Howard just threw a punch

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Players all love Howard supposedly. He has recruited well. I’d rather have my coach push an opponents coach then push his own player during halftime of a NCAA game on the National stage.
Why can't you have both? The bar shouldn't be so low.
 
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Does he have any good takes? 🤷‍♂️ That crap he tweeted to Tiquan Underwood was awful. Guy needs to be taken down more than a few pegs.
What did he tweet at Tiquan?

Observation and Questions:

It is obvious that Howard did not like the timeout call with 15 seconds left and said so to Gard.

I am not certain, but Gard tried to talk to Howard.
We do not know what Howard said to Gard and Gard said to Howard before they were separated.

What we don't know is why Howard came forward and slapped the Wisconsin Assistant coach.
Did the Wisconsin Assistant Coach (ex-Wisconsin player) say something to provoke Howard into coming forward to slap him in the face?

My Opinion:
The situation was already heated, so assistant coaches on both sides should keep their mouth shut and keep their players away from the opposing players and coaches.

There is no excuse for fighting during or after a basketball game.

I would not be surprised to see both Howard and the Wisconsin Assistant Coach suspended.
The players that threw punches should also be suspended.

The Big Ten should investigate this situation further from start to finish (game through the end of the incident after the game).
You want the wisc assistant to get suspended for getting hit? Lol he didn't swing at anyone
Have a hunch Michigan AD has already called John Beilein.
Phil would just take over I would think

Calling that timeout is bush league and then making it a big deal that Howard didn’t want to shake his hand.

Not saying they are equal.
Howard full court pressing scrubs with seconds left is what was Bush league and that started everything. If they want to play to the whistle than Wisconsin can too. Can't have it both ways. You press and expect them to give up. That'd nonsensical

Gard wasn’t willing to be the better man. You are winning by 17. Let it go. Had he let it go there is no altercation.
Huh? Lol

Pressing down 15 isn’t bush league. Calling a TO is. Just my opinion.
You have this soooo backwards. Further proof it's just Howard being a jerk is he called a late timeout against us. Complete hypocrite
 

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Pressing down 15 isn’t bush league. Calling a TO is. Just my opinion.

have to admit Gard didn’t handle things like he should have.
I assume Mich was pressing to try to cut the deficit so it wouldn't look so bad. Gard called the TO to reset the 10 second clock with his scrubs to preserve a dominant win. Howard is responsible for this end game, not shaking hands on the line is classless and he severely overreacted to Gard's contact by grabbing his shirt and putting his finger in his face, almost making contact, then the full force slap to a coach. The only thing Gard did wrong was to try to stop him from walking by without shaking.
 
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G- RUnit

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Hard to find fault with anything Gard did.
If Howard is going to press or set a cheap pick against Caleb with less than a minute to go, he deserves scorn.

The physical stuff is ridiculous. He should be fired.
 
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Can any Howard defender come up with a coherent defense of how he coached the last minute against us being okay, but Gard calling timeout wasn't? Seems like a topic a reporter could ask him to explain.

The guy has some wires crossed in his brain. He needs to step back and get serious help IMO before something truly bad happens. I think he should be out the rest of the season minimum but suspect he gets two games and that's it.
 

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For as long as I’ve been watching college basketball, the losing team dictates the behavior of the winning team. Once the losing team raises the white flag, the team that’s winning follows suit. In this case, Howard never raised the white flag so Gard had every right to call timeout. Classless people like Howard will never understand that.
 

Scarlet Blind_rivals

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1)Wisconsin called TWO Timeouts last minute of the game.

2)One at 48.6 after Chucky Hepburn hit a three with 5 second left on the shot clock up 16 to get it to 19, to get 5 scrubs come off the.bench some meaningful experience with 48.6 left vs Michigan as a FU to Howard for last year's blowout win over Wisconsin.

3)Other 3 meetings,
19-20 Wisconsin 81 @ Michigan 74
****20-21 Wisconsin 54 @ Michigan 77**** &
Michigan 67 @ Wisconsin 59.

Wisconsin 23 31 54
Michigan 40 37 77

They were up 37 at one point 69-32, 10 minutes left, 71-38, 7:10 left, Guess what Juwan brought in the scrubs at the 4 minute media timeout, 3:26 left 75-48, up 27. Not one TO the final 3:26. Gard intentionally called a time out after a Chucky Hepburn 3 to get 5 scrubs in to prove a point. Juwan did it at the right time in the game. 2nd game sweeping Wisconsin, no incidents

(Jordan Davis 20 games 21-22, played in 2 reg reason games vs Michigan
Carter Gilmore 20 games 21-22 first Michigan game
3rd with 7 games in 21-22(1st Michigan),
4th with 5 games in 21-22(1st Michigan)
5th with 3 games in 21-22(1st Michigan).

