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A serious question for Schiano lovers

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brad1218

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I don’t think Schiano is the best coach around. He certainly has issues, but so do most coaches. He is the safest choice by far and if he hires a quality OC and let’s them do their job which I think he will then I think he has a shot to do very well.
 
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jerzeyguy

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Dont forget that cotton candy OOC that year..

UNC: 3-9 record
Illinois: 2-10 record
Ohio: Mac school
Howard: Non Major


tico brown said:
One out of 11 years is nothing to brag about...

I'm sorry one out of the 7 since the first 4 seasons dont count on this board.
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RUforlife

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Knight Ed said:
Schiano spent 11 years at Rutgers and never won a conference title. Heck, Flood figured out how to do that. His last three seasons on the banks his best finish was 4th place in the crappy old Big East.
Why do you remember him being as a guy which after more than a decade on the job could only deliver a crappy 4th place in a conference much weaker than the BigTen? And why do you believe he will somehow do better and not be completely outmatched by better game day coaches like he was for 11 years in the old Big East?
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Dude you just don't get it, if you talk to some of his former players and staff, the guy is hung like a horse and that along with the gap in his front teeth really does it for some of the "hardcore" Schiano lovers on this board.
 
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JoeRU0304

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jerzeyguy said:
Dont forget that cotton candy OOC that year..

UNC: 3-9 record
Illinois: 2-10 record
Ohio: Mac school
Howard: Non Major
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When was the Illinois series scheduled? You probably don't know so I'll tell you- 2001, when they were 10-2 and B1G champs and we were a lousy 2-9. I was amazed at how Schiano was able to see 5 years into the future- truly a mystical event. Ohio also won the MAC East that year.


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fg7321 said:
There are three things you need to know about College Football. Everything else falls into place based on these three things

1) Recruiting
2) Recruiting
3) Recruiting

Greg Schinao can flat out recruit and has all the connections to jump-start the program and give hope where it is desperately needed .
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I hear Justin Shorter will be coming from PSU if Greg is the coach
 
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MYHATINTHERING said:
most people wanted him gone on this board as he demonstrated he was not a good game-day coach and spent too much time on the small micro details. This board has a short memory. He is the best short-term option but ultimately will hold the program back long-term if brought back
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What will hold the program back long-term is hiring another cheap/unproven coordinator or possibly worse, an also-ran like Adazzio.

I don't expect miracles from GS and yes, his past issues with game day coaching are a concern. But I believe he has a very good chance of getting the program back to a good level where it can be handed off to the next in line (if he can't take it to the next level). Is there someone out there who could do a better job? Probably, but what are the chances Hobbs can find and then hire him. We're much more likely to get another Flood or Ash than the original GS.
 
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jerzeyguy

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Does change the fact that it was a weak schedule in 2006? The schedule was weak and he still couldn't get the job done. Texas bowl bc he couldn't take care of a 7 win Cincy team and couldn't beat a freshman backup quarterback. This is this guys one glory yr - in a decade too

JoeRU0304 said:
When was the Illinois series scheduled? You probably don't know so I'll tell you- 2001, when they were 10-2 and B1G champs and we were a lousy 2-9. I was amazed at how Schiano was able to see 5 years into the future- truly a mystical event. Ohio also won the MAC East that year.


Joe P.
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Knight Ed said:
Schiano spent 11 years at Rutgers and never won a conference title. Heck, Flood figured out how to do that. His last three seasons on the banks his best finish was 4th place in the crappy old Big East.
Why do you remember him being as a guy which after more than a decade on the job could only deliver a crappy 4th place in a conference much weaker than the BigTen? And why do you believe he will somehow do better and not be completely outmatched by better game day coaches like he was for 11 years in the old Big East?
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Listen, how do you not see it. We were horrible before he got here. We were respectable while he was here. We sucked since his players left. APR scores anyone? Why did he get hired by NFL? Why Miami and Michigan have interest? What is your agenda?
 
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Knight Ed said:
Schiano spent 11 years at Rutgers and never won a conference title. Heck, Flood figured out how to do that. His last three seasons on the banks his best finish was 4th place in the crappy old Big East.
Why do you remember him being as a guy which after more than a decade on the job could only deliver a crappy 4th place in a conference much weaker than the BigTen? And why do you believe he will somehow do better and not be completely outmatched by better game day coaches like he was for 11 years in the old Big East?
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I don’t believe you understand what GS accomplished here! He did so much with so little. Imagine what he can accomplish now with real support! Come on folks!
 
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JoeRU0304

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jerzeyguy said:
Does change the fact that it was a weak schedule in 2006? The schedule was weak and he still couldn't get the job done. Texas bowl bc he couldn't take care of a 7 win Cincy team and couldn't beat a freshman backup quarterback. This is this guys one glory yr - in a decade too
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When you look at how much we won in the two decades prior to the 2000's I can see where your disappointment comes from. I hope they find all the awards and trophies we won during those years so we can display them again.


