast, that’s not a good sign. Sure, Campbell will hit on a few of them, but just like Franklin, most of these 3-stars and “hidden gems” don’t pan out. I’m just being a realist.
According to insiders, Franklin historically had a staffer at PSU that lobbied the recruiting services to bump up the star ratings of his commits. Nowadays, you would not want to do that, regardless of the great publicity, as that increases the price tag for that player. I agree that stars can be directional, but the entire industry lacks authenticity. There’s often very little difference, if any, between somebody rated three star 88 and four star 90. As you said, it’s very difficult to judge players, particularly based on the local talent. Fleming was a 5 star that epitomizes that - a year older than everybody else in a region that probably doesn’t have the best coverage secondaries. He gave his best in college at both schools, but at pro day he ran a 4.72 40, which is fcs level.
I expect Campbell's win rate to be similar, but with some big differences in how it plays out. I expect him to be MUCH more successful in top 10 matchups, just like he had at ISU. Even winning 40-50% of those would be a huge boost, but of course, winning those during the season will mean tougher matchup post-season. So while I think when it's all said and done, he'll win more of the big ones and be more decorated, win rate is probably similar. No idea if he can win a national championship, of course, so time will tell.
There was a lot of good about James Franklin. But unfortunately, he wasn't able to accomplish the ultimate goal of winning a championship--or ever beating the teams in that tier. And it's not just a delusional fans wanting to win the whole thing, it was his goal and his players' goal too. He had 12 years and for as "close" as he got, everybody and their uncle just knew he couldn't do it. Somehow, someway, he just psyches his team out in big moments.
Seriously, stop responding to this troll. Patterson, Marshall and Rig need to be on ignore by everyone. When they get no responses it won't be any more fun for them to annoy all other posters.