This is acceptable in a B1G tournament game to get guys in who might not experience a B1G tournament game or an NCAA tournament game who might not ever play in a March Madness game. It was one of thirty or thirty one in the regular season. I'm sure they can tell their grandkids one day "I remember when I entered my first regular season game vs Michigan, it was 48.6 second left on the clock, we were up 19, and grandpa turned the ball over." Really?

That is the ONLY reason Juwan started to press Wisconsin at 48.6 seconds after the first Timeout and the second TO was silly, 14pt or 12pt win, like it mattered?

With a little context from last year's embarassing loss @ UM, Greg Gard was butt hurt from the game last year and played that last minute like a sore winner by rubbing it in Juwan's face, "See I can get scrubs in too". Childish.
 
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Blind, I don't agree. Coaches have used a timeout in the last minute of home games that are out of reach for 30+ years to let the guys on the court hear it from the crowd, and to let the bench guys appear in a game. For those who said, well, it wasn't their last home game: they are fighting for the conference title. What if their last home game goes down to the wire? No chance to clear the bench.

Juwan can be mad if he wants but the head coach can't start a fight. Period.
 

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I assume Mich was pressing to try to cut the deficit so it wouldn't look so bad. Gard called the TO to reset the 10 second clock with his scrubs to preserve a dominant win. Howard is responsible for this end game, not shaking hands on the line is classless and he severely overreacted to Gard's contact by grabbing his shirt and putting his finger in his face, almost making contact, then the full force slap to a coach. The only thing Gard did wrong was to try to stop him from walking by without shaking.
 

RUBOB72

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Cut the deficit to 12? Howard is another spoiled , over hyped former player, who thinks he’s still the enforcer on the court.
 
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1)Wisconsin called TWO Timeouts last minute of the game.

2)One at 48.6 after Chucky Hepburn hit a three with 5 second left on the shot clock up 16 to get it to 19, to get 5 scrubs come off the.bench some meaningful experience with 48.6 left vs Michigan as a FU to Howard for last year's blowout win over Wisconsin.

3)Other 3 meetings,
19-20 Wisconsin 81 @ Michigan 74
****20-21 Wisconsin 54 @ Michigan 77**** &
Michigan 67 @ Wisconsin 59.

Wisconsin 23 31 54
Michigan 40 37 77

They were up 37 at one point 69-32, 10 minutes left, 71-38, 7:10 left, Guess what Juwan brought in the scrubs at the 4 minute media timeout, 3:26 left 75-48, up 27. Not one TO the final 3:26. Gard intentionally called a time out after a Chucky Hepburn 3 to get 5 scrubs in to prove a point. Juwan did it at the right time in the game. 2nd game sweeping Wisconsin, no incidents

(Jordan Davis 20 games 21-22, played in 2 reg reason games vs Michigan
Carter Gilmore 20 games 21-22 first Michigan game
3rd with 7 games in 21-22(1st Michigan),
4th with 5 games in 21-22(1st Michigan)
5th with 3 games in 21-22(1st Michigan).

This is acceptable in a B1G tournament game to get guys in who might not experience a B1G tournament game or an NCAA tournament game who might not ever play in a March Madness game. It was one of thirty or thirty one in the regular season. I'm sure they can tell their grandkids one day "I remember when I entered my first regular season game vs Michigan, it was 48.6 second left on the clock, we were up 19, and grandpa turned the ball over." Really?

That is the ONLY reason Juwan started to press Wisconsin at 48.6 seconds after the first Timeout and the second TO was silly, 14pt or 12pt win, like it mattered?

With a little context from last year's embarassing loss @ UM, Greg Gard was butt hurt from the game last year and played that last minute like a sore winner by rubbing it in Juwan's face, "See I can get scrubs in too". Childish.
Scarlet Blind fits your post quite well.
 

Scarlet Blind_rivals

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Blind, I don't agree. Coaches have used a timeout in the last minute of home games that are out of reach for 30+ years to let the guys on the court hear it from the crowd, and to let the bench guys appear in a game. For those who said, well, it wasn't their last home game: they are fighting for the conference title. What if their last home game goes down to the wire? No chance to clear the bench.

Juwan can be mad if he wants but the head coach can't start a fight. Period.
I don't buy it. Gard got EMBARASSED last year at U of M. 21-19 at the 9:30 1st half to 69-29 10'40 2nd half. That was Gard being a dick about it and rubbing his win in Juwan Howard's face, and Juwan was trying to shake all the players hands and was not going to shake Gard or any assistants hand because he knew exactly what Gard did when he did it, anything else was going to be a lie, like Gard did to the media.
 

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I don't buy it. Gard got EMBARASSED last year at U of M. 21-19 at the 9:30 1st half to 69-29 10'40 2nd half. That was Gard being a dick about it and rubbing his win in Juwan Howard's face, and Juwan was trying to shake all the players hands and was not going to shake Gard or any assistants hand because he knew exactly what Gard did when he did it, anything else was going to be a lie, like Gard did to the media.
I'm confused. Gard was rubbing it in by... playing his backups and walk-ons?
 

Scarlet Blind_rivals

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I'm confused. Gard was rubbing it in by... playing his backups and walk-ons?
Why else would you put in scrubs with 48.6 seconds left by calling a timeout in that spot? He got woodsheded all over the floor at Michigan last year, from 21-19 9:30 left first half to 69-29 10:30 left second half finished 77-54. Then, get beat on your home court by that same team after Michigan's Covid pause, Wisconsin up 12 at half 39-27, woodsheded again 2nd half on your home court 40-20, Final score Michigan 67-59. Yes, Gard was being a sore winner and rubbing it in his face after the 2 losses last.year by putting in scrubs.
 

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Why else would you put in scrubs with 48.6 seconds left by calling a timeout in that spot? He got woodsheded all over the floor at Michigan last year, from 21-19 9:30 left first half to 69-29 10:30 left second half finished 77-54. Then, get beat on your home court by that same team after Michigan's Covid pause, Wisconsin up 12 at half 39-27, woodsheded again 2nd half on your home court 40-20, Final score Michigan 67-59. Yes, Gard was being a sore winner and rubbing it in his face after the 2 losses last.year by putting in scrubs.
Even as you say , “ Gard was rubbing it in”. Does that excuse the end of game actions by coaches and teams ? By certain players egging on other team members…That actually was lost on some who are only seeing the rift between Howard and Gard. There were several Michigan ( one in particular) players wailing away after taunting back at Wisconsin coaches. This needs to be addressed by the conference AD’s and Administrations.
 

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Can any Howard defender come up with a coherent defense of how he coached the last minute against us being okay, but Gard calling timeout wasn't? Seems like a topic a reporter could ask him to explain.

The guy has some wires crossed in his brain. He needs to step back and get serious help IMO before something truly bad happens. I think he should be out the rest of the season minimum but suspect he gets two games and that's it.
Except for the slap/punch (how was the play Mrs. Lincoln?) this is the biggest issue with Juwan. He has more than once had his guys press and be physical when a game is decided. To the whine and complain the other team is still playing?
You can’t have it both ways.

A tough guy and tough team would want the best from the other team. Ok with Howard if he wants his team to go all out non matter what. You just can’t have it both ways

A faux tough guy and bully cries when the other side punches back……
 

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If everything had happened up to and including Gard grabbing Howard's arm and Howard grabbing Gard's shirt, pointing his finger in Gard's face and then walking away, no one gets suspended. Then Howard hit a guy. Over. Suspended, at least.
 

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If everything had happened up to and including Gard grabbing Howard's arm and Howard grabbing Gard's shirt, pointing his finger in Gard's face and then walking away, no one gets suspended. Then Howard hit a guy. Over. Suspended, at least.
Howard claimed it was self defense lol. Punky move.
 

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Why else would you put in scrubs with 48.6 seconds left by calling a timeout in that spot? He got woodsheded all over the floor at Michigan last year, from 21-19 9:30 left first half to 69-29 10:30 left second half finished 77-54. Then, get beat on your home court by that same team after Michigan's Covid pause, Wisconsin up 12 at half 39-27, woodsheded again 2nd half on your home court 40-20, Final score Michigan 67-59. Yes, Gard was being a sore winner and rubbing it in his face after the 2 losses last.year by putting in scrubs.
Do you even watch basketball? Rubbing it in would be keeping your starters in and running your full offense. The opposite of that is putting in your bench and walk ons.

If you're going to THAT upset about that as a coach, I don't think being a division 1 head coach is right for you.

The violence and aggressiveness of Howard is simply unacceptable. Dude literally grabbed Gard by his shirt like a school bully.

He also threatened to kill Mark Turgeon. What is wrong with him?
 

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not his first offense. A pattern of violent behavior has been shown. This is supposed to be a teacher of young men, a representative of a university and a conference. Should be fired.

Let’s see how the B1G, UM, faculty, and student body reacts.

I’d bet he doesn’t get fired.