Notice the extra "l' in this new poster's name, and the handful of posts he's had. Interesting that someone would want to create a close copy of my board name. And then, almost immediately, it becomes very uninteresting.
Rumblings (mega thread of speculation) .......
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If Hurley won't even take 6 years/2 mil and we are seriously considering guys like Williams, then hoops is a lost cause and we should have stuck with Eddie. I know Hobbs is into Hoops, but as I've said we got Monmouth, FD, and SH in the dance and guys won't even take 2 mil/6 years here. Men's basketball is a wart and embarrassment on the school. I said this early into this season. This search is an embarrassment. Should have kept Eddie and waited until we fixed facilities to try and make a move. This catch 22 is a lose lose as it looks like no one worth it will come here. Even for a boatload of $
Now you begin to see why I think the hail mary hire is acceptable. That is too much money for Hurley and it might not be enough? That's crazy. that's not a guy who really wants the job. That is double what he is scheduled to make in 2017-2018 (according to a 2015 story).
I wonder if Hurley was option 1 and 1 A for Hobbs, a Seton Hall guy.. and Hurley is taking advantage.. or maybe Hobbs is learning that Hurley's style might be too close to Rice's.. and that Barchi fired the last AD that allowed a "tough" coach to run wild.
The simplest explanation is usually the right one. It isn't barchi or rice or Hobbs. Its Hurley hr just doesn't want to be here. So F him for obviously misleading Hobbs.
Still think Williams is a bad hire. If its Williams then we should have kept Eddie. Hoops is irrelevant either way.
Bring in a Lonergren or Mosiello then OK.
NOWHERE has it said that Williams is a "serious" contender other than paranoid speculation here.
There are other candidates with HCing experience that could be offered.
Williams is a panic move.
Heck , get an assistant from a major program that a winner before bringing in someone with no coaching experience at all.
I can't believe anyone would consider RU should hire Williams before looking at the assistant ranks first.
Williams is a panic move.
Heck , get an assistant from a major program that a winner before bringing in someone with no coaching experience at all.
I can't believe anyone would consider RU should hire Williams before looking at the assistant ranks first.
Here's what I'm wondering, Madhat: How much of any of this is true? Do we know that Hurley is doing anything other than offering Rhody a chance to counter offer out of courtesy? Do we know if it is simply the case that negotiations are taking more than one day? Do we know if Lonergan is off the table? If Sendek isn't an option at all? If Masiello or others might be in the mix? If Dawkins or Ford might be possibilities? If Hobbs is looking at the assistant from Michigan (or is it Michigan State)? If Williams is a serious candidate or whether the interview was more of a courtesy to an NJ HS legend who has incredibly high visibility?
One thing for certain, once this has been decided, we still won't know!
Over 100 for sure..to be honest its the Jay Williams news that made me freak out so much
Hard to believe they would make that hire. I could def see him as an assistant though. A high level one would be OK with me as well. But there is just too much detail to know to jump in as HC. I think that was EJ's major problem; he just didn't appreciate the intensity and commitment needed to turn the program around. I think he was more comfortable massaging egos than training young kids with talent who needed to learn how to be complete players.
Ah, no.
No chance Hobbs hires a coach without experience as HC or is at least top assistant at at top tier program.
JW does not fit criteria...
Glad it sounds like no Hurley (though I disagree, still think Hurley is in the picture).
Couldn't disagree more about Williams coming..don't even think he's in consideration yet.
No. What happens with us is, we pass on Williams. Then someone like BC takes a chance on him, and he ends up being the next Coach K.
Dude just stop posting. You sound like a clown.
Every post the last month from you has been fire Eddie and now you're proposing that we should have kept Jordan if this was going to be an issue, because everyone knew that it was an issue. You realize that makes zero sense considering you were the biggest proponent to firing Jordan.
$2 million is plenty for Hurley and if he doesn't want to commit so be it. He's not a guaranteed slam dunk hire and if he rejects then we find someone else.
Hurley playing us like a fiddle 2x. Move on.
We shall see who gets hired but when you may not get any of your top two its a big dropoff after that
I'd like to congratulate BAC, the NJ press, and Kenny Smith, for making it sound as if Jayson Williams is a priority candidate. Well done.
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So...
If Hurley rejects $2 mil for 6 years (which is plenty for that guy considering he was just coaching highschool 5 years ago and hasn't done anything earth shattering in the college scene to date) and Lonergan just has no interest in leaving GW...
We should have kept Jordan. Even though you spent the last month of your life crying that he needed to fired.
And it would all be Barchi's fault.
I think you should step away from the keyboard for the next few days and let this play out.
IUMassdon't think RU loses anything by providing a complete and more than competitive offer. Hurley still isn't the best or most qualified option if RU met the demands for facilities that aren't realistic. If Hurley secures additional money from URI by interviewing then that's fine as well.
What ultimately happens when you overplay your hand is what we are seeing here. If facilities were THAT critical then you shouldn't interview for the gig. You don't need facilities to teach defense, etc...a lot of it is really just excuses for the coach not having 100% confidence in his ability to work and win. I don't think facilities or admission of anyone as a recruit is going to save you from trying to devise a game plan to compete against the coaches in the B1G.
There are legitimate hurdles that require a lot of confidence and a plan to win at RU. But that's the same at PSU, NW and elsewhere in this league....you don't get layups against the Fordham, UMass types. So as much as we want to be honest, if you are, the game is basketball, it's still a game that countless other programs develop without the excuse of facilities.
So we move on to the next candidates who understand that there isn't an expectation that you win immediately or make the NCAA in Year 2 or 3. Very confident that RU comes out way ahead with what we are offering and B1G money in our future.
What ultimately happens when you overplay your hand is what we are seeing here. If facilities were THAT critical then you shouldn't interview for the gig. You don't need facilities to teach defense, etc...a lot of it is really just excuses for the coach not having 100% confidence in his ability to work and win. I don't think facilities or admission of anyone as a recruit is going to save you from trying to devise a game plan to compete against the coaches in the B1G.
There are legitimate hurdles that require a lot of confidence and a plan to win at RU. But that's the same at PSU, NW and elsewhere in this league....you don't get layups against the Fordham, UMass types. So as much as we want to be honest, if you are, the game is basketball, it's still a game that countless other programs develop without the excuse of facilities.
So we move on to the next candidates who understand that there isn't an expectation that you win immediately or make the NCAA in Year 2 or 3. Very confident that RU comes out way ahead with what we are offering and B1G money in our future.
Thanks, Hawk. You thinking that Hurley as a possibility is done for now? Are there attractive possibilities available/possible?
We did this dance with Danny before and it did not end well. Time to move on given his reservations. I would check back in with Lonergan and resolve his potential candidacy next. Too bad it appear Sendek wants no part of Rutgers or perhaps moving east. I like cluess over Dooley and need to read up on the Stoney brook guy.
Hurley is probably trying to get more money from RI to stay there now that he knows how much we are offering. It's all a ploy....lol
Skillethead2 said somewhat of the same thing. Sounds to me like Hurley is making excuses to not come here and/or he is not confident in his abilities to get the rebuild done. As you said, RUs expectations are moderate for the first few years. As I said in an earlier post, it is time for Hurley to step up onto the B1G stage or step off. And if he steps off, IMO, we will be better off without him if he didn't have the confidence to get it done here.
I think what he means is as throwing your arms in the air giving up. I'll say the same think sarcastically.... if you hire JW you might as well have kept EJ.
The only difference is that Jordan is a known disaster and Williams is a very probable disaster. Both disasters nonetheless.