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Knight Ed said:
I listed his actual stats. 11 years zero conference titles. Average Big East finish was 5th. His last 3 years his best finish was 4th.
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Randy Edsall won two conference titles. Maybe you would prefer him? He may pick up the phone too.
 
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RUEWR90

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With Schiano the team had identity. Special teams, defense... I don’t remember the exact stats, but we were up there with blocked punts. We lost that identity with Flood and Ash.
 
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jerzeyguy

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I don't care about that. I care about reaching our potential. And Greg is not good enough to get us there. Its time move on to bigger and better things -- away from the influence of Greg Schiano

JoeRU0304 said:
When you look at how much we won in the two decades prior to the 2000's I can see where your disappointment comes from. I hope they find all the awards and trophies we won during those years so we can display them again.


Joe P.
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jerzeyguy said:
I don't care about that. I care about reaching our potential. And Greg is not good enough to get us there. Its time move on to bigger and better things -- away from the influence of Greg Schiano
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Now I know you’re trolling. What is Rutgers potential?
 
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RUScrew85

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Knight Ed said:
Schiano spent 11 years at Rutgers and never won a conference title. Heck, Flood figured out how to do that. His last three seasons on the banks his best finish was 4th place in the crappy old Big East.
Why do you remember him being as a guy which after more than a decade on the job could only deliver a crappy 4th place in a conference much weaker than the BigTen? And why do you believe he will somehow do better and not be completely outmatched by better game day coaches like he was for 11 years in the old Big East?
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We'll never be better than the middle of the pack in the B1G anyway at least not for the foreseeable financial and resource future. Greg's the only guy within budget that we know about that actually has a chance at getting it done.

That's it for me.

I don't particularly like the guy and I don't think he's a very good coach.

BUT. If we're winning 6 or 7 a year in 5,6,7,8,9 years and he leaves maybe we actually can attract a coach that can take us over the top in the B1G.

Right now though with the hole we're in and the "budget" RU is talking about he's likely the best shot. Plus maybe he learned something rubbing shoulders with Urban and NFL coaches and don't forget being a friend of Belecheks.

Plus I'm pretty impressed with the reported 100 pages of homework he's done for this job.
 
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RU76

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Schiano built the program so that the HC job was a destination. The next 2 guys destroyed the program with lack of discipline and/or lack of ability to recruit. It is stupid to object to bringing someone in with GS's skill set to resurrect the program. We know he is capable
 
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GSGS

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He was good enough to be the DC for the best college FB HC around and good enough to be hired as DC by the best football coach god ever created (Belichick), but he's not good enough to coach at one of the worst pgms in the history of Div1? What r u smoking?
 
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Kbee3

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superfan01 said:
For one. Floods team that “won” the big East was all schiano guys.
Schiano literally took a d1-as program who had been to one bowl in 125 years and got them to be ranked in the top 15 in the final polls within 5 years. He went to 7 bowl games. We have been to a total of 3 bowl games in the 140 years he wasn’t a coach.
he ran a very clean program that was top APR every year.
he recruited at the highest level ever for Rutgers
He built the facilities and stadium expansion.
Very few scandals or arrests.
He was more than a coach to many players and students and alumni. See Legrand
We went from 5k season tickets to a waiting list under him.
HE IS THE REASON WE ARE IN THE BIG!!

there is no candidate right now interested in this job that will better meet our needs then Greg. At the very least he will reunite the fanbase and bring in recruits and get facilities built.
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So true.
 
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this time around Greg will have the best staff by far he has ever had here. or at least potentially with the budget he will be given.
 
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I am anti-GS.
Historically a poor game day coach. And I wanted him gone after sitting through some of his crap performances. Control freak with some really weird OCD tendencies that rub people the wrong way. And I hate the fact that he is actually the best candidate to potentially get this pathetic program back on track.

So in conclusion. Just GS needs to be hired ASAP. I don't even think there's a close second choice.
Also, Hobbs needs to go. He fooled me - but when I saw him rage at the reporter - that was more about his own agenda- not that he was protecting and defensive about his beloved Rutgers. He has convinced me by his own actions and non actions - including his getting Pikell to shill for him - that we all now see him for what he really is... A self-serving snake.
 
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Knight Ed said:
Schiano spent 11 years at Rutgers and never won a conference title. Heck, Flood figured out how to do that. His last three seasons on the banks his best finish was 4th place in the crappy old Big East.
Why do you remember him being as a guy which after more than a decade on the job could only deliver a crappy 4th place in a conference much weaker than the BigTen? And why do you believe he will somehow do better and not be completely outmatched by better game day coaches like he was for 11 years in the old Big East?
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Loaded with rosters full of NFL talent & could never win a Conference championship. Mediocre coach.
 